December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Canada bans anonymous political speech, from The Netly News
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

********* http://pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,940,00.html The Netly News Network May 13, 1997 No, Canada by Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) Krishna Bera wasn't surprised when the order from the Canadian government arrived last Friday. It was couched in the stilted language of universal bureaucratese, but its message was cold and clear: Purge a political endorsement from your web site or go to jail. Bera's offending web page had said simply, "Vote Green." It didn't exhort its readers to commit a crime. It wasn't libelous or defamatory. It didn't even feature any porn. Yet the pro-Green Party statement was enough to draw the ire of the commissioner of elections, for Canada has a rule, buried in the 187-page Elections Act, that prohibits anonymous political recommendations. And Bera's web page was unsigned. [...] ------------------------- Declan McCullagh Time Inc. The Netly News Network Washington Correspondent http://netlynews.com/

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Re: "The policeman inside" (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "Ross Wright" <rwright(a)adnetsol.com> > Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:41:52 -0700 > Subject: Re: "The policeman inside" > Hey, *They* read this list anyways. Fuck *Them* Hard. > > > Beware the policeman inside. > > Fuck the FBI, Fuck the CIA. Fuck 'em all. Now that's freedom! God, > I love America! That isn't freedom, its emotional gratification. Freedom would be not having to worry about them in the first place. Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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Cypherpunks meeting in SE
by whgiii＠NO.amaranth.com.SPAM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I am intrested in setting up a cypherpunks meeting in the South East USA. I think that Atlanta would be a good place for this but I am open to other locations. I am located in FL so I would like to keep it within a days drive (Atlanta is 4-5 hrs from me). If you would be intrested in such a meeting please e-mail me and let me know when you would be able to attend and where you are located. If I can get enough people intrested I would like this to be a monthly thing simmilar to the meetings on the West Coast. Thanks, - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. Finger whgiii(a)amaranth.com for PGP Key and other info - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tag-O-Matic: Windows NT: From the makers of Windows 3.1! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Registered User E-Secure v1.1 ES000000 iQCVAwUBM3ka549Co1n+aLhhAQF1TAP/ZgGHDjGI/LeIeDPv3IALNYWYgXucZ3+r ODpUOtIAbCp/FVGdBTnPuKuKvsOzEVIk6Uly1OzEh4kdKXV7W+VbhBoUJX3NF+0J gTWPfq2bSFbsMR85Ln+T0FCeWTAjrzuOwSTjy1YrlFKGc75JJ4oMlk15aMrK84/v voyNIKPZ2ko= =mWRj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [STEGO] Secure envelopes
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Tue May 13 16:01:35 1997 > On Tue, 13 May 1997, The Spectre wrote: > > I suggest that nobody do this, as this will filter out anonymous mail > from these remailers. You do, of course, have the right to filter out > whomever you want, but there are worthwhile anonymous contributions > from these remailers. I personally don't see what the big deal is > with these ascii-art messages. 95% of the time, these messages are > very easy to spot, and the remaining 5%, it takes two seconds to hit > the "delete" key. hmmmm.. Go figure out how many years of your life you'll waste doing that once you calculate how many of these messages arrive each hour, let alone each day. I, personally, have been on this mailing list for a while now, and have never seen *any* worthwhile posts from either of those remailers, or any other for that matter. If you've got something to say, say it. Anything less is cowardice, in one form or another. Or, if you like, I'll remove my spam filter and you can come hit my delete key for me... - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzM2vJwAAAEH/1uuDgh1udD+DbU9ies8Lst3j7bmlM+m+aN0gVwerfx+uA14 AG6RDZwwCLwCZYxh0/AizW1b25nHs5XDFW7QIVo1/agtbyz3rt7plcp3wi+rXPxo zFPgILegG2k81mHYIYVJ1g9bEExVGsNc7GMthkaOjPL2VYirQPRtAa4ZZc6JuCLH I85xIcwuLppYajUU4WMMf4yz+5w1WtTlHdL9+ec6BHoF+fOhsF/8DMd5nveFl0aM G52t+z6okMw9vFjLbEtj0BbDRsMjRJNM5uFQWzU+nPEaUzVP+MySe/yrjR2P3dZa UKjpG3Er7U4DV7rb8mE20Wet10jJoALjG8yMZrUABRG0HVRoZSBTcGVjdHJlIDxz cGVjdHJlQG5hYy5uZXQ+iQEVAwUQM0qy66AC4xvMjGa1AQGNLAf/QY5SyC/jybOQ asYfNqhPFip0gZwUutOOgPdyrEsXoxFOWJ9OG95dzvNJ3of22zh4RLusUt5NT7lB DFUKiP4aQsNf5XmW+qk/R1nmqyO/XHAAAdIos2SGsYew2d3JatIlFZIQ+vMkEOC0 +oPotz7effhkDKeYl+Qdla9eZ1C47Be2NrA1sH26jKYhCob6VnAK+zAin8ZPEnb0 XEKQTMVdE2ehv2Q8PxygZhDI0L6sM6EgguvDWjJuGN4bIhxh22dAyNRJ7CVQsqwV rj4TtkAuqUb0nyQvD2xUeJcB/O+1LCH7oFBE4EG1qEIl7asVjEURrfej7OwxRrA0 J0Lc5tZToA== =tS4W - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3jIoqAC4xvMjGa1AQHYGQf+LnnFnEHTlH+7N1X9gdG+Q+qyp44r1mHu kw6FcENloFaE7oRpaDffaCOlBEAwJEQYnPNr6LOD18rTYQ2ZgruI/sv73KslBDI9 CLRjBRpzPSyF3+59uGusxOdLzHIzKjUSrB0xF5n/C07DnEoDa9DvXz1p+XnuPxf5 ZgXbrPMrac66K+Mz16XyJeI7eUjUEpqgc1s4OJuBpLZkCskncL9lUr9lfoHw8neE g4fjzH4csJ6XWh7z5ZZWN1dK9n8dUe13Er7rTLXT7Y0Md7DlkeyinJqPGd4eoPZ9 z2Rka6QJKBs4JC5cki4Hf9zOnHfJiqc5d30v1A0S+u1paOkoGQd0zQ== =tJQ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: "The policeman inside"
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 13 May 97 at 9:19, Tim May wrote: > As ur-cyberpunk Burroughs noted, we must beware "the policeman > inside." > > Authorities _want_ people to "police themselves," to think twice > before speaking freely, to limit the topic of their conversations, > and to generally fear the knock on the door late at night (or, in > fin de siecle Amerika, the suddent appearance of black-clad ninja in > one's bedroom at 4 a.m., shooting anything that moves). Hey, that shit scares me, too. BUT: > Bomb-making information is protected by the First Amendment. Period. Correct. It's using that technology that's the crime, in most cases. > So is crypto information. So is saying Congressmen are vermin who > need to be taken out and shot. I think you can say "taken out and Spanked Naked In The Streets" I don't think you can advocate shooting them... Correct me if I'm wrong. > Get this straight, people! The First Amendment *IS* still in force. > (Now whether such opinions are to one's taste, or whether the > Cypherpunks list is a reasonable forum for posting bomb-making > plans...well, that's a completely different issue, one of taste and > appropriateness, First Amendment issues are *on topic*. > than the calls by Declan and Ray that such messages > are dangerous and could invite retaliation by the Authorities. If > that's indeed the case, then by all means we should be posting > bomb-making instructions and calls for treason trials with street > justice.) Hey, *They* read this list anyways. Fuck *Them* Hard. > Beware the policeman inside. Fuck the FBI, Fuck the CIA. Fuck 'em all. Now that's freedom! God, I love America! =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: (408) 259-2795

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Re: KKK derails crypto bill, report from House Judiciary... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)amaranth.com> > Date: Tue, 13 May 97 19:23:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: KKK derails crypto bill, report from House Judiciary... > I personaly think that this is a good thing. :))) > > Every bill that *is not* passed by congress is just that much more freedom > that is saved. If all the bills passed by congress over the past 100yrs. > could all be repealed no one would miss them in the least (well no one > except the STATEST). Yeah, Blacks could go back to being niggers. Women could go back to being barefoot and pregnant etc... Talk about statest. Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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Re: KKK derails crypto bill, report from House Judiciary... (fwd) (correction)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> > Subject: Re: KKK derails crypto bill, report from House Judiciary... (fwd) > Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:16:21 -0500 (CDT) > Constitutional Amendments are general passed by Congress. Hence, your > statement taken literaly is advocating a great deal of good that has come > from such actions. Insert 'eliminating' between 'advocating' and 'a great' on the second line.

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Videocrypt/Videocrypt2 any cryptanalytic results?
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has any progress been made in cryptanalysing the algorithms used in the european Videocrypt and Videocrypt2 standards used to encrypt satellite broadcasts? Particularly, is there any information I can obtain about the protocols, the data communicated between the decoder and card, and the algorithm itself. I am looking at the possibility of a new version of the "season" card simulator software created some time ago, which is now obselete, which used to be used against videocrypt broadcasts...

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Re: The Interlinked Cypherpunks Lists? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: The Interlinked Cypherpunks Lists? (fwd) > I wasn't advocating either: > > a) any "forcing" of anything > > b) any compliance with scripts, cooperation, etc. > > Instead, imagine this "service": > > - a distribution point (= list) which subscribes to all of the various > lists (cyberpass, algebra, ssz, etc.) > > - it sends out to subscribers the first instance of any message it receives > > - duplicates (see discussion below) would not be sent > > - it would, ideally, be on a robust machine > Exactly, pity that isn't what you stated in the first place. > >This again is anti-cpunks, it forces a level of cooperation and information > >sharing that is in direct opposition to beliefs in anonymity and privacy. > >I don't want it known who is subscribed to lists through SSZ, in short: > >It isn't any of your damn business and quit asking. > > No one has ever said you, or SSZ, or anyone, has to participate. Sorta defeats the whole concept of 'inter-linked lists' doesn't it? The point was to make it easy for ANYONE who wanted to participate. If you exclude parties because they won't do it 'your' way what is the difference? Nada, null, nill, zero, nothing. I can see it now; "oh, if you want to be a member you have to run this set of scripts that automaticaly subscribes you to the other lists and you can expect repeated querries of your subscription database. Oh, by the way you are also agreeing to have other lists subscribe and unsubscribe their user lists to your site at their operators whim. Oh yeah, and if they get really clever they can have you shipping subscription lists of your membership all over the place as well." Sounds so much like the FBI going to the library for loan records and denial of service attack it isn't even funny. Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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Public Key Break Paper
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In early April we posted a message which referred to William H. Payne's paper "Public Key Cryptography is Easy to Break." Mr. Payne has provided the 1990 5-page draft paper along with other documents, which we've added to the file at: http://jya.com/snlhit.htm The paper is part of several attachments supporting Mr. Payne's charge against Sandia National Laboratory. Other documents in the file help explain why the paper is sensitive to SNL and perhaps to NSA.

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