December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: RE: Digicash bankruptcy
by Kawika Daguio 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Much of Digicash's problems came about as a result of its inventors worldview and dreams. These primary problems were caused by the same factors that created the impetus for their development. The business constraints that David Chaum attempted to impose on everyone interested in his technology included social theory driven restrictions. He really wanted to change not only how future payment systems worked but also wanted to change how current payment mechanisms and general social interaction and commerce worked in the future. I share some of his concerns, but do not find his solution satisfactory. I also remain unconvinced that point to point protection of sensitive information including credit cards numbers solves anything. Infosec as practiced in the WebWorld leaves much to be desired. Point to point encryption + weak and misleading naming (domain names) + near meaningless authentication + untrustworthy practices = slightly worse to slightly better than nothing at all. I am extremely patient (5-50 year time horizon) and remain hopeful that time, money, and proper attention by experienced risk and operations managers will resolve many of the weaknesses with current infrastructure and business models. Kawika >>> "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <hallam(a)ai.mit.edu> 11/05/98 09:07PM >>> Phil is right in much of what he says but in a couple of cases he is wrong. Regarding the 'vortex of buzz technologies', VRML, network computers and push are certainly not hot properties at the moment, neither is interactive TV - but the Web was designed as the antithesis of Interactive TV. The root failure of Interactive TV was the assumption that the world wanted to spend its time passively consuming the dross pumped out through a 1000 channel 120" TV which would dominate the home. I would also like to add Java onto the pile. Java today is simply what C++ should have been. It does not revolutionize the programming industry, it simply provides what some people think is an object oriented programming environment and removes some of the worst legacy clutter of C. Cryptographic payment systems are here - in the form of credit card transactions over SSL. The main problem with SET and its competitors is that SSL works a little too well. That is not to say that there is no future for SET. SSL and credit cards are unlikely to make the leap from the consumer market to the business to business market. SET provides an ideal platform to integrate the use of the credit card infrastructure for business payments. The other area where I would disagree is over protocols. HTTP is quite radically different to FTP in that it is a computer client to computer server protocol. The metaphor of FTP is rumaging through a filing cabinet. The HTTP and Web mechanism employs a locator. Admittedly there was nothing to stop a text mode Web being created in 1982 but nobody did so. What is true is that the time taken for Internet technologies to move to market is very slow. Much of the HTTP technology that just reached the market was proposed in '92 and '93. Finaly I have difficulty regarding Digicash as being all that socially responsible. Chaum's problems had a lot to do with the business terms he insisted on. What he had was a technology which allowed an improvement to a payment system. He imagined he had a monopoly on the only feasible solution. He was very baddly mistaken. The monopoly rents he demanded were more than the market was willing to pay for a working and deployed system - let alone for a patent license. Phill For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help".

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IP: New Law Requires ISPs to Register & Rat
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com X-Sender: believer(a)telepath.com Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:11:11 -0600 To: believer(a)telepath.com From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: New Law Requires ISPs to Register & Rat Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,28357,00.html?st.ne.1.head Law enlists ISPs in piracy fight By John Borland Staff Writer, CNET News.com November 4, 1998, 5:30 p.m. PT A new set of federal regulations requires Internet service providers to register immediately with the U.S. government, lest they be held legally liable for pirated material that flows through their servers. The new rules, which went into effect yesterday, flow from the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which was signed by President Clinton last week. The law shields ISPs from being sued for copyright infringement based on their subscribers' postings, so long as they register with the U.S. Copyright Office. The provision is the product of negotiations over the original copyright law, and was accepted reluctantly by service provider industry representatives. "This isn't what we would have wanted. It's a Washington approach to a simple kind of problem," said Dave McClure, executive director of the Association of Online Professionals, a trade group that represents ISPs. Copyright holders had complained that some ISPs were not responding to warnings about pirated material located on their servers, or were claiming ignorance even after being notified. "Copyright holders pushed for a requirement that a person actually be physically designated to receive information about infringement," McClure said. The new law fills a legal gap left by the passage of the Communications Decency Act in 1996. Under that law, ISPs cannot be held liable for slanderous or libelous material that is posted on their services. That provision, which has been tested several times in court already, specifically excludes copyright issues. The new regulations require each ISP to designate a point-person to receive complaints about copyright infringement, and to send that information to the federal copyright office along with a $20 filing fee. The person's name and contact information also must be displayed prominently on the ISP's Web site. The rules went into effect November 3. Any unregistered ISP can legally be held liable for pirated material on its site from now on. The Copyright Office rules are only an interim step in the new law's implementation. Regulators will draft permanent rules and host a public comment period later this year or early next year. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **************************************************** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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securities - PRIVATE PLACEMENT WSG TECH, INC.
by privateplacement＠royal.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Opportunities in manufacturing and marketing patented products. This announcement is neither an offer to sell nor a solicitation of an offer to buy these securities. Sales will be made only by a final Offering Memorandum and only in states where these securities may be offered in compliance with the securities laws of such states. The final Offering Memorandum will NOT be available to residents of the states of Hawaii, Washington, or Wisconsin. PRIVATE PLACEMENT MEMORANDUM REGULATION - RULE 504 UNDER THE SECURITIES ACT OF 1933. 500,000 Shares of Common class non-voting stock. (Par Value $.001 Per Share) $2.00 Per Share with a 5,000 Share Minimum of WSG Tech, Inc. WSG Tech, Inc. (Company), a Nevada corporation was incorporated in Nevada in August 1998. The Company owns the manufacturing and distribution rights, or has the Options to the rights of several commercially viable patented products, and is negotiating for others. The firm also owns the option to purchase an established manufacturing firm with over twenty (20) years of continuous profitable performance. The completion of this purchase will give WSG Tech, Inc. complete control over the manufacturing, sales, distribution and fulfillment of its own products. It will also give the Company a core business of manufacturing for other clients as well as an experienced production and sales staff. The Company has recently concluded an Agreement with an International marketing firm, and is negotiating an agreement for the manufacture and distribution of its products in Europe and South America. The Company's corporate mailing address is P.O. Box 541732 Lake Worth, Florida 33454 USA The company is offering to the public an invitation to participate in the funding of the company. For a copy of the Offering Memorandum, you may contact the Company's investment consultant, e-mail us at privateopportunity(a)bigfoot.com Be sure to put "Send Me A Copy" in the Subject Line and include your name and address.

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Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:39:53 -0200 Reply-To: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> Sender: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> From: Ed Gerck <egerck(a)LASER.CPS.SOFTEX.BR> Subject: Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies To: DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies This is a comment to the article "Not for Identification Purposes" by Richard Sobel, of 8/12/98, and a reply by Jorge Cortell-Albert, all referenced at http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/filter/101598/letters.html >From the inherent conflict seen in these articles, it is quite apparent that one could profit from a new perspective when dealing with identification issues today. Not only because of historical examples of misuse or because the Clinton administration is proposing a national ID card that may compromise privacy, but because we need to harmonize needs with tools. Clearly, there is an escalating need to identify -- likewise, there is an increasingly easy access to information and massive cross-checking of data based on global indexes. Biometrics, contrary to expressed opinion such as Cortell-Albert's, is not self-secure and cannot protect what it forthrightly denies: privacy. One does not even have to recall the proverbial truck that hits the subject, in order to realize that biometrics is also perishable. In fact, biometrics just highlights the basic paradox of privacy versus security -- where one is asked to forfeit privacy in a rather permanent way in order to gain some transient level of security. Are identification and privacy antinomies, like freedom and slavery? Is there an unresolvable conflict between both security and privacy? Current expressed opinion, such as Sobel's and Cortell-Albert's, says "yes" to both questions. As we have no real solution within the current level of understanding, one needs a fresh look into identification and identity. To exercise the solution, Internet protocols can provide a good practical arena accessible to all and truly international -- thus, I will use it in this exposition as an example. However, it will be clear that I could likewise use anything else -- even the US Government's current proposal for a national ID card. Identification is often understood as an act of identifying, or of establishing an identity. Identity is usually defined as "the distinguishing character or personality of an individual" [1]. Of course, such definitions cannot be applied on the Internet. Any mention to "identity" or "identity authentication" on the Internet is a mere tag for something else, such as an individual's purported attribute. Certainly, without any physical contact with an individual or even without any way to directly verify it. It is simply not possible to speak of "identity" or "identification" as a dictionary defines it, over the Internet. All legal and technical studies that call for or depend on such equivalence are misleading. Any such "identity" or "identification" can be faked, repudiated or are specifically unwarranted (e.g. by commercial CAs) to relying-parties over the Internet. That the US INS accepts UK birth (naming) certificates in order to certify immigration status for its own policy of regulation, does not mean that the INS is acting to "confirm" the legitimacy of the name, or organise the UK namespace. So, the first conclusion is that acceptance of an identity by a recipient does not make that identification more veritable to others ... though it is often interpreted so, especially when a third document is issued by the recipient and publicly known. Sure, there is a bar on the standard of the {UK,...} authorities who the INS respects sufficiently for its own activities. But INS confirmation (or rather "use") confers no status on the original document unless the INS policy wished to make such representation explicit. Which would involve legal responsibilities that escalate like those that would derive from a blank signed cheque. Thus, this is also an unsolved problem in the 3D-world, outside the Internet. On 15th April 1997, The Daily Telegraph, a UK quality newspaper, reported on Alan Reeve [2] -- a convicted criminal and triple killer who was described as "friendly, caring, dependable and loving" by his fiancÈe when he was arrested under false identity in Ireland. Clearly, the indeterminacy of "identity" on the 3D-world is itself a reason to doubt any extension of such credentials to the Internet [3,4]. Which is made worse by the often neglected fact that the certificate user (e.g., "relying-party") is not privy to the contract between the CA and the certificate subscriber [3]. Further, CAs effectively contradict any possible public rights that relying-parties might claim, by declaring in the CA's CPS (the governing law) that a certificate has no warranted content to relying-parties [3]. Moreover, on the Internet, we also need to identify hosts, routing, software, etc. -- not just humans. Thus, the basic Net disconnect is that the Internet is essentially that wire that goes to your computer! Anything else that you imagine is just this -- you imagine. Even if you receive a message that looks like mine, from my address, should you believe 100% it is mine? "Doubt until you have proof". Of course, the degree of proof required depends on what is at stake and what is your cost -- however, the best proof is to be considered the one that leaves the concerned parties with no doubts [cf. 2]. Of course, the law may require a higher degree of proof (eg, when buying firearms you cannot just do it over e-mail -- you need to present a legal identity, a legal connection to yourself and perhaps also an address as a further legal connection). The same disconnect happens in the 3D world, because who is to affirm that the presented ID card is the "right one"? Or, that the person depicted in the card is the "right one"? Who is Alan Reeve? However, as given in [5,6], there is an answer to the privacy/security paradox. And, practical tools that may help the Clinton administration (or, any government, company or individual) to decrease costs without resorting to privacy burdens over the puported beneficiaries. The answer begins by a question: What is "to identify"? The study shows that "to identify" is to look for connections. Thus, in identification we look for logical or natural connections -- we look for coherence. The work shows that not identity but coherence is the general metric for identification and deduces more than 64 basic types of identification. More coherence and more identification types mean stronger identification, even if anonymous. Identification can thus be understood not only in the sense of an "identity" connection, but in the wider sense of "any" connection. Which one to use is just a matter of protocol expression, need, cost and (very importantly) privacy concerns. A further benefit is that it allows clear definitions for a large number of new anonymous identification types, sorely needed on the Internet, for e-commerce and to decrease costs inccurred with fraud, in general, but without compromising one's privacy just to tank the car or buy a lunch. I note that even though motivated by the Internet, as a practical arena, the concepts reported in [5,6] can be applied to improve any identification method -- including the present proposal by the US Government. Cheers, Ed Gerck ============================================ References: [1] Merriam-Webster Dictionary, http:www.m-w.com [2] http://www.mcg.org.br/auth_b1.htm [3] http://www.mcg.org.br/certover.pdf [4] http://www.mcg.org.br/cert.htm [5] http://www.mcg.org.br/coherence.txt [6] http://www.mcg.org.br/coherence2.txt ______________________________________________________________________ Dr.rer.nat. E. Gerck egerck(a)novaware.cps.softex.br http://novaware.cps.softex.br --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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17 Dec '03

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FCC Wiretap Rule
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FCC has issued its Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on CALEA wiretap provisions, approved on October 22: http://jya.com/fcc98282.htm (243K) Zipped: http://jya.com/fcc98282.zip (67K) Lengthy discussion of petitioners (CDT, EFF, telcos, others) objections and FBI's responses.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Digicash bankruptcy
by SECRET AGENT 66 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The root failure of Interactive TV was the assumption >that the world wanted to spend its time passively consuming the dross >pumped out through a 1000 channel Actually, the failure of interactive tv was that the world was perfectly happy passively comsuming the dross pumped out through a 1000 channels. Probably explains the failure of digicash, too. joab

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ADV: Hot-Stock Discovers Emerging Entertainment Company
by info＠hot-stock.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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