December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Are booby-trapped computers legal?
by michaelb＠primenet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:43 PM 9/5/95 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: <snip> >>As far as I know the owner of property has no legal right to kill a person >>either traspassing or stealing it in any of the 50 states. There was a >>recent federal ruling that basicly says that if you meet a burglar in your >>home at nite you can not kill or otherwise harm them unless you're life is >>directly threatened. In short, you MUST give up the ground if at all >>possible. Federal and all 50 states (as far as I have been able to >>determine) rule human life to have a inherantly higher value than property >>of any type (this does not apply to government institutions). > <snip> The laws regarding the use of deadly force against an unarmed burglar in one's home vary from state to state. In Massachusetts, for example, a homeowner has a DUTY to retreat from his own home before employing deadly force against an intruder. In Arizona, however, we prefer a much different approach. 13-411. Justification; use of force in crime prevention A. A person is justified in threatening or using both physical force and deadly physical force against another if an to the extent the person reasonably believes that physical force or deadly physical force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's commission of ... burglary in the second or first degree under section 13-1507 ... 13-1507. Burglary in the second degree; classification A. A person commits burglary in the second degree by entering or remaining unlawfully in or on a residential structure with the intent to commit any theft or any felony therein. michaelb(a)primenet.com

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Re: Growth of actions definded as crime. Which math formula?
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:00 9/6/95, Black Unicorn wrote: >> If they guy would have gotten away before the new law was passed, it is a >> new crime. > >This is very rare. It's mostly in definitional cases, for example, where >Extacy was just not defined as a controlled substance some years ago. > >Created crimes are few and far between. Excurse my ignorance, but it just begs the question. Why then all the new laws? Just to twist the penalty screw another turn? Confused, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: List Subscriptions / Re: Prior Restraint on Publishers (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 01:22:48 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: List Subscriptions / Re: Prior Restraint on Publishers > I've been sending nearly all of my posts to either the algebra.com or the > cyberpass.net addresses, and the toad.com address is set to expire, or so > John told us when he gave us a deadline for finding another site. I've > mentioned this a couple of times, and yet some of you seem to think the > toad.com address is the preferred, fastest one. > > Would some of the operators of the distributed lists comment on the time > delays, on the topology of the interlinked distributed list, and on what > role, if any, toad.com continues to play in the process? Igor, Lance, Jim, > John? Not shure exactly how to answer this as I don't really measure it but I will pass along my experience and describe the network on this end... einstein.ssz.com is a 486DX2 80 linked via ISDN to a FDDI/T3/T1 backed up'ed link to the major SprintNet and MCI backbone here in Austin, Tx. Our typical physical latency is about 30mS taken from the average of a continous ping that I use as a baseline. When Majordomo receives a submission it then immediately resends it. Assuming the pipe ain't clogged and I run about 15% use with an all time max of about 90%. Usualy, taken from listening to the hard drive chatter, the resend latency is about 30s to 5m when the pipe gets heavily used. Typical peak usage is very sporadic and never lasts more than 5 minutes or so. There are two other small networks dialed in 28.8 that are the major driver of the intermittent loads. One is a commercial video business and the other is a local Amiga/NT/Mac/Linux BBS (Phantoms Mansion, oldest surviving bbs in Austin, in existance since '82. I started in '83). Our current expansion plans are to take the main pipe to a T1 sometime toward the end of next month. We will then upgrade the dial-ins to ISDN and adding a intermittent ISDN dial-in along with 2 28.8 dial-ins. The two dedicated dial-ins will also be expanding to ISDN and I am adding another dedicated ISDN customer network as well. SSZ has been on ISDN since Oct. of '92 and in that time we have been down for more than hours on two occassions. The first was on Mar. 20, 1995 when one of my lodgers managed to burn the house down. The second was around last New Year when I moved and SWBT couldn't move the ISDN for 21 days. We used a 28.8 during that time and physical latency was about 150mS or so. The current move scheduled for about 3 weeks away is expected to be accomplished in less than an hour so hopefuly nobody will even notice... I currently only echo messages to algebra.com because their the only ones who've asked. We currently are subscribed to toad.com and algebra.com. We have an open subscription policy meaning all it takes is an inquiry... Currently the only reason there would be a significant delay is that we on occassion have majordomo barf on itself and erase the subscribers list. But we have a backup and it only takes a cp to get it back up, this process is not automated - hence the delay. Considering the old versions of Linux and Majordomo (nearly 4 years old) this is remarkable to me since it is the only major glitch in the software. We are expecting to upgrade einstein to a Pentium box with much newer software during next month as well. Our policy on submissions to the list is one of complete hands-off except for checking for duplicates and loops. Other boxes that are intermittently available through SSZ and drive our load are: newton.ssz.com Pentium running Linux and is the router for our Elgin, Tx. expansion site expected to come online before the new year permanently. hawking.ssz.com Being built for the Lockheart, Tx. expansion slated for next summer. godzilla.ssz.com Sun Sparc ELC running Solaris 2.5 intended as a IRC server and should be permanently online toward the end of next month. kingkong.ssz.com Tadpole 3XP laptop running Solaris 2.5 and is a personal workstation. smoke.ssz.com Amiga Video Toaster used as a personal graphics workstation, it also intermittently feeds real-time video. Named after 'Smoke Jaguar' the last great Aztec king before the Spaniards arrived. dustworks.ssz.com 486DX3 100 running Win95 used as a personal workstation. tesla.ssz.com Pentium II running Win95 used as a personal workstation. escher.ssz.com Pentium running Linux used to grab resume's off the web via spiders. Once a day but when it runs its load is about 80% and lasts for around 5 minutes with several minutes between bursts (intentional behaviour) and lasts for about an hour, scheduled for early AM. cthulhu.ssz.com Intended to support a data haven project being developed by the owner of the dh-l data haven mailing list. There you go, hope it helps better understand the SSZ site at least. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Participation requires more than just bitching! | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Forgery, bills, and the Four Horsemen (Articles and Comment)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <199509060432.VAA05003(a)jobe.shell.portal.com>, hfinney(a)shell.portal.com (Hal) wrote: >P.S. Without seeing the technical specs it is hard to describe in detail, >but generally Chaumian ecash allows fully anonymous coerced transfers. >The payee/coercer supplies the blinded coins and forces the payor to use >them to make withdrawals from his account. The resulting signed >tokens are passed to the coercer who unblinds them and now has fully >anonymous, untraceable cash tokens which he can spend. Assuming it can be done (I am checking), he would also have a large balance on his non-anoymous Ecash account that he would have a very hard time explaining to the IRS, FINsomething [sorry, forgot the name], and other interested and certainly to be involved parties. Cyberspace is much closer connected to the real world as many people on this list, myself included, would like to think it is. - -- - -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBME1B1SoZzwIn1bdtAQF7FwGAgqmPsLaol1LbR2zb+FI7nmYDlp7BY91G SsT6iJukYmiKzcmG4YNPtGJ8QCrUGkZo =CNiP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Scientology and police visit XS4ALL Amsterdam
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <9509060434.AA09596(a)anon.penet.fi>, an253398(a)anon.penet.fi (Mole Rat) wrote: > This is the second or third time I've seen descriptions of such > raids where cult (no, I'm not trying to be diplomatic) > representatives were present and participating. Is this legal in > Amsterdam? How about in the U.S.? Britain? > > If a police officer has a warrant then I really don't have much > choice about letting him in. Am I also under an obligation to > allow the people who filed for the warrant into my home or > business? I doubt it. Get a good attorney. - -- - -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBME1CaSoZzwIn1bdtAQGGyAF7BojcAMnxvfMcyJSWLHlJe0d0QezwdVGZ paDopX2LMcxjuUgupNXgF1GwRPbvx2dl =Dstl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail. For more information, see: http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html For the PGP public keys of the remailers, finger pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{'cyber'} = '<alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord ?"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{"jam"} = "<remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek"; $remailer{"winsock"} = "<winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub reord ?"; $remailer{'nym'} = '<config(a)nym.alias.net> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"squirrel"} = "<mix(a)squirrel.owl.de> cpunk mix pgp pgponly hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{'weasel'} = '<config(a)weasel.owl.de> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"reno"} = "<middleman(a)cyberpass.net> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord ?"; $remailer{"cracker"} = "<remailer(a)anon.efga.org> cpunk mix remix pgp hash ksub esub latent cut ek reord post"; $remailer{'redneck'} = '<config(a)anon.efga.org> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"bureau42"} = "<remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org> cpunk mix pgp ksub hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"neva"} = "<remailer(a)neva.org> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub ?"; $remailer{"lcs"} = "<mix(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu> mix"; $remailer{"medusa"} = "<medusa(a)weasel.owl.de> mix middle" $remailer{"McCain"} = "<mccain(a)notatla.demon.co.uk> mix middle"; $remailer{"valdeez"} = "<valdeez(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"arrid"} = "<arrid(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"hera"} = "<goddesshera(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"htuttle"} = "<h_tuttle(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp hash latent cut post ek"; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. remailer(a)crynwr.com is _not_ a remailer. There is no remailer at relay.com. Groups of remailers sharing a machine or operator: (cyber mix reno winsock) (weasel squirrel medusa) (cracker redneck) (nym lcs) (valdeez arrid hera) The remailer list here has been out of date for some time, but should be up to date now. I'm still working on updating the web page. Last update: Mon 25 Aug 97 6:48:42 PDT remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- redneck config(a)anon.efga.org *#+**###*#+# 1:42 99.99% nym config(a)nym.alias.net +++###*+#+## 4:24 99.99% cracker remailer(a)anon.efga.org +++++-++++++ 20:07 99.97% weasel config(a)weasel.owl.de +--+--+--+++ 1:52:17 99.96% arrid arrid(a)juno.com +-++-++---- 2:57:11 99.90% hera goddesshera(a)juno.com ----------.- 8:59:19 99.89% winsock winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net --+-------+ 4:22:37 99.83% bureau42 remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org -----------+ 2:38:44 99.75% cyber alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net ++**+**+**++ 14:02 99.74% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com ++*++**++++ 20:35 99.67% replay remailer(a)replay.com + *** * +*** 6:51 99.18% valdeez valdeez(a)juno.com +---------- 9:25:25 99.06% squirrel mix(a)squirrel.owl.de ----------- 3:45:55 98.53% jam remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca ---** *+++++ 52:44 97.92% neva remailer(a)neva.org ---****** +# 28:32 97.63% reno middleman(a)cyberpass.net ++--+ + +- 46:04 94.86% History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien

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Re: Scientology and police visit XS4ALL Amsterdam
by carolann＠censored.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anon.penet.fi succinctly scribed: > If a police officer has a warrant then I really don't have much > choice about letting him in. Am I also under an obligation to > allow the people who filed for the warrant into my home or > business? The aren't, but they do, and only a good civil rights lawyer can help you out of the resulting quagmire. It's done in a lot of civil cases, particularly where restraining orders are used. Love ALways, Carol Anne -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

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Re: SSLRef (SSLtelnet)
by an5877＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Verisign is a spin off of RSA. Verisign, Inc. (VERISIGN-DOM) 100 Marine Parkway, Suite 525 Redwood City, CA 94065 Domain Name: VERISIGN.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Taylor, Simon (ST192) simon(a)RSA.COM (415) 508-1151 Record last updated on 21-Jun-95. DEADBEAT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBFAgUBME0AO/FZTpBW/B35AQFdLAGAiV1RqNmLh5W+uuHeKsXX/819qK5WTq3Y TobFKWLxkTjkEwDs6Js7UB2PFRnt6gDk =HEHU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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I've got a Volvo (and I'm not afraid to use it!)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz 'The fight's over. There's no one left to fight' "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible to live without breaking laws." -- Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged" On June 4, 1997 the trial of the only Viper Militia defendant to face a jury -- after months in jail, 10 have pleaded guilty to one charge or another, while one still awaits trial -- got underway before Judge Earl H. Carroll in the federal district courthouse in downtown Phoenix. ... Defense attorney Ivan Abrams objected to the government's hauling machine guns belonging to other Vipers into the courtroom, since Knight was not charged with owning any such weapons. Objection overruled. I told Knight I'd heard that some of the "unregistered machine guns" presented by the prosecution had actually been built by the government out of spare parts found at the homes of the various militia members. "This is the way the law reads: If they can take parts and with eight hours of professional work by professional gunsmiths working full time in Washington, D.C., make it fire more than one round, then it was a machine gun. There was a guy who published a magazine piece on this a couple of years ago, a guy who took a wrecked Volvo and in about seven hours made a weapon that would fire four or five rounds. So by the legal definition used in this case the Volvo was, technically, a machine gun. We're talking about professional gunsmiths, with access to sophisticated machine shops."

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Re: e$: More fun with cash: Senate Bill 307
by Davidwfox＠eworld.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----------------------------- Begin Original Text ----------------------------- Has anyone heard about this bill? Comments? Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------------------- End Original Text ----------------------------- There was an investigative article in a recent Readers Digest (no I'm not a regular reader, heard it through Radio for the Print Handicapped in Australia) regarding a major counterfieting operation that uses same printing presses as used by US Treasury. The proceeds amount to BIG numbers and are used to fund various terrorist organizations. regards David Fox The e-commerce directory www.kweb.com

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