December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: The future will be easy to use (fwd)
by Rev. Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Patiwat Panurach wrote: > I feel sad when they say that the market for <1000 $ machines is nill, I > had so much fun and learned so much from my old machines. Personally, I just bought a 486/66 laptop, which would have cost almost $1000 with 170 MB hard disk, 4 MB of RAM and Linux (I paid a couple of hundred extra for a 500 MB disk)... I could have got a Pentium desktop for the same price if I'd wanted one. So I don't see that there's really a great advantage to a $ 500 diskless computer (and having worked on Sun 3/50s in the past, I know about all the disadvantages). ObCrypto/Security: My landlord bought himself a computer a couple of weeks ago after he'd lived without them for over forty years, and has been enthusing about how easy it makes it for him to do his accounts. He just read about these diskless machines in a magazine, and his first reaction was that there was no way he'd keep his accounts information on a remote server. Obviously people *are* more privacy-aware than they're often given credit for. Mark

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ecash casino
by sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Any enterprising cypherpunks in gambling-friendly jurisdictions interested? I figure it would make ecash take off.. and you'd get rich. -- sameer Voice: 510-601-9777 Community ConneXion FAX: 510-601-9734 The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 http://www.c2.org/ (or login as "guest") sameer(a)c2.org

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Re: Elliptic curves, patent status?
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:16 PM 11/28/95 -0400, Michael Smith wrote: > > > I'm unclear about the patent status of elliptic curve > > > systems. Are they covered by the Diffie-Hellman patent? > > > That is, is the lnguage of this patent broad enough to > > > cover _all_ public-key systems, regardless of their > > > mathematical basis? On Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:16:10 -0800 jamesd(a)echeque.com wrote: > > No, but RSA will litigate you with the objective of > > inflicting extravagant legal costs regardless. At 08:13 AM 11/29/95 EST, Dan Bailey wrote: > Does the patent create any headaches for elliptic curve research or > publishing elliptic curve papers, or just for new products? Patents do not prohibit research -- Yet. Patent law continues to be extravagantly re interpreted from time to time, in a way that continually increases the power of the patent office and the power of the courts, but this creativity has not yet collided drastically with freedom of speech. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: The future will be easy to use
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>James A. Donald writes >> Specs, anyone? > > I suggest a few requirements: > > Store the >keys, and information about the keys in a *real* database > ... At 09:31 AM 11/29/95 -0500, Jack P. Starrantino wrote: > Is this worth the complexity/cost? I'd have thought that the amount of > data involved would be small enough that index hashing would be > overkill, and I can't think of any operations that would require a full > up db engine. I think you envisage communicating with a few other revolutionaries, drug trafficers, etc, whereas I envisage a future where every man is his own bank and his own credit rating agency. More immediately, any extension to the web of trust to enable it to function for anything more interesting and important than logical-to-physical identity (and who gives a tinkers damn about logical-to-physical identity) will require a real database, or will be painful without a real database. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: The future will be easy to use
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:20 AM 11/30/95 -0500, amp wrote: >unfortunately, it appears to me that if you _really_ want encryption >to be universal, it's gotta be done on windoze, it's gotta be >point-n-click and seamless to the mail application. Which, at present, means it's gotta be done on Pegasus. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: (cpx) Re:(fwd) Like FV with Crypto ... 'Cept Different ...
by Andrew Barrett/CheckFree Corporation 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky writes (quoting propaganda forwarded to Punks by Robert): >> WebTrader can be used as a stand-alone Internet application or in >>conjunction with SBT's Pro Series 3.0i accounting software. WebTrader has a >>suggested retail price of $1,295. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >They can't be serious. Why would you want to pay $1,300 for a payment >system, when you can get an Ecash merchant account for a fraction of what >Checkfree is charging? Not all merchants wishing to transact on the Web are as knowledgeable or sophisticated as the Punks on the different options. The offering includes a Web presence and payment processing, hassle free. No energy expenditure required. No need to develop an instant competency in electronic commerce. If a prospective web merchant has neither in place, I imagine the cost might be attractive. I also imagine that, like any other business in the world, SBT charges what they think the market will bear. Please note that CheckFree did not price the offering - they do the CC processing for SBT at some agreed upon cost to SBT. SBT sets the price for the offering in order to recover that cost, as well as their own, and establish some sort of margin. And by the way, I had nothing to do with project, so I beg you not to direct flames thisaway, should any decide flames are called for. Hey man, I just work here.... :) AJ.

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NRL IPsec/IPv6 code
by Perry E. Metzger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An early version of NRL's 4.4BSDlite based IPsec/IPv6 implementation is up on ftp.c2.org in an appropriately export controlled directory. This isn't an official distribution -- I'm just putting up the code I got because there has been some interest in it. I've been hacking it in to NetBSD of late. Perry

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Re: Who has the right to read your e-mail? Old hash, but I need to ask.
by John A. Limpert 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:58 AM 11/28/95 -0600, (Bill) wrote: >Who has the right to read your personal e-mail. >E-mail created at work? >E-mail downdloaded at work? >E-mail stored on a PC at work? The December 1995 issue of Communications of the ACM (CACM) has several articles on e-mail privacy. Managing User Perceptions of Email Privacy Suzanne P. Weisband and Bruce A. Reinig The Ethical and Legal Quandary of Email Privacy Janice C. Sipior and Burke T. Ward -- John A. Limpert johnl(a)Radix.Net

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Medical Records
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's something that may make attempts such as Clipper a bit harder to mandate, if this (non-escrowed, I believe) system becomes common. It should also provide some pressure for relaxation of ITAR. -Allen (c) 1995 Copyright Nando.net (c) 1995 Reuter Information Service [...] A security system developed at the University of California at San Francisco prevents unauthorized access to x-rays and other medical images transmitted via computer networks. A scientist described the system in a report prepared for a radiologists' convention here. [...] Stephen Wong, assistant professor of radiology and bioengineering, and colleagues developed the system for the picture archiving and communications system used at the university to store and transmit digitized medical images. He said the authenticity of the images as well as patient confidentiality must be protected. "We have to make sure that the digital information and images are not altered accidentally or surreptitiously," Wong said. "In addition, x-rays and other imaging studies are part of the patient's medical record and must be protected from unauthorized access." The system uses mathematical formulas or codes to scramble the images through encryption. It involves a "two-key" system -- one code enables public access but a second, private code is required to unscramble the information. The private code, known only to the individual to whom the information is transmitted, is 1,024 computer bits long, Wong said. In emergencies where fast transmission is needed, the unscrambled image is transmitted with a digital "fingerprint," a smaller code that assures the intended viewer that no one has altered the original image. Wong prepared his report for the annual meeting of the Radiological Society of North America.

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Harbinger (sp?) system
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry if this question has been asked and I missed it, but does anyone know how their system works? Thanks, -Allen (c) 1995 Copyright Nando.net (c) 1995 Cox News Service ATLANTA (Nov 29, 1995 - 09:44 EST) -- Harbinger Corp. has announced new software aimed at making the Internet safe for commerce, a move that could dramatically reshape the small company. [...] TrustedLink, the product announced Tuesday but not available until next year, will let firms connect via the Net as well as through Harbinger networks, he said.

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