December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Siegel and Lewis
by jrochkin＠cs.oberlin.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:22 PM 01/03/95, Raph Levien wrote: > His piece that ran Saturday was badly mangled by the editorial >process, especially since it ran on page one. Those articles get to be >mangled by a whole new set of people who otherwise wouldn't get to >touch it. I think Lewis has basically good intentions, and does do his >homework before writing a story. Yeah, I encourage everyone to actually _finish_ reading that article before putting Lewis on your permanent hate list. I almost put it down in disgust, from the stuff on page 1, but if you turn to where the article is continued, it becomes quite a bit more balanced and less fear-mongering. In a rather disjointed sort of way, that makes it easy to beleive the article was mangled somewhat in editing. Perhaps they rearanged it to put the "sensational" fear-mongering stuff first. Which is unfortunate, and perhaps intentional, because most people probably won't make it to the end of the article, and if they do, will have been pre-biased by the initial paragraphs, especially if this is the first they've heard of the subject. But I don't have too much trouble believing that all blame belongs on the editors, and not Lewis. :)

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Note to CyberPatrol's Susan Getgood (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:19:00 -0700 From: "James S. Tyre" <j.s.tyre(a)worldnet.att.net> To: SusanG(a)microsys.com Cc: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Note to Susan Getgood Dear Susan: I hadn't realized that you were still on f-c, but since you've popped up a few times today, I thought that I'd use this environmentally friendly way of speaking with you. I was quite intrigued when I got an envelope from Microsys a few days ago. And I was honored that you consider me to be a colleague -- you remember how you addressed the letter -- Dear Colleague. I am, of course, quite concerned about productivity in the workplace. Why, everyone on f-c who knows me will vouch for the fact that I never do anything which is not completely work-related during the business day. So while I have to confess that I was intrigued by the offer of your corporate product, there's just one small problem: using it would go against every moral and ethical bone in my body. Granted, most attorneys may not have many of 'dem bones, so if I change my mind, I'll keep your email address on file. In the meantime, however, you can save some postage costs and even a tree branch or two if you delete me from your junk snail mail list. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Very truly yours, -James S. Tyre

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Regulatory Risks
by wulkwa＠near.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think it's important to realize that organizations move on a slower time scale than people. The larger the organization, the longer the time scale. Thus, when looking at the government's response to anonymous transactions it would be wise to look at trends dating back to the '70s (if not earlier). Also, it's important to realize that such long-term activities are systemic in nature. Examples of government attacks on anonymous activities might include the war on drugs (especially the money laundering countermeasures). W.

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Re: Warning letter from Co$. [any comments ?]
by koontz＠MasPar.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Other than the obvious, that elctronic media hasn't been shown to be covered by intellectual property, and that something that has been placed in the public domain, rightly or wrongly isn't confidential ... Is this a hoax?

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Re: Siegel and Lewis
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Why is it that so many cypherpunks like the economist? I learned recently that Eric is a big fan. So am I. You're certainly not the first other cypherpunk to mention this. Weird. I mean, it's not exactly a radical publication... it just gets its *&#$*#$ facts right. Probably this is it. ................................................... I like it for its classy, stylish prose. And the fact that it presents an economic perspective on world events. .. Blanc

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The Good Times virus ...
by bshantz＠spry.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey folks, Remember the AOL Good Times virus? Well, we just got some mail here at SPRY warning us about it. I laughed rather hard. Anyway, I told the guy who sent the mail that I would send him a number of pieces of documentation about the fact its a hoax. There was a NASA newsletter a few months back about it. I deleted it, because I thought I'd never need it again. Does anyone know where I might get a copy of that or another press release about the Goot Times hoax? I'd appreciate any help. Thnax, Brad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>INTERNETWORKING THE DESKTOP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Brad Shantz bshantz(a)spry.com Senior Software Engineer SPRY Inc. Direct #: (206)-442-8251 Seattle, WA 98104 WWW URL: http://WWW.SPRY.COM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Public Key at: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html Or email: pgp-public-keys(a)pgp.ai.mit.edu Subj: GET bshantz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Re: Warning letter from Co$. [any comments ?]
by cactus＠seabsd.hks.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <199501042047.PAA06797(a)cutter.clas.ufl.edu>, Avi Harris Baumstein <avi(a)clas.ufl.edu> wrote: >i know there has been much chatter on this subject, but are there >truly any precedents that could hold on the anonymous distribution of >copyrighted material? are remailer-ops truly in legal danger? what >exactly constitutes a trade secret, and what sort of laws apply? This is oddly timely. The LaMacchia decision showed that providing a service for others to use for the distribution of copyrighted material (in his case, copyrighted software) was not prosecutable under Wire Fraud statutes. The judge told the Feds, "no dice. Stop trying to applying laws to areas where they weren't intended." Civil matters are another matter, of course, but that's one avenue that's closed. - - -- Todd Masco | "life without caution/ the only worth living / love for a man/ cactus(a)hks.net | love for a woman/ love for the facts/ protectless" - A Rich Cactus' Homepage - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLwrwjBNhgovrPB7dAQHIYAP6AtRFkIqOj+vRPxUPLdGaUK9t9/pZQi8g 6HyXHBjaEA9ygX8ALQEbS3AK1a1DsqWIsOxXVivszfEY+1lmS3w93VnICjigebbf YuHpFOOgyf8IkUBslov1V7Pw0/X/blMVspyc1nDigK3KsyMi7PalAw5ECECqkhkD AizVLOZNrO0= =yOiL - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLwsrTyoZzwIn1bdtAQH9xAF/dFkiStD+csfx4ATJ76WaxrfcLPEYej+p Ec55BXkOYH+96xGLHugficY5hRjtL5eL =LPEW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: who?
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

i'm sorry to hear the jpunix remailer is down for good-- why can't people learn to be more fuckin responsible! i guess this is just yet another inconvenience we can tank terrorists for and those aol-holes! anybody know the email address of the good samaritans? tia

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Re: The Good Times virus ...
by bshantz＠spry.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to the people who've sent me copies of the CIAC announcement. That should cover my needs for right now. Hopefully I can convince these people not to worry. -- brad

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Re: British Hacker Article
by pstemari＠erinet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:31 PM 1/4/95 -0500, Duncan Frissell wrote: >>From The Independent (London) Tuesday 3 January 1995 - Front Page > ... The US Defence Information >Systems Agency admitted in a private briefing, which has been confirmed, >that the hackers had affected the Department's "military readiness." "Admitted"? Probably "complained without substaniation" would be more accurate. > ... It is understood that >he invented a "sniffer" programme which searched across hundreds of >computers attached to the Internet for passwords and user names. ... If he was really behind the various password sniffers running on Netcom, etc, he has a lot of explaining to do. > ... "They contained information about >firing sites in North Korea and stuff like that. Field intelligence. He >kept detailed logs of communication traffic. ... The Korean files were on >the Girths Air Force Base computer system and therefore the could have been >accessed. ... Harumpf. Either the stuff wasn't classified, or else someone had a major security procedures breach and had classified material sitting on a computer with an uncrypted comm link. --Paul J. Ste. Marie pstemari(a)well.sf.ca.us, pstemari(a)erinet.com

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