December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Press attack on anonymity.
by Dr. D.C. Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Forwarded message: - From dcwill(a)python.ee.unr.edu Tue Jan 3 11:52:23 1995 From: "Dr. D.C. Williams" <dcwill(a)python.ee.unr.edu> Message-Id: <199501031952.LAA04685(a)python.ee.unr.edu> Subject: Re: Press attack on anonymity. To: asgaard(a)sos.sll.se (Mats Bergstrom) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 11:52:15 -0800 (PST) Cc: dcwill(a)python.ee.unr.edu (Dr. D.C. Williams, P.E.) In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950103194933.7114A-100000(a)cor.sos.sll.se> from "Mats Bergstrom" at Jan 3, 95 08:05:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 842 Mats Bergstrom wrote: > Since Joe User doesn't really > care if he can connect anonymously or not, at least not yet, > they might very well succeed in making some aspects of anonymity > 'illegal'. But who cares, if anonymous agents can't be traced? Because then the last, unstoppable act of the State will be to clamp down on anonymous agents. See "How to Boil Live Frogs". You can't dump them into boiling water because they will jump out. Instead, start at a comfortable temperature and turn up the heat a little bit at a time. Eventually, the frogs become unable to escape and are lulled to their unconscious death. I equate "making some aspects 'illegal'" with increasing the water temperature. To paraphrase and oft-seen .sig from this list: "Seldom is freedom of any kind lost all at once." =D.C. Williams <dcwill(a)ee.unr.edu> - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLwm6/ioZzwIn1bdtAQGuRwGAobH2lCXDIHUCitG1mcI0RasjMOWjovT2 xUpa1Xta/mphm/s+2H21f7kuFvY6smcn =wclb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: SAN FRANCISCO EDITORIAL
by Erik Selberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> C'punks, > > Here is a guest editorial that ran in Monday's SF Chronicle. It > should make your blood boil. > > > S a n d y > > * * * > > ANARCHY, CHAOS ON THE INTERNET MUST END Yup, it's the same net-spamming Siegel, arguing for: End of mob rule, so she can advertise everywhere for free; End of anonymous encryption, so we can't send plans for the new stealth basselope to the commies (or I guess it's liberals, nowaways). End of anonymous mail, so she can tell back at all those who yell at her for spamming Terms of surrender for us academic types, who only exist to attack business people (and, if you're at CMU, check out the nudie pics) End of private providers yanking abuser's accounts basicly, a nice editorial which sugar-coats what she wants, which is the ability to send out what she wants, ensure that it gets to everyone she sends it to, and not worry about flames or getting the boot. What's scary is that it's very easy to slide this kind of stuff onto an ignorant and conservative legislature. Big leaders who want to do good see an obvious good side to removing the ability to post anonymously --- law enforcement can track people making drug transactions, and if someone broadcasts a nudie pick found to be obscene in TN, well hey, they can now haul his ass to TN for some jail time. It's going to take a lot of lobbying to ensure that this doesn't happen. work: (206) 543-7798 Erik Selberg play: (206) 517-3039 speed(a)cs.washington.edu I get by with a little help from my friends...

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16 years old hacker arrested ?
by sghahn＠math1.kaist.ac.kr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

According to AFP(London), The Independent reported on January 3, 1995 that a sixteen years old boy was arrested for breaking into the computer network of US Defense Department. The report also tells that the hacker posted documents about last year's nuclear crisis between North Korea and USA. Does anyone know where can I get a copy of that documents ?

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Re: LAW AND ETHICS ON THE "NETS"
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, Thanks to Marsha-W for telling us about the "Law and Ethics on the 'Nets'" project being organized at the John Marshall Law School. I'm signing up. I think ALL of us should, if you get my drift. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Siegel and Lewis
by jrochkin＠cs.oberlin.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:22 PM 01/03/95, Raph Levien wrote: > His piece that ran Saturday was badly mangled by the editorial >process, especially since it ran on page one. Those articles get to be >mangled by a whole new set of people who otherwise wouldn't get to >touch it. I think Lewis has basically good intentions, and does do his >homework before writing a story. Yeah, I encourage everyone to actually _finish_ reading that article before putting Lewis on your permanent hate list. I almost put it down in disgust, from the stuff on page 1, but if you turn to where the article is continued, it becomes quite a bit more balanced and less fear-mongering. In a rather disjointed sort of way, that makes it easy to beleive the article was mangled somewhat in editing. Perhaps they rearanged it to put the "sensational" fear-mongering stuff first. Which is unfortunate, and perhaps intentional, because most people probably won't make it to the end of the article, and if they do, will have been pre-biased by the initial paragraphs, especially if this is the first they've heard of the subject. But I don't have too much trouble believing that all blame belongs on the editors, and not Lewis. :)

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rarachel - no email
by Arsen Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey guys, It's me. Don't let the new account name, and the horrible name of this despicable machine throw you off. It's me, Ray Arachelian. Some rat(s?) hacked into photon, the machine where my home account lives, and now, while I can read my prism email by going through major acrobatic maneouvers, I have to use this slimy shitty student account. So for the time being, please direct any mail to this account aarach01(a)barney.poly.edu (God I hate this machine's name!) I'll still be able to read anything you send to prism for the time being (durring winter recess they said.) See, I have to log in to barney, ftp my mailbox over from prism, telnet to barney and delete my mailbox, and then read it with pine... :-( [Eileen, could you at least build a home directory for my old account with a .forward to Barney for now? Or just let me use prism without having to have photon connected to it?] Thanks, -- Ray (Arsen) Arachelian. [also known as rarachel(a)prism/photon.poly.edu, RayDude(a)aol.com, etc.]

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Re: Anonymous payment scheme
by pstemari＠erinet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:16 AM 1/3/95 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote: >Hmmm. What if you produced a pseudonym card *with* your picture on the >front? I smell a market opportunity. Or not... You'd need to promenently state on the front "not to be used for id" or some such. Otherwise you could potentially get nailed for issuing fraudulent identity documents. Too many places think that a MC/Visa is a form of id. --Paul J. Ste. Marie pstemari(a)well.sf.ca.us, pstemari(a)erinet.com

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Re: Press attack on anonymity.
by Lile Elam 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Or prehaps it is someone at HotWired... :) -lile

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Re: Exporting cryptographic materials, theory vs. practice
by Johnathan Corgan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >No reason to risk a hassle by exporting PGP from the US on your >laptop, it's everywhere. Just take your Secret Keyring file and >download PGP from a foreign FTP site once you are out of the US. Or you can do what someone mentioned to me he does when he travels abroad: He keeps PGP and his keyrings on a floppy, but then _deletes_ PGP.EXE. Of course, being a good PC user, he _always_ carries a copy of Norton Undelete with him :) Quite creative, IMHO, and technically legal. == Johnathan Corgan "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." jcorgan(a)scruznet.com -Isaac Asimov WWW: (for now) ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/jc/jcorgan/www/homepage.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLwoKl01Diok8GKihAQH00gP/VLWJaDaS7DNp+bv1BLszEQpOlNFyS22Y BL+Wv8Rs5efF2SG5t3E+6aHwSvaRigtjE1wwF3f46QY23ZnO1x+DTuEXy9gBRu+s usNniiyfcozfT90wPU79b/qhRrnM/Uzwxn8XddWNz0ONEk/QZqXLLx/4PdczwDaN L5XclEMG8n4= =Kzyl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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H.R.4922
by VAMAGUS＠delphi.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- If I am digging up old info please excuse me, I haven't been able to read the majority of mail due to the volume of, fluff, shall we say. For U.S. cypherpunks this is it: H.R. 4922 "Interception of Digital and Other Communications" passed as of October. This is the first *I* heard about it. In short the bill requires: " ...telecommunications carrier shall insure that it's equipment, facilities, or services are capable of (1) expeditiosly isolating and enabling the government, persuant to a court order or other authorization, to intercept, to the exclusion of all other communications, all wire and electronic communications carried by the carrier....etc. Time for me to generate more keys! More info available at: ftp.eff.org /pub/EFF/Policy/Digital_Telephony/digtel94.bill gopher.eff.org /1/EFF/Policy/Digital_Telephony/digtel94.bill http.eff.org /pub/EFF/Policy/Digital_Telephony/digtel94.bill ***************************Frenchie Sends******************************* * PGP Public Keys: 1024/BEB3ED71 & 2047/D9E1F2E9 on request. * * As soon as any man says of the affairs of the state * * "What does it matter to me?" the state may be given up for lost. * * J.J.Rousseau - The Social Contract * * PGP info: email to mail-server(a)rtfm.mit.edu with first line: * * send pub/usenet/alt.security.pgp/* * *****************************J. Francois******************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLwoD8LbmxeO+s+1xAQEuCgQAlI0vevAU7Gc1rkraQufpw+1NT9n2qSw5 DIoJvA0lS49ECiZeUOhwNql3cx6tPaOEeMeJIqkcv/PecX3wh3I2AzU2NGmNerOM Z2HPjdoz3xO8u0wDOJbZDRlzQafzbh0RShxAlCxPQE+qspWhmtydMvRl6KtvT1T+ s/kMO5VMkQY= =r8C+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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