December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Deloitte-Touche?
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mark <mark(a)infolawalert.com> writes: > I'm almost certain that Murray is a consultant rather than > or in addition to an accountant. He's been saying these things William Murray used to post frequently to sci.crypt, alt.security.pgp, etc when I read those forums. He also I think wrote the forword for one of the books on using PGP. Adam -- print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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Re: mail-to-news fun
by Scott V. McGuire 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: ...snip... > If I were going to restart a remailer, and to offer news posting, > I'd probably limit it to posting to moderated newsgroups only, > so a human can trash things that look like SPAM or abuse; > the abuse that caused me to kill my remailer wasn't something > a simple filter would catch. (I'd also prefix each posting with a > header about this message having been received from an anonymous source, > not verified, not guaranteed to be worth the electrons it's printed on, > probably not written by anybody whose name's at the bottom, etc.... > People don't read mail headers or disclaimers at the bottom, > and putting disclaimers like that into message text for > email exposes the message to traffic analysis.) How does putting it in the message expose it to traffic analysis but not putting it in a header? > ...snip... > > # Thanks; Bill > # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com > # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp > # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.) > -------------------- Scott V. McGuire <svmcguir(a)syr.edu> PGP key available at http://web.syr.edu/~svmcguir Key fingerprint = 86 B1 10 3F 4E 48 75 0E 96 9B 1E 52 8B B1 26 05

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anonymous remailers
by c.musselman＠internetmci.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

C'punks -- When I told a friend about the alt.drugs.pot cultivation newsgroup and suggested that he use an anonymous remailer to post to the group, he laughed and said, "Who do you suppose runs the remailers? ATF, FBI, DEA, that's who!" Gee, it makes sense to this paranoid. Does anyone know the answer? Specifically, how can we choose a trusted remailer? Cheers (?), Charley

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No Subject
by steve 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have been trying to get off this list for nearly a week now. The instructions given in the welcome message don't work. Get me off this list now.! I joined to learn about cryptography, not listen to some socially retarded juveniles argue over who's got the biggest dick. -----Original Message----- From: Majordomo(a)toad.com [SMTP:Majordomo@toad.com] Sent: 06 February 1997 19:43 To: steve Subject: Your Majordomo request results -- Your request of Majordomo was: >>>> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC1463.B5C5FAE0 END OF COMMANDS

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Updated type2.list/pubring.mix
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have just updated the type2.list/pubring.mix combination on jpunix.com. This change reflects the retirement of the lead remailer. The files are available by anon FTP from ftp.jpunix.com as well as by Web from www.jpunix.com. John Perry KG5RG perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! Amateur Radio Address: kg5rg(a)kg5rg.ampr.org WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMvphXlOTpEThrthvAQGUUQP+Ky4BkG/WYyVKCp0gAANWIGF6or7yd0nm IKCxRSMr2YU2znuEmks0DfxgxEeXMO5ZC7squdWkHnQJ6IDfBPydYn7KMNV+oUAu QjH9lTEVqnlJk515xSC5lCZwqTgMwHBZZhGJyvYlJam5A3EZLrALdFUFdFagKWRN 3dc5iLDuZ94= =pAwB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Kool! Klassy! Klever!
by starvino＠gte.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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(K.R.A.P.P.E.R. = Keeping Responsible Americas Perpetually Prosperous, Entertained and Rewarded) If your Kredit is in the Krapper and your monthly credit card bills are more than your mortgage payments and grocery bill combined then: 1) you are in trouble, and 2) You are just like millions of others who need help NOW. ANNOUNCING THE LAUNCH OF DEBTKRAPPER, without doubt the most unique off the wall lucrative opportunity to make a lot of money & enjoy a good laugh. Our highly entertaining and prestigious weekly newsletter, the ROYAL FLUSH, is designed to bring a smile to your face while helping put YOUR bills in the Krapper where they belong! If your lottery tickets are worth less than toilet paper and youre not laughing all the way to the bank, join the newest, hottest, funniest, most positive way to wipe out your debts - permanently. (Unofficial motto: It may not be much, but it sure beats the Krap out of debt!) 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(K.R.A.P.P.E.R. = Keeping Responsible Americas Perpetually Prosperous, Entertained and Rewarded) If your Kredit is in the Krapper and your monthly credit card bills are more than your mortgage payments and grocery bill combined then: 1) you are in trouble, and 2) You are just like millions of others who need help NOW. ANNOUNCING THE LAUNCH OF DEBTKRAPPER, without doubt the most unique off the wall lucrative opportunity to make a lot of money & enjoy a good laugh. Our highly entertaining and prestigious weekly newsletter, the ROYAL FLUSH, is designed to bring a smile to your face while helping put YOUR bills in the Krapper where they belong! If your lottery tickets are worth less than toilet paper and youre not laughing all the way to the bank, join the newest, hottest, funniest, most positive way to wipe out your debts - permanently. (Unofficial motto: It may not be much, but it sure beats the Krap out of debt!) DEBTKRAPPER - MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER PRETTY MLM: · 3 x 7 forced matrix + extras · the most FUN NEWSLETTER on the Internet (also the most modest) * Up to $6400/month from the original matrix * extensive company advertising = SPILLOVER! For more information on the NEWEST, NUTTIEST way to earn a LUCRATIVE, RESIDUAL income, e-mail with "DK-Info" in subject line to: starvino(a)gte.net This is a company-sponsored ad. You will be placed in the highest available spot in the COMPANY matrix. IMPORTANT: We're looking for one more "MLM pro" to head up our 3rd and final company leg .. if you think you qualify, let us know! If this message has reached you in error, we apologize. Your name will be automatically & permanently deleted from our files if you do not reply. DebtKrapper??? (K.R.A.P.P.E.R. = Keeping Responsible Americas Perpetually Prosperous, Entertained and Rewarded) If your Kredit is in the Krapper and your monthly credit card bills are more than your mortgage payments and grocery bill combined then: 1) you are in trouble, and 2) You are just like millions of others who need help NOW. ANNOUNCING THE LAUNCH OF DEBTKRAPPER, without doubt the most unique off the wall lucrative opportunity to make a lot of money & enjoy a good laugh. Our highly entertaining and prestigious weekly newsletter, the ROYAL FLUSH, is designed to bring a smile to your face while helping put YOUR bills in the Krapper where they belong! If your lottery tickets are worth less than toilet paper and youre not laughing all the way to the bank, join the newest, hottest, funniest, most positive way to wipe out your debts - permanently. (Unofficial motto: It may not be much, but it sure beats the Krap out of debt!) DEBTKRAPPER - MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER PRETTY MLM: · 3 x 7 forced matrix + extras · the most FUN NEWSLETTER on the Internet (also the most modest) * Up to $6400/month from the original matrix * extensive company advertising = SPILLOVER! For more information on the NEWEST, NUTTIEST way to earn a LUCRATIVE, RESIDUAL income, e-mail with "DK-Info" in subject line to: starvino(a)gte.net This is a company-sponsored ad. You will be placed in the highest available spot in the COMPANY matrix. IMPORTANT: We're looking for one more "MLM pro" to head up our 3rd and final company leg .. if you think you qualify, let us know! If this message has reached you in error, we apologize. Your name will be automatically & permanently deleted from our files if you do not reply. DebtKrapper??? (K.R.A.P.P.E.R. = Keeping Responsible Americas Perpetually Prosperous, Entertained and Rewarded) If your Kredit is in the Krapper and your monthly credit card bills are more than your mortgage payments and grocery bill combined then: 1) you are in trouble, and 2) You are just like millions of others who need help NOW. ANNOUNCING THE LAUNCH OF DEBTKRAPPER, without doubt the most unique off the wall lucrative opportunity to make a lot of money & enjoy a good laugh. Our highly entertaining and prestigious weekly newsletter, the ROYAL FLUSH, is designed to bring a smile to your face while helping put YOUR bills in the Krapper where they belong! If your lottery tickets are worth less than toilet paper and youre not laughing all the way to the bank, join the newest, hottest, funniest, most positive way to wipe out your debts - permanently. (Unofficial motto: It may not be much, but it sure beats the Krap out of debt!) DEBTKRAPPER - MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER PRETTY MLM: · 3 x 7 forced matrix + extras · the most FUN NEWSLETTER on the Internet (also the most modest) * Up to $6400/month from the original matrix * extensive company advertising = SPILLOVER! For more information on the NEWEST, NUTTIEST way to earn a LUCRATIVE, RESIDUAL income, e-mail with "DK-Info" in subject line to: starvino(a)gte.net This is a company-sponsored ad. You will be placed in the highest available spot in the COMPANY matrix. IMPORTANT: We're looking for one more "MLM pro" to head up our 3rd and final company leg .. if you think you qualify, let us know! If this message has reached you in error, we apologize. Your name will be automatically & permanently deleted from our files if you do not reply. DebtKrapper??? (K.R.A.P.P.E.R. = Keeping Responsible Americas Perpetually Prosperous, Entertained and Rewarded) If your Kredit is in the Krapper and your monthly credit card bills are more than your mortgage payments and grocery bill combined then: 1) you are in trouble, and 2) You are just like millions of others who need help NOW. ANNOUNCING THE LAUNCH OF DEBTKRAPPER, without doubt the most unique off the wall lucrative opportunity to make a lot of money & enjoy a good laugh. Our highly entertaining and prestigious weekly newsletter, the ROYAL FLUSH, is designed to bring a smile to your face while helping put YOUR bills in the Krapper where they belong! If your lottery tickets are worth less than toilet paper and youre not laughing all the way to the bank, join the newest, hottest, funniest, most positive way to wipe out your debts - permanently. (Unofficial motto: It may not be much, but it sure beats the Krap out of debt!) DEBTKRAPPER - MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER PRETTY MLM: · 3 x 7 forced matrix + extras · the most FUN NEWSLETTER on the Internet (also the most modest) * Up to $6400/month from the original matrix * extensive company advertising = SPILLOVER! For more information on the NEWEST, NUTTIEST way to earn a LUCRATIVE, RESIDUAL income, e-mail with "DK-Info" in subject line to: starvino(a)gte.net This is a company-sponsored ad. You will be placed in the highest available spot in the COMPANY matrix. IMPORTANT: We're looking for one more "MLM pro" to head up our 3rd and final company leg .. if you think you qualify, let us know! If this message has reached you in error, we apologize. Your name will be automatically & permanently deleted from our files if you do not reply. DebtKrapper??? (K.R.A.P.P.E.R. = Keeping Responsible Americas Perpetually Prosperous, Entertained and Rewarded) If your Kredit is in the Krapper and your monthly credit card bills are more than your mortgage payments and grocery bill combined then: 1) you are in trouble, and 2) You are just like millions of others who need help NOW. ANNOUNCING THE LAUNCH OF DEBTKRAPPER, without doubt the most unique off the wall lucrative opportunity to make a lot of money & enjoy a good laugh. Our highly entertaining and prestigious weekly newsletter, the ROYAL FLUSH, is designed to bring a smile to your face while helping put YOUR bills in the Krapper where they belong! If your lottery tickets are worth less than toilet paper and youre not laughing all the way to the bank, join the newest, hottest, funniest, most positive way to wipe out your debts - permanently. (Unofficial motto: It may not be much, but it sure beats the Krap out of debt!) DEBTKRAPPER - MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER PRETTY MLM: · 3 x 7 forced matrix + extras · the most FUN NEWSLETTER on the Internet (also the most modest) * Up to $6400/month from the original matrix * extensive company advertising = SPILLOVER! For more information on the NEWEST, NUTTIEST way to earn a LUCRATIVE, RESIDUAL income, e-mail with "DK-Info" in subject line to: starvino(a)gte.net This is a company-sponsored ad. You will be placed in the highest available spot in the COMPANY matrix. IMPORTANT: We're looking for one more "MLM pro" to head up our 3rd and final company leg .. if you think you qualify, let us know! If this message has reached you in error, we apologize. Your name will be automatically & permanently deleted from our files if you do not reply. DebtKrapper??? (K.R.A.P.P.E.R. = Keeping Responsible Americas Perpetually Prosperous, Entertained and Rewarded) If your Kredit is in the Krapper and your monthly credit card bills are more than your mortgage payments and grocery bill combined then: 1) you are in trouble, and 2) You are just like millions of others who need help NOW. ANNOUNCING THE LAUNCH OF DEBTKRAPPER, without doubt the most unique off the wall lucrative opportunity to make a lot of money & enjoy a good laugh. Our highly entertaining and prestigious weekly newsletter, the ROYAL FLUSH, is designed to bring a smile to your face while helping put YOUR bills in the Krapper where they belong! If your lottery tickets are worth less than toilet paper and youre not laughing all the way to the bank, join the newest, hottest, funniest, most positive way to wipe out your debts - permanently. (Unofficial motto: It may not be much, but it sure beats the Krap out of debt!) DEBTKRAPPER - MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER PRETTY MLM: · 3 x 7 forced matrix + extras · the most FUN NEWSLETTER on the Internet (also the most modest) * Up to $6400/month from the original matrix * extensive company advertising = SPILLOVER! For more information on the NEWEST, NUTTIEST way to earn a LUCRATIVE, RESIDUAL income, e-mail with "DK-Info" in subject line to: starvino(a)gte.net This is a company-sponsored ad. You will be placed in the highest available spot in the COMPANY matrix. IMPORTANT: We're looking for one more "MLM pro" to head up our 3rd and final company leg .. if you think you qualify, let us know! If this message has reached you in error, we apologize. Your name will be automatically & permanently deleted from our files if you do not reply. DebtKrapper??? (K.R.A.P.P.E.R. = Keeping Responsible Americas Perpetually Prosperous, Entertained and Rewarded) If your Kredit is in the Krapper and your monthly credit card bills are more than your mortgage payments and grocery bill combined then: 1) you are in trouble, and 2) You are just like millions of others who need help NOW. ANNOUNCING THE LAUNCH OF DEBTKRAPPER, without doubt the most unique off the wall lucrative opportunity to make a lot of money & enjoy a good laugh. Our highly entertaining and prestigious weekly newsletter, the ROYAL FLUSH, is designed to bring a smile to your face while helping put YOUR bills in the Krapper where they belong! If your lottery tickets are worth less than toilet paper and youre not laughing all the way to the bank, join the newest, hottest, funniest, most positive way to wipe out your debts - permanently. (Unofficial motto: It may not be much, but it sure beats the Krap out of debt!) DEBTKRAPPER - MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER PRETTY MLM: · 3 x 7 forced matrix + extras · the most FUN NEWSLETTER on the Internet (also the most modest) * Up to $6400/month from the original matrix * extensive company advertising = SPILLOVER! For more information on the NEWEST, NUTTIEST way to earn a LUCRATIVE, RESIDUAL income, e-mail with "DK-Info" in subject line to: starvino(a)gte.net This is a company-sponsored ad. You will be placed in the highest available spot in the COMPANY matrix. IMPORTANT: We're looking for one more "MLM pro" to head up our 3rd and final company leg .. if you think you qualify, let us know!

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EXTRA CHARGE FOR INTERNET SERVICE !
by Brian Adrian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just received this from another mailing list. PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL INTERESTED PARTIES I am writing you this to inform you of a very important matter currently under review by the FCC. Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose per minute charges for your internet service. They contend that your usage has or will hinder the operation of the telephone network. It is my belief that internet usage will diminish if users were required to pay additional per minute charges. The FCC has created an email box for your comments, responses must be received by February 13, 1997. Send your comments to isp(a)fcc.gov and tell them what you think. Every phone company is in on this one, and they are trying to sneak it in just under the wire for litigation. Let everyone you know here this one. Get the e-mail address to everyone you can think of. isp(a)fcc.gov Please forward this email to all your friends on the internet so all our voices may be heard! It's time to let them know just who is paying their salaries. Don't sit back and be quite on this one, SPEAK YOUR MIND, LET THEM KNOW THIS IS BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!! Just passing it along... Brian Adrian e-mail: chow(a)niven.imsweb.net Web page: http://home.imsweb.net/~chow/

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Re: "Why am I being completely censored"?
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I'd just appreciate it if someone would explain to me just why > I'm being completely censored from the cypherpunks list. ... > Absolutely none of my recent postings are even going to > cypherpunks-unedited, I've received no response to my mail to > gnu(a)toad.com asking why, and I've received absolutely no bounces > indicating that there are delivery problems. I haven't investigated your story because you didn't provide enough details and because I have been busy with other things. There is no infrastructure here for blocking postings from going through cypherpunks-unedited. It really is unedited. Perhaps there is a mailer problem (at your end or at mine). If you cc'd yourself on your messages to cypherpunks, please send me a verbatim copy of such a message that did not appear in cypherpunks-unedited, including all the header lines. I can trace whether it was ever seen on the toad.com end and what happened if it was. Hmm. Your message that I just received, about this problem, was cc'd to cypherpunks. It did not make it into the cypherpunks-unedited list. In examining the message header itself, there is an "Approved: yes" line. My guess is that your attempt to be too tricky has screwed you. Majordomo is probably zapping postings that claim to be, but aren't actually, moderator-approved. This is just a guess. Please try making a posting to cypherpunks without such a line, and see if it goes through into the unedited list. Let me know. John

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WANTED: Tolerant, anonymity-friendly news admins
by lcs Remailer Administrator 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Because of recent attacks on the remailer network and mail2news gateways, I may loose access to at least one of the news servers I currently feed news to from my mail2news gateway. If you are a news administrator, believe in free speech and anonymity, and you would like to help the cause, please consider giving transfer (aka "IHAVE" or "hosts.nntp") privileges to this machine. You will not be the only server, and so do not need to worry about being the point of entrance of mail2news articles to Usenet. Please contact me if you can help. Thank you. For those who oppose the existence of mail2news gateways, you should know that we are taking steps to limit the abuse. However, doing so without in any way limiting articles that abide by the usage policy is tricky, and must be done carefully. Please be patient.

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Re: Cypherpunks FOIA request
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:49 PM 2/5/97 -0800, Lucky Green wrote: >My attorney used to fly planes with nuclear cargo. Another friend of mine >has been visited several times by the FBI. In either case, the FBI claimed >upon receiving an FOIA request that they have no record on either person. >Does anybody here believe that the USAF would let pilots take off with >nukes on board without ever conducting a background investigation (which >are handled by the FBI)? I didn't think so. Background investigations for defense contractors are handled by DISCO, the Defense Industrial Security Clearance Office; I don't know if they also do internal military clearance work, but I'd assume it's _somebody_ on the military side rather than FBI, though presumably the military does also check FBI records (and the FBI probably doesn't have a blanket policy of always lying to the military :-) Nuclear clearances presumably go into more depth... As far as your friend being visited by the FBI several times, that's obviously part of an ongoing criminal investigation (:-), so they don't have to tell you. If they're still thinking about going back and harassing your friend, it's still ongoing, even if they now know that he is or is not a Commie Sympathizer. That, or they could have just been unable to find the records. Anything computerized should be findable (doesn't mean it _is_, just that it should be), though they're probably more organized about finding things they want to find than finding things you want them to find. But records that exist only on paper are a lot tougher to wade through; you can't grep dead trees, and if your friend was being checked out as "somebody suspicious who knows somebody we're trying to investigate/harass", the files may not be indentified under your friend's name, or may be stored in some big warehouse where nobody's waded through them in decades. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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