December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Timothy C. May: Re: Crisis Overload (re Electronic Racketeering)
by lmccarth＠cs.umass.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim's original transmission of the following message didn't make it out to the (briefly annulled) list. I've already replied to Tim in private, but I'll offer my apologies if I've misled anyone as to whose mail originally went where. -Futplex Forwarded message: > From tcmay(a)sensemedia.net Fri Jul 14 02:01:08 1995 > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 23:03:50 -0700 > X-Sender: tcmay(a)mail.sensemedia.net > Message-Id: <ac2b562c03021004310a(a)[205.199.118.202]> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > To: futplex(a)pseudonym.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com > From: tcmay(a)sensemedia.net (Timothy C. May) > Subject: Re: Timothy C. May: Re: Crisis Overload (re Electronic Racketeering) > > At 2:57 AM 7/14/95, L. McCarthy wrote: > >> Perry, > >> > >> I have all I'm going to take of your acerbic rudeness to me. > >> > >> I will no longer be responding to any of your messages. > >> > >> --Tim > > > ><sigh> > > > >Everybody needs to take a deep breath and count to 1,000. Seriously, > >we're all feeling plenty of stress today. Various people have been > >talking about getting out of the U.S. while the going's good (?), and > >it doesn't sound much like hyperbole this time. It's not surprising that > >we're releasing our frustration on each other, lashing out at the nearest > >quasi-tangible targets. > > Note that I didn't post that to the list. > > Your requoting it, without the intermediate quoting of the person who _did_ > post it to the list, makes it appear I was spewing this garbage to the > list, when I wasn't. > > I don't care for your pop psychology. I would've followed your advice and > left these comments in e-mail only, had you done the same. > > --Tim May > > .......................................................................... > Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, > tcmay(a)sensemedia.net | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero > 408-728-0152 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, > Corralitos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. > Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. > "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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IEEE P1363 (public key crypto) standards meeting after Crypto
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Even if you aren't going to Crypto, there are draft standards documents, etc, FTP-able. See below. I haven't read them yet. John Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:56:18 PDT From: Burt Kaliski <burt(a)rsa.com> To: pem-dev(a)TIS.COM Subject: Meeting announcement IEEE P1363: Standard for RSA, Diffie-Hellman and Related Public-Key Cryptography MEETING NOTICE Thursday, August 31, 1995, 1:00-6:00pm Friday, September 1, 1995, 9:00-6:00pm University of California, Santa Barbara, CA This meeting of the P1363 working group, open to the public, will focus on the editing of a draft standard for RSA, Diffie-Hellman and other public-key cryptography. The meeting follows the CRYPTO '95 conference, held August 27-31 at the same location. AGENDA 1. Approval of Agenda 2. Approval of Minutes from May Meeting 3. Officers' Reports 4. Update on Patent Issues 5. Proposals for New Sections 6. Meeting Schedule 7. Editorial Work (schedule to be determined based on availability of draft material) 8. New Work Assignments Depending on the amount of editorial work, the meeting may end sooner than 6:00pm Friday. If you'd like to participate, contact Burt Kaliski, the working group's chair, at RSA Laboratories, 100 Marine Parkway, Redwood City, CA 94065. Phone: (415) 595-7703, FAX: (415) 595-4126, E-mail: burt(a)rsa.com. Draft sections and copies of previous minutes are available via anonymous ftp to ftp.rsa.com in the "pub/p1363" directory. The working group's electronic mailing list is <p1363(a)rsa.com>; to join, send e-mail to <p1363-request(a)rsa.com>. There will be a meeting fee, though the amount has not yet been established, pending arrangements with the university. It will also be possible for participants to arrange accommodations at the university. DIRECTIONS (excerpted from the CRYPTO announcement) The campus is located approxmately two miles from the Santa Barbara airport, which is served by several airlines, including American, America West, United and US Air. All major rental car agencies are also represented in Santa Barbara, and AMTRAK has rail connections to San Francisco from the north and Los Angeles from the south. Santa Barbara is approximately 100 miles north of the Los Angeles airport, and 350 miles south of San Francisco. For more information on the CRYPTO '95 conference, contact Stafford Tavares, the general chair, at (613) 545-2945 or <tavares(a)ee.queensu.ca>.

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Re: Free The World Web Server project.. :)
by Donald M. Kitchen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hooking up a mass mailer to congress seems like a bad idea to me, because they're really only interested in their constituants. If they start getting mass mailings, they might start thinking there's only one person or a small group of people "behind the curtain". Sending results of an e-petition, however, would be unobtrusive. A web page that mails a form letter to _your_ congressperson's form-letter-readers (ie staff readers) would be much better, IMHO. Don

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Re: ping
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 19:13 7/14/95, cjl wrote: >Cypherpunks, > >It was my intention to write a little summary of the story in the most >recent issue of SCIENCE Can you scan it in? -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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MYS_fit
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

7-14-95. NYPaper Page Oner: "2 Groups of Physicists Produce Matter That Einstein Postulated." By chilling a cloud of atoms to a temperature barely above absolute zero, scientists at a Colorado laboratory have at last created a bizarre type of matter that had eluded experimenters ever since its potential existence was postulated by Albert Einstein 70 years ago. The creation of this Bose-Einstein condensate -- named for Einstein, and the Indian theorist Satyendra Nath Bose -- was hailed yesterday as the basis of a new field of research expected to explain some fundamental mysteries of atomic physics. A Texas group later produced similar results. The achievement should allow physicists to peer directly into the realm of the ultrasmall. MYS_fit [This was also reported in The Economist of July 1.]

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SEK_hel
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

7-14-95. NYPaper: "U.S. Spells Out Antitrust Inquiry Into Microsoft." The Justice Department said today that the Microsoft Corporation might well be violating antitrust laws by including software for its new on-line network in Windows 95, its much-anticipated operating system for personal computers. JUS_kid "Sting on Internet Leads to a Child Sex Case." In a case involving child pornography, the Internet and a self-appointed enforcer whom one critical defense lawyer calls an "electronic vigilante," a Nevada man is facing prison for crossing state lines with the intention of having sex with a 14 year-old girl he had met on a popular computer network. SHE_dev [Editorial] "The Guns of Waco and Ruby Ridge." There is little doubt that the Federal Government contributed heavily to two of the biggest law enforcement fiascoes in recent memory. One was the disastrous 1993 Federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound at Waco, Tex. The other was the tragic 1992 encounter between the F.B.I. and a band of white separatists at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. LIT_bub 3: SEK_hel

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S. 982 Kyl-Leahy(-Grassley) NII Protection Act
by Brian A. LaMacchia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

S. 982 is "the other bill" introduced recently in the Senate, the National Information Infrastructure Protection Act of 1995 (introduced by Sens. Kyl, Leahy and Grassley). Since it has bipartisan support plus the support of the Attorney General I thought it might be a good idea to see what it really does. I've made available via WWW the following documents: The text of S. 982: The National Information Infrastructure Protection Act of 1995; The text of 18 USC 1030 as it is currently; The text of 18 USC 1030 as modified by S. 982; Sen. Kyl's statement introducing S. 982; Sen. Leahy's statement introducing S. 982; A section-by-section analysis of S. 982 provided by Sens. Kyl and Leahy; All are available from my "Legal Issues" page at: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/legal/ The "text of 18 USC 1030 as modified by S. 982" is perhaps the most interesting, since it shows both text removed by the bill (in italics) and text added by the bill (in boldface). --bal

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Ssh and Macintosh applications.
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Having looked over the Ssh blurbs, I can't help but want to use it. NOW. Is anyone more skillful than I going to try and port some sort of support for those of us who are using a Mac with, say, a direct connection to a provider using Ssh? Please?

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Re: Anti-Electronic Racketeering Act of 1995 (fwd)
by Allen Robinson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm posting this again, not because I think it contains any particularly profound insights, but rather because I initially sent it around midnight last night and it was not reflected here so I suppose it did not make it out. AR ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 00:12:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Allen Robinson <sebaygo(a)intellinet.com> To: Ray Arachelian <sunder(a)escape.com> Cc: Cypherpunks Mailing List <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> Subject: Re: Anti-Electronic Racketeering Act of 1995 (fwd) On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Ray Arachelian wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, L. McCarthy wrote: > > > Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, I rise this evening to introduce the > > Anti-electronic Racketeering Act of 1995. This bill makes important changes > > to RICO and criminalizes deliberately using computer technology to engage in > > criminal activity. I believe this bill is a reasonable, measured and strong > > response to a growing problem. According to the computer emergency and > > response team at Carnegie-Mellon University, during 1994, about 40,000 > > computer users were attacked. Virus hacker, the FBI's national computer > > crime squad has investigated over 200 cases since 1991. So, computer crime is > > clearly on the rise. > > Eh, what do "virus hackers" have to do with encryption, why is it these > morons justify the destruction of encryption by mentioning hackers and > viruses? The use of terms such as "virus" and "hacker" in a context such as this has little or nothing to do with what the terms actually mean. It's palpably obvious that they are being bandied about here solely for the knee-jerk emotional reactions they evoke. Even those more computer/net clue-impaired than Grassley (assuming that such is possible) know from watching TV and the movies that a virus is a Bad Thing (tm) and that hackers are evil! Pseudo-digital demagoguery. > Additionally, does this mean that someone outside of the USA is in danger > of being grabbed by RICO armed thugs from Uncle Sam's cadre for writing > crypto software and publishing it in the open? After all, once it winds > up on some USA site, how do we know that someone outside the USA got his > copy of SuperDuperNSASpookFree from a non-US site? Just to be sure, > we'll bust both the site operator and nab the guy who wrote it next time > he drops in, or hell, we'll have him extradited. Or simply kidnap him and escort him back to the U.S. <snip> > > I believe we need to seriously reconsider > > the Federal Criminal Code with an eye toward modernizing existing statutes > > and creating new ones. In other words, Mr. President, Elliot Ness needs to > > meet the Internet. > > Where is Elliot Ness? I don't see any mafia.org on the net. Anyone here > see any such site? It might be even more beneficial if Senator Grassley and the other members of our august deliberative bodies would meet the internet. My gut reaction to the recent tide of legislation is that they are seeking to stangle what they fear and that they fear what they do not understand. (Too melodramatic?) > > Mr. President, I sit on the Board of the Office of Technology Assessment. > > That Office has clearly indicated that organized crime has entered cyberspace > > in a big way. International drug cartels use computers to launder drug money > > and terrorists like the Oklahoma City bombers use computers to conspire to > > commit crimes. > > Was it not proven that McVeigh and Co. >DID NOT< use a computer? THe AOL > account was a hoax, no? Where are the hoardes of anti-USA terrorists, > and drug pushers on the net? You don't recognize them because they are masquerading as "virus hackers". Again, the main reason for playing the "terrorist" card is for the emotional hot-buttons they can push by so doing. Since Grassley didn't use it, look for someone to introduce something this session titled, "The Avenge Those Poor, Innocent, Bloody Dead Children Act of 1995". AR %#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#%=%#% "Government is not reason... it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Allen Robinson...................................sebaygo(a)intellinet.com PGP public key AD022AA9 fingerprint 5A3BC05B2EC67724 F5664A20AEEAB07A

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Re: ADMIN: List wipeout and recovery
by tcmay＠sensemedia.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:12 AM 7/15/95, Hugh Daniel wrote: >to fixit. Using two heads was better than one and we realized that we >had a online backup only 2 days old. Minutes later it was installed ^^^^^^^^^^^ >and the list is back to where it was late on 1995/07/11. I think your backup is a lot older than 2 days old, as a "who cypherpunks" request showed this as my list address: .... talon57(a)well.sf.ca.us tcmay(a)netcom.com (Timothy C. May) tentacle(a)hclb.demon.co.uk .... I haven't been subscribed as "tcmay(a)netcom.com" since mid-June. Since mid-June I've been subscribed as "tcmay(a)sensemedia.net". Why did I get this message at my sensemedia.net address if in fact "who cypherpunks" shows my subscription address is only at Netcom? Beats me. I checked and I am not subscribed under both addresses, and a grep of the "who cypherpunks" list doesn't show a sensemedia.net address for me. Maybe the "who cypherpunks" at 16:21 today is a different backup list than the supposedly 2-day old list.... Something for the X Files, perhaps. --Tim May .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)sensemedia.net | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-728-0152 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Corralitos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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