December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Bug in PgP2.6???
by Ben.Goren＠asu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 4:06 PM 8/12/94, Derek Atkins wrote: >Gee, Claude, where have _you_ been hiding? Look at the date >on that message. > >As for using 2.6 -- I do. It's _only_ a factor in key generation, >and it doesn't weaken key generation enough to be a concern. > >Also, there is a planned bugfix release for sometime soon that >will have the one character patch that fixes that problem. Except that the fix has been a *long* time coming. Hasn't it been about a month since I complained about this? And there's still not even a simple readme on the distribution site. As I said before, if it's serious enough to shout to the world, "we goofed," then it's serious enough to take the ten seconds necessary to make the fix or make the instructions on how to do so obviously available. The EFF has sold us out, and this is making MIT look rather unprofessional. >-derek b& -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 Comment: My key is not 'escrowed' with any government agency. iQCVAgUBLkxYmkNl71nP8jvVAQFh4QP/dKmW/OV4nLHknfFVKgJJqgwV9mwjsZ9n myekwvvI8liZmcjSwAJDxTjk4V7xMMrRbE/2zC1fcl7bstgP+5SvbQ/c0jMlPJJ6 i81CXYcIY8WQ5stQmNN+9Qi0wU8E2KUiw96+LgH4P9kc6059aKQYOb26qF3bypQB g5G015QkOQo= =8ala -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu, Arizona State University School of Music net.proselytizing (write for info): We won! Clipper is dead! BUT! Just say no to key escrow. And stamp out spamming, too. Finger ben(a)tux.music.asu.edu for PGP 2.6 public key CFF23BD5.

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Will pay nexusbucks for reliability testing of remailers
by sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I will pay nexusbucks for reports on remailer reliability in terms of lossage. (I.e. 15 messages sent through remailer X on this day, 14 messages returned withint 3 days) Umm.. 16 NexusBucks per two weeks, for a remailer report every week, listing every remailer using the :: and Anon-To commands which support pgp. The listing should be in an easily-parseable format. Mail me if you are interested. -- sameer Voice: 510-841-2014 Network Administrator Pager: 510-321-1014 Community ConneXion: The NEXUS-Berkeley Dialin: 510-841-0909 http://www.c2.org (or login as "guest") sameer(a)c2.org

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Re: Secret sharing made short
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 14:06 1994/08/13 -0700, Hal wrote: .... Obvious only in retorspect. Elegant in any case. Solving that problem had been at the back of my mind for several weeks.

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Re: Tommy Tag Lines
by Ben Goren 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 14 Aug 1994, Tommy the Tourist wrote: > On Sun, 14 Aug 1994, Tommy the Tourist wrote: > > Soda's remailer has the IRRITATING feature of putting shit like > > bombing buildings, drugs, et al at the bottom of anon posts/mail. > > That is to intentionaly trip NSA programs what look for particular words > and weed out the amount of work actual agents have to sort through for > Internet intelegence work. > [. . .] > ----- > end transmission > FBI Iran Iraq Nuclear North Korea NSA Pakistan PGP PLO TNT Remember that note that Bruce Schneier sent some time ago about the software the NSA was willing to make available for a price? The NSA is more than capable enough to ignore NSA fodder, I would think. If you want to write something that'll get looked at by a human, you'll have to write the kind of thing that's likely to make you the target of an investigation: "Tim, the supplier screwed up--the .5 Kg Pu shipment ain't gonna happen. Though I guess you know that from reading the papers. I think I can find some from Sergei's friend, but he's getting worried that Mossad might be onto him. Found a sweed deal on 50 mg of *very* high grade U235. Too bad we can't use it with our detonator." Don't expect people to do that in numbers. Besides, what terrorist savvy enough to use the 'net is going to be ignorant of PGP? Or not be paranoid enough to find out about it? b& -- Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu, Arizona State University School of Music net.proselytizing (write for info): The battle is over; Clipper is dead. But the war against Government Access to Keys (GAK) goes on. Finger ben(a)tux.music.asu.edu for PGP 2.6 public key ID 0xCFF23BD5.

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Who killed the list?
by Andrew Brown 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What the heck has happened to the list? I haven't received a single message in about 4 days! Am I still subscribed? Has there been a software failure? Paranoid minds need to know. -Andy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Brown Internet <asb(a)nexor.co.uk> Telephone +44 115 952 0585 | | PGP 2.6ui fingerprint: EC 80 9C 96 54 63 CC 97 FF 7D C5 69 0B 55 23 63 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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The NEXUS-Berkeley announces low-cost internet access
by sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Community ConneXion announces low-cost internet access Community ConneXion: The NEXUS-Berkeley, an Internet Access Provider in Berkeley, California, announced the installation of a modem pool for general dialup usage today. Community ConneXion (c2, c^2, or c-squared) has been founded in order to build up a strong community in the internet both locally and globally. "We are linked into the worldwide NEXUS-Gaia movement which is building up a worldwide community of like-minded network-oriented individuals," said Sameer Parekh, the Network Administrator. Community ConneXion offers many different level of service, including shell accounts, simple mailboxes, world-wide-web server space, psuedo-anonymous privacy services, and domain name service with mail forwarding. The NEXUS-Berkeley is putting a large emphasis on user community involvement. "We want everyone involved to feel vital to the success of the project because they *are*," said Sameer. He emphasized the fact that not only are people vital for a clientele, but necessary for the establishment of a strong community. They are offering one free week of service to people who sign up. To connect call 510-549-1383 (if that is busy try 510-841-0909.. this number will be removed on August 20th but replaced with a larger modem pool on 549-1383) and login as "guest". If you already have internet access, information can be had by using your favorite World-Wide-Web browser to look at http://www.c2.org or, if you don't have access to a WWW browser, telnet to c2.org and login as "guest". In order to subscribe to our mailing list, send the message "subscribe nexus-berkeley" to majordomo(a)c2.org. (From a UNIX prompt: "echo subscribe nexus-berkeley | mail majordomo(a)c2.org") If you have any questions, send mail to info(a)c2.org.

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Zimmermann v. NSA debate
by Loren Fleckenstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I received this announcement from the World Affairs Council. Please cross post to other news groups: A debate pitting the issue of privacy against national security will be held at the next World Affairs Council event, Thursday Aug. 25 at the Thousand Oaks Inn, 75 West Thousand Oaks Blvd., in Thousand Oaks, Calif. Clinton Brooks, an assistant director of the National Security Agency and the leading force behind the "Clipper Chip," will debate civil libertarian Philip Zimmermann, author of the free encryption program Pretty Good Privacy (PGP). Cocktails and hors d'oeuvres will be served at 5:45 p.m. The debate begins at 6:30 p.m. The fee for advanced registration is $15. For more information, please contact Cindy Cook, (805) 373-9267.

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a fnerd by any other name
by fnerd＠smds.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, folks. I hope to be posting a lot less as "fnerd(a)smds.com" from now on. I got a PPP account at The Internet Access Company (near Boston, where I live). I made sure my subscription to cypherpunks-digest was working there, then cut off my cpunx subscription here. THE NEW ADDRESS FOR ME: sw(a)tiac.net (Steve Witham, former fnerd) The fnerd(a)smds.com address will still work, but I'm hoping to spend fewer hours at work reading mail! Let me tell you, for someone who's never had direct internet access before, having it at home with a Macintosh interface is fun! (Bostonians: $30 for 40 hours/month, $25 to Boston Computer Society members.) I particularly like sending reminders to myself between work and home. By the way, I've never trusted my PGP key since I got it on my hard disk once. I should figure out how to produce an official revocation notice. The PGP signatures on my messages were a fake. So for now you'll have to wonder whether I'm just a tentacle of myself. Fractal personality disorder? Nah, just good ol' - -Steve - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wake up, puppet boy! --Devo -----DISCONTINUE PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a

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Re: Are "they" really the enemy?
by jdd＠aiki.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In message <940815.080301.3B8.rusnews.w165w(a)sendai.cybrspc.mn.org> "Roy M. Silvernail" writes: > > I am an agnostic. I don't believe that 'they' exist. I believe that > > you have a system staffed by a random selection of the American > > population, somewhat skewed because people have some control over > > what area they work in. To work with a system, you need to understand > > it objectively, you need something more than incantations. > > You've been pressing this point for some time. I think the fundamental > flaw in your reasoning is that you are assuming the system to be the sum > of its parts. That's not the case, though. What I said was : "to work with a system, you need to understand it objectively". Then your reply was : "the fundamental flaw in your reasoning is ..." I did not 'reason', I said that it was necessary to reason rather than shout incantations. You then proceed to reason, and I of course have no objection to this: > In _Systemantics_, John Gall conducts a very interesting examination of > man-made systems and their behavior. He notes that all man-made systems > exhibit certain traits, among them growth, encroachment and promulgation > of intra-system goals. Your observation on the people employed by > government may be right on target, but it doesn't take into account the > entity of government itself. This entity cannot be touched, > communicated with or coerced. I more or less agree. Now apply your arguments to this list as a man-made system. > Put another way, even though every person within the system may be a > "good man", the system itself isn't necessarily good. I agree. But recall that I never spoke of goodness; I just said that the people who work for the government are pretty much a random assortment of Americans. On the other hand, there have been several heated statements to the effect that 'all lawyers are X' and 'all government employees are Y'. It is this that I disagree with the most. > I'm sure part of this is a cultural difference, given your .uk address. > The US Gov't probably looks better from outside than it does from > within. I am an American living in the UK. I have had several years of unpleasant experiences with various bureaucracies and other agencies of the US and state governments. I have closehand experience of the operation of the US military, including military intelligence. In other words, I base my opinions on extensive experience and observation, not all of which I care to discuss. I have seen colossal waste and massive irresponsibility from very close up. I need no lectures on these topics, especially from, is there a polite way to say this?, the ignorant. I have also seen the operations of other governments from very close up. I have lived most of my adult life outside the USA. Those other governments are, on average, somewhat worse and sometimes very much worse than the US government. And I have also learned that the US government is staffed by, as I said, pretty much a random assortment of Americans, and if you understand it, you can deal with it. You simply have to look at what really happens, and try to understand it. Reciting incantations has very little effect. -- Jim Dixon

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Re: Tommy Tag Lines
by Ben.Goren＠asu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:26 PM 8/14/94, Timothy C. May wrote: >Ben, ix-nay on the omb-bay talk! I asked you not to discuss these >things on open channels. >[. . .] Ah, but that's the beauty of it. Who would believe that we're actually doing anything? Better yet, what jury would now believe that all those messages that the NSA has gotten via Tempest from us were anything but elaborate NSA fodder? (I *knew* I should have bought that Faraday cage!) Seriously, though, what with the simplicity of communicating in a very secure manner on the 'net--whether that means PGP or old-fashioned code (Aunt Sally's not feeling all that well, but the postcard you sent really cheered her up. Are we still on for coffee and bagles at ten on Saturday?)--it makes one wonder just what the NSA is trying to monitor, and what they hope to accomplish by it. >--My name is May, _Tim_ May b& (special agent 004) -- Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu, Arizona State University School of Music net.proselytizing (write for info): The battle is over; Clipper is dead. But the war against Government Access to Keys (GAK) goes on. Finger ben(a)tux.music.asu.edu for PGP 2.6 public key ID 0xCFF23BD5.

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