December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Diogeneseses
by dance＠cicero.spc.uchicago.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>It's probably not all that surprising that we have a plethora of >Diogeneseseses, considering the role "he" played in _Ender's Game._ >Pr0duct C1pher (sp?), on the other hand, probably won't ever have a 'nym >conflict. _Ender's Game_ you say? Hmm. I simply assumed that we had a plethora of Diogeneses because Diogenes was a kick-ass Cynic. This has *nothing* to do with cipher. Cynicpunks anyone? Hmm. _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ All men recognize the right of _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ revolution; that is, the right _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ to refuse allegiance to, and to _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ resist, the government, when its _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ tyranny or its inefficiency are _/ great and unendurable. --Thoreau, Civil Disobedience

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# of Real Tim Mays, RTM (r)
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by ravage(a)bga.com (Jim choate) on Tue, 16 Aug 12:57 PM Zero RTM (r) in Manhattan. Maybe more encrypted; only 60% here list.

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Re: Something of Interest (fwd)
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:03 AM -0700 7/19/97, Alan wrote: >At 01:51 AM 7/19/97 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >>Hey, I'm here. Didn't get one of these IRS msgs at any of my accounts. >> >>Is it just me, or does anyone else remember a similar message being pumped >>out about the same time Bell was raided (April 1). > >I will check the archives... > No need to check. Recall that the odd name, "IRS Investigations," was our first word on the Bell raid. I didn't comment earlier when Declan asked, as I thought he was making a rhetorical point. --Tim May Voluntary Mandatory Self-Rating of this Article (U.S. Statute 43-666-970719). Warning: Failure to Correctly and Completely Label any Article or Utterance is a Felony under the "Children's Internet Safety Act of 1997," punishable by 6 months for the first offense, two years for each additional offense, and a $100,000 fine per offense. Reminder: The PICS/RSACi label must itself not contain material in violation of the Act. ** PICS/RSACi Voluntary Self-Rating (Text Form) ** : Suitable for Children: yes Age Rating: 5 years and up. Suitable for Christians: No Suitable for Moslems: No Hindus: Yes Pacifists: No Government Officials: No Nihilists: Yes Anarchists: Yes Vegetarians: Yes Vegans: No Homosexuals: No Atheists: Yes Caucasoids: Yes Negroids: No Mongoloids: Yes Bipolar Disorder: No MPD: Yes and No Attention Deficit Disorder:Huh? --Contains discussions of sexuality, rebellion, anarchy, chaos,torture, regicide, presicide, suicide, aptical foddering. --Contains references hurtful to persons of poundage and people of color.Sensitive persons are advised to skip this article. **SUMMARY** Estimated number of readers qualified to read this: 1 Composite Age Rating: 45 years

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USPS key server
by peace＠BIX.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Post from FEDERAL computer week 8/15/94 The US Postal Service said this month it will establish a new electronic commerce service Post from FEDERAL computer week 8/15/94 The US Postal Service said this month it will establish a new electronic commerce service nsure that their electronic transmissions are authentic and tamper proof. Richard Rothwell, senior director of technology integration at USPS, said last week that the service IS BEING TESTED internally by USPS personnel and withiin the FAA. Although many potential hurdles remain, Rothwell said the service may be publically avaiable as early as next year. ...Much more... verrry interesting

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Re: Are \\"they\\" really the enemy?
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by tcmay(a)netcom.com (Timothy C. May) on Thu, 18 Aug 4:41 PM >I'd be a lot more interested if there were >some tie-ins to crypto policy and technology. Yep, this is what I want also but need participation by others so I don't stick out too much and get Dixon-ized by Perry, or, bless him, Nzook-ized by Graham. Just see what happens when I post shortly. John

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Re: Remailer ideas
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Hal <hfinney(a)shell.portal.com> > . . . I still think that there would be real utility in the > ability to specify that a particular piece ofmail should be > re-transmitted if it does not get delivered to the destination > machine within a certain period of time. > That's one reason I like the "enabledmail" approach. All we have to do > is persuade everyone . . . . You *can't* get everybody to agree on anything, or limit themselves to anything. It'll be a long time before everybody starts supporting all the X.400 semantics, especially since people keep introducing useful competitors like MIME or painful ones like MicroSoft Mail - I'd be happy to get people to all agree to support RFC822 and SMTP... In the context of this discussion, automatic replies are probably unacceptable for many remailer-users, and don't work very well for replying to anonymous senders. Confirmation really does have to come from the user, and can only work if the user is able to build a return path. A useful surrogate for end-to-end replies are link-based bouncegrams. I'm not sure how much security you lose if you get remailers to support even one-hop NAKs, since the delays inherent in reordering mean you need to keep a return path step around in the remailer at least until you can do address validation; perhaps you could at least bounce on invalid syntax, but even that means decrypting incoming messages a while before sending and keeping them around in cleartext, which is Bad (or doubling the decryption work.) Bill

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Re: Voluntary Governments?
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Hal > What does it mean to speak of a government in cyberspace? It is the > government in physical space I fear. Its agents carry physical guns > which shoot real bullets. > ................................................................ Yeah. I recently reread Vinge's _True Names_; the protagonist is disturbed one day by a bunch of armed government thugs walking up to his house and letting him know they know his cyberspace alias, and that he'd better help them catch his friends or he'll lose his National Information Infrastructure Users' License. (It's not called that, but it's still a good prediction of what happens when you let government build the superhighways - he gives in because 98% of the jobs, and all of the good ones, require use of computer terminals.) Without cryptography, all you've got left is security by obscurity, the main technique used by the hackers in the book; even cryptographic systems need strong enough implementations built around the mathematically-strong parts to be truly safe. Bill

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Oops, Sorry
by Jeff Davis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry guys. I'll kill the message agent asap. I forgot about it. -- PGP PUBLIC KEY via finger! JAFEFFM Speaking & Thinking For Myself! * eagle(a)deeptht.armory.com email <info(a)eff.org> * *** O U T L A W S On The E L E C T R O N I C F R O N T I E R **** ***** Committed to Free Public Internet Access for World Peace ***** "When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!" JPB

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Another crypto talk in NYC (Wed., Aug. 24)
by dmandl＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A friend has invited me to give a cypherpunk/crypto/clipper talk at ABC No Rio in scenic downtown Manhattan later this month. Here's the announcement: ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: diseased(a)panix.com (Edward Hirsch) Newsgroups: panix.events Subject: Privacy in Cyberspace Talk Date: 15 Aug 1994 21:33:41 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com Hi folks. On August 24, at 7pm, cypherpunk, Semiotext(e) editor, WFMU personality, and panix resident Dave Mandl will be leading an open discussion on privacy in cyberspace. The talk will be at ABC No Rio, a non-profit, collectively-run art gallery and performance space located at 156 Rivington Street, on the Lower East Side. Admission is free/donation, and all are encouraged to attend. For more info, email to diseased(a)panix.com. ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- Dave Mandl dmandl(a)panix.com

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medusa & xsplit
by Arsen Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please forgive the delay, I've been busy restoring my files due to a nasty hard drive failure. Not to worry, I haven't lost the sources to Medusa nor Xsplit, and yes I do have a fix for xsplit.... =============================================================================== | + ^ + || ' . . . . . . . Ray (Arsen) Arachelian || | \|/ || . . . ' . ' . : . . rarachel(a)photon.poly.edu || |<--+-->||. . . |' '| .' . . ... ___ sunder(a)intercom.com || | /|\ || . . \___/ . . . : .... __[R] || | + v + || . oOOo /o.O\ oOOo :. : .. |A|"And disks to fix before I sleep" =========/---vvvv-------VVVV------------|I|----------------------------------/ / . : . ' : ' |D| This signature pannel is / / The Next Bug to kill(tm) --- now open. / /___________________________________________________________________/

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