December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Judge Kozinski Responds
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Sep 16 17:18:36 1996 cypherpunks: I have been having a private e-mail conversation with Judge Alex Kozinski of the 9th circuit. Today he said: >Jim: Feel free to clarify my position to your comrades >(excuse the term) if you think it will be useful. I guess >I'll keep thinking about this stuff and may change my mind >on some things. ... In a previous message to me in response to cypherpunks messages mentioning him which I forwarded, he said: >The statement about anonymous remailers was largely >accurate. I'm not sure that the fact that you (or some of >your associates) are willing to block people from getting >anonymous mail is a sufficient safeguard. Some may not be, >and it only takes one or two who do not adhere to the code >to make life miserable for the rest of us. > >We agree about the need for privacy, but I'm not at all sure >why the right to send messages anonymously trumps the >recipient's right to know who's addressing him. Getting an >anonymous message--even one that is not harassing or >threatening--is an invasion of my privacy. As for Me: [Please note, this statement caused me to block his address from WinSock messages, but _NO_ I will not give you his e-mail address, so please do not ask me to unless I _know_ you are a remailer-operator, and you send me a PGPmessage including your key and asking for it for blocking reasons ONLY. So far, nobody has been stupid enough to try to use the remailers to harass him. I DON'T want this man harassed, and having him understand "our" point of view will be a "big cypherpunk win"(tm) IMNSHO, so please trust me to represent you fairly. Thanks.] On with the Judge: >Halloween, it only really works when the people dressed up >are about four feet tall. In the rare instances where there >have been adults at my door that were so disguised you >couldn't tell who they were, I felt threatened--kept my >Glock handy before opening door. > >The quote about morphed children's images was sort of >botched, as was my assessment of the Third Circuit's case. >What I said about children is that morphed images did not >involve normal exploitation of children so it would not >clearly fall in the unprotected category, but that there may >be other harms I'd have to think about before deciding. >As for the Third Circuit's opinion, I said at the outset >they got it right in the bottom line; what I criticized was >their use of analogies to deal with the problem. I find >that much thinking about the net is analogy-driven and that >analogies are inherently imprecise and can be misleading. > >Anyway, thanx for bearing with me. There's a lot of this >stuff I have not made up my mind about and I find talking >about it helps shape my thinking. Folks, we have a chance to win or lose, depending on list.maturity and common sense. If this man is harassed, convincing him will become harder for me, and I will be very annoyed. If you make a coherent comment that covers ground that I have not already covered with him, I will forward it on to him. Alex Kozinski is IMO, by far, the closest thing to a libertarian that Reagan ever appointed, and in both messages he has mentioned having an open mind. Let's try not to give him a reason to close it. Thanks for trusting me, and thanks in advance for behaving nicely and respecting the judge's privacy. JMR Regards, Jim Ray -- DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy "As govt.s grow arithmetically, corruption grows exponentially." -- Ray's Law of official corruption. Defeat the Duopoly! Stop the Browne out. Harry Browne for President. Jo Jorgensen for Vice-president. http://www.HarryBrowne96.org/ http://www.twr.com/stbo ___________________________________________________________________ PGP id.E9BD6D35 51 5D A2 C3 92 2C 56 BE 53 2D 9C A1 B3 50 C9 C8 I will generate a new (and bigger) PGP key-pair on election night. <mailto:liberty@gate.net> http://www.shopmiami.com/prs/jimray ___________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMj3ENG1lp8bpvW01AQEOBAP+IExjfTO6DnrBvF8/xNFWLDcYTgIid5tI Gpya0oRKRFIgYm2v3pjw2y649QxC8bGryy15wi72s6p4f1Sf6pqKbOz6ANcHNkOK JoenVAMBxKK4wwoDIzqkxPBBIBmQO/KzJBw5ymfhGMZNN+NN6nwS9JnlSKeDwFtO 94BZLZ2fec4= =IS+5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Workers Paradise. /Political rant.
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:08 PM 9/14/96, Asgaard wrote: >The problem with the 100% market economy approach is what to do >with those who just can't get it together, i.e. who buy beer for the >money that should go to health insurance and then fall ill. It's >against basic human instincts to just let them stay in agony. I have no problem with letting them stay in agony (but you all knew this). "Saving for a rainy day," whether saving, investing, getting an education (while others are out partying), preparing, etc., all takes effort and commitment. If those who save and prepare are then told they have to pay high taxes to support those who partied....well, the predictable effect is that many of them will say "I'll just party and let The System take care of me." Thus, the effect of "not letting them stay in agony" is _more_ people in agony. When you tell people that a compassionate society will meet their basic needs, a predictable fraction of them will choose not to work hard and prepare themselves. I say we need to let about 20 million Americans, and a couple of billion in the rest of the world, meet their fate. While I will not _actively_ seek to dispose of them, I will work to make sure they cannot continue to subsidize their lives at my expense. Crypto Anarchy means getting rid of deadwood the old-fashioned way. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Unsolicited email advertising already illegal in US?
by Ian Goldberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This piece from RISKS looks interesting. My computer certainly _is_ "equipment which has the capacity to transcribe text or images (or both) from an electronic signal received over a regular telephone line onto paper." Now, are HipCrime et al. liable for $500 in damages for each piece of spam? If so, where do I sign up? - Ian - ---8<---8<--- Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:46:42 -0400 From: Dan Franklin <dan(a)copernicus.bbn.com> Subject: Sometimes junk e-mail is already a fax, legally speaking I've been using the following legal information, which I picked up from another mailing list (Keith Bostic's /dev/null list), in my responses to junk e-mail these days. So far I haven't yet received junk e-mail on my home computer while it had a printer attached, but one of these days... Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C): "It shall be unlawful for any person within the United States to use any telephone facsimile machine, computer, or other device to send an unsolicited advertisement to a telephone facsimile machine" A "telephone facsimile machine" is defined in Sec.227(a)(2)(B) as: "equipment which has the capacity to transcribe text or images (or both) from an electronic signal received over a regular telephone line onto paper." Under this definition, an e-mail account, modem, computer and printer together constitute a fax machine. The rights of action are as follows. Under Sec.227(b)(3)(B): "A person or entity may, if otherwise permitted by the laws or rules of court of a State, bring in an appropriate court of that State -- (A) an action based on a violation of this subsection or the regulations prescribed under this subsection to enjoin such violation, (B) an action to recover for actual monetary loss from such a violation, or to receive $500 in damages for each such violation, whichever is greater, or (C) both such actions. If the court finds that the defendant willfully or knowingly violated this subsection or the regulations prescribed under this subsection, the court may, in its discretion, increase the amount of the award to an amount equal to not more than 3 times the amount available under subparagraph (B) of this paragraph." For the full legal text USC Title 47, Section 227, see: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html Dan Franklin dfranklin(a)bbn.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMj3MlEZRiTErSPb1AQFSIgP/SKn68eix0cgOMa2QgOsAJ7IePBZitECs 1KflgL0ziSW9D5JBhYmjAfl3UoFF7UJ1vyROFUV7sgBB1PSXGAvBGycSqrIhciPh Fm/73HUT0pr4foyTAPOndhAOx3ls61+kT497TUx+BecPhtfI41Mu0zTdPaZdWogP vaxfu97SuWw= =OC/R -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: Workers Paradise. /Political rant.
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jbugden(a)smtplink.alis.ca wrote: > By spreading the risk you minimize the cost. m5(a)tivoli.com wrote: >Yea right. Actually, yes. Canada has a single payer system and we spend about two thirds as much as the U.S. on health care as a percentage of G.N.P. We manage to insure all Canadians while about 35% of people in the U.S. have *no* health insurance. Yes, the insurance premium is not optional. Yes, it *is* cheaper. Ciao, James

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Free RSA chip
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I secured a 30 page data sheet for the new NTT (actually NLC, a subsidiary of NTT) RSA accelerator chips. The NLC0048 LSI chip can handle keys up to 1024 bits. The secret key can be stored on-chip. If you want a copy of the data sheet, email me your fax number. Furthermore, I have *one* sample chip that I am willing to loan to somebody in the SF Bay Area with sufficient hardware knowledge to put the chip to good use. If you think you qualify, let me know who you are and why you think that you should get the chip. I apologize in advance to the qualified candidates that do not get the chip. There is only one (that I can loan out). --Lucky

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RE: Workers Paradise. /Political rant.
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:00 AM 9/16/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >As to the "social safety net," things are far, far beyond a simple safety >net. When 14-year-old pregnant inner city girls are given money to set up >their own households (cf. Charles Murray's "Losing Ground"), this is not a >"safety net," this is subsidized breeding. A friend of mine (who can be just as coarse as I) calls them "Welfare-powered bastard factories." Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Edited Edupage, 15 Sept 1996
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"educom(a)educom.unc.edu" 16-SEP-1996 10:15:59.50 >To: IN%"edupage(a)elanor.oit.unc.edu" "EDUCOM Edupage Mailing List" >************************************************************ >Edupage, 15 September 1996. Edupage, a summary of news about information >technology, is provided three times a week as a service by Educom, >a Washington, D.C.-based consortium of leading colleges and universities >seeking to transform education through the use of information technology. >************************************************************ >SATELLITE BROADCASTERS MUST PROVIDE EDUCATION, TOO >A federal appeals court in Washington has ruled that any company providing >direct broadcast satellite (DBS) services must "reserve a portion of its >channel capacity, equal to not less than 4 percent nor more than 7 percent, >exclusively for noncommercial programming of an educational or information >nature," in compliance with regulations drafted by the FCC to enforce laws >enacted in 1984 and 1992. The unanimous decision rejected arguments by Time >Warner and other broadcasters that the law interfered with their First >Amendment rights. "It is the right of the viewers and listeners, not the >right of the broadcasters, which is paramount," said the court, quoting a >1969 Supreme Court ruling. (Chronicle of Higher Education 13 Sep 96 A29) Bloody socialist Supreme Court... sell the _full_ rights, then use the money to reduce taxes. >SYSTEM CRACKER GOT RECIPE FROM HACKER MAGAZINE >The person who disabled New York's Panix Internet service probably followed >the line-by-line instructions for doing so that appeared in the latest issue >of 2600 magazine, the Hacker's Quarterly. "We need to educate the community >that it's very, very simple to cause massive mayhem," says 2600's editor, >who defended his editorial judgment. "A lot of companies subscribe to us so >they can learn before they're victimized." Panix's co-owner says he >supports 2600's right to publish such information: "As a matter of >principle I don't think they should have been stopped," but adds that unlike >most other recipes for breaching security published in the magazine, this >one has no known technical defense. (Wall Street Journal 13 Sep 96 B5) Helpful to quote Panix on it. >Edupage is written by John Gehl <gehl(a)educom.edu> & Suzanne Douglas ><douglas(a)educom.edu>. Voice: 404-371-1853, Fax: 404-371-8057. >Technical support is provided by Information Technology Services at the >University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. >*********************************************************** >Edupage ... is what you've just finished reading. To subscribe to Edupage: >send mail to: listproc(a)educom.unc.edu with the message: subscribe edupage >Henry R. Luce (if your name is Henry R. Luce; otherwise, substitute your >own name). ... To cancel, send a message to: listproc(a)educom.unc.edu with >the message: unsubscribe edupage. (If you have subscription problems, send >mail to manager(a)educom.unc.edu.)

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Why organizations turn statist.
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:44 AM 9/11/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: > A wonderful idea, Stephan! You might try contacting > EFF to see if a German branch exists The EFF is ultimately a business lobby group, because it gets most of its funding from businesses. It is therefore potentially subject to the same corruption as other business lobbies. Business lobby groups are intermediaries, and therefore serve two masters, both the politicians and the businessmen, not one master. Frequently they serve the interests of the politicians at the expense of their donors, at the expense of the goals that the lobby group is supposed to pursue. Suppose for example you have a lobby group that represents the widget industry. On the one hand, the CEO of General Widgets might ring them up and say: "We are being trashed by these great japanese widgets, and unless something is done about it we might have to reduce prices or improve quality", and the lobby organization has a little chat with some tame politicians about the terrible suffering the Japanese are inflicting on American workers. That is the way lobby groups are supposed to work, but seldom do. On the other hand sometimes the politician (or a gofer on his staff), rings the lobby and says: "I need a million dollars fast: What potential political action gets the chairman of General Widgets waking up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night? What could destroy the widget industry, and yet be politically feasible?" Shortly thereafter the lobbyist has a little chat with chairman of General Widgets about forthcoming legislation. The lobby group gets a big bag of money, some of which it passes on to the politician, and the threatened legislation evaporates until the next election. To be a successful lobby group, the EFF needs to get its fingerprints on legislation, so that it can make threats and promises to businessmen in the computer industry. Thus the EFF's best interests as an organization are contrary to our desires and contrary to the announced aims of the organization. Legislation, any legislation, is in their interests and legislation, any legislation is against our interests. Our interests, and the EFF's interest are opposed with no apparent mutual good possible. Now it is possible that the EFF is virtuously pursuing its supposed goals, rather than its practical interests. We should consider the available evidence in order to infer what it is in fact up to. According to Dave Barry the word "politics" derives from the Greek "poly" meaning many, and "ticks" meaning small disgusting bloodsucking parasites. In order to be well funded, the EFF needs government regulation of the net. The kind of regulation that would be most effective in ensuring large donations would be regulation that compels internet businessmen to lobby the government. for example regulations that make impossible, inconsistent, and contradictory requirements on those who provide software, hardware, and services, for example a demand that big companies police the net in ways that even governments would find extremely difficult, such as the British child porn crackdown, or legislation which if properly crafted would have the effect of giving some businessmen a monopoly of some aspect of the net, and putting other businessmen out of business, for example legislation that requires case by case approval of software, or legislation that compels the businessman to invade his customers privacy, and also prohibits him from invading that privacy unless he has a waiver issued by the state. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: Snake Oil FAQ 0.4 [comments appreciated]
by David K. Merriman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Sep 16 12:05:17 1996 > (First off, I'd like to thank Matt for doing this.) > > The key length stuff is good, but a common component of snake oil is > that it claims to have very long key sizes. > > | Some ciphers, while currently secure against most attacks, are not > | considered viable in the next few years because of relatively small > keysizes > | and increasing processor speeds (making a brute-force attacks > feasible). The > | tables below should give some general guidelines for making intelligent > | decisions about the key length you need. If the key is too short, the > system > | will be easily broken, even if the cipher is a good one. > | > | In [1] and [2], we're presented with some guidelines for deciding > | appropriate key length. (It is important to note that this is based on > the > | ability to predict computing power 40, 65, and 100 years from now. > Major > | breakthroughs in computing power 30 years from now might render > everything > | on this chart kiddieplay.) > > | * One-Time-Pads > | > | A vendor might claim the system uses a one-time-pad (OTP), which > is > | theoretically unbreakable. That is, snake-oil sellers will try > to > | capitalize on the known strength of a OTP. It is important to > | understand that any variation in the implementation means that it > is > | not an OTP, and has nowhere near the security of an OTP. > | > | A OTP system is not an algorithm. It works by having a "pad" of > random > | bits in the possession of both the sender and recipient. The > message is > | encrypted using the next n bits in the pad as they key, where n > is the > | number of bits in the message. After the bits are used from the > pad, > | they're destroyed, and can never again be used. The bits in the > pad > | must be truly random, generated using a real random source, such > as > | specialized hardware, radioactive decay timings, etc., and not > from an > | algorithm or cipher. Anything else is not a one-time-pad. > > The phrase easy-to-use should not appear in proximity to one > time pad, except in the context 'Easier key management than a one time > pad!" > I would also suggest that the generation of OTP 'pads' for users is *highly* questionable. Who else is getting a copy of them, assuming they're even valid? Dave Merriman - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PGP Email welcome, encouraged, and PREFERRED. Visit my web site at http://www.shellback.com/p/merriman for my PGP key and fingerprint "What is the sound of one hand clapping in a forest with no one there to hear it?" I use Pronto Secure (tm) PGP-fluent Email software for Windows -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMjzSBMVrTvyYOzAZAQGVwQP+N6vjyniDH0ad3G8dWu1cPHi5yfvksbS7 EJmgpSVTlaLf1Kp7rX2zBULxKvd2bqN3z3tAhj6reeG8la+P3Skw9gPJS8ggYvOn cXwdRsCyRICgHYMcbaEB/91YsJMweYyzWLe2JZazs3NfsafxdNKerGR7kvoQF0bG oBNR169sGlo= =WqlN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: Workers Paradise. /Political rant.
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) wrote: >"Saving for a rainy day," whether saving, investing, getting an education (while others are out partying), preparing, etc., all takes effort and commitment. If those who save and prepare are then told they have to pay high taxes to support those who partied....well, the predictable effect [...] is _more_ people in agony. When you tell people that a compassionate society will meet their basic needs, a predictable fraction of them will choose not to work hard and prepare themselves. Two questions, two observations: Do you have health insurance? Do you have life insurance? I have commented on your line of reasoning before and and it still seems to me that an important part of the discussion is missed. Specifically, that anyone can "save for a rainy day" and still not be able to provide for events that can always happen: Heart attack, stroke, car accident, pinched nerve that leaves you in excruciating pain and unable to work for several years. I don't think that a reasonable person would argue that medical insurance should be outlawed because everyone should take care of their own needs. A social safety net is simply a form of health and life insurance. Statistical arbitrage if you will. By spreading the risk you minimize the cost. Yes, some people will take advantage of the system. But like a virus, a robust system should be able to withstand this form of attack. I'm reminded of a Bloom County cartoon with Opus, Steve Dallas and Bill the cat sitting on a park bench as a jogger runs past. he derides the trio saying, "I jog three miles and work out every day, eat only healthy foods, and have regular medical checkups. I'll live twice as long as you lazy slobs." In the next panel the jogger is hit by lightning as the trio on the bench look on in shock. The last panel: "Here's to no guarantees!" and "Pass the ding dongs." Prend soin, James [Bible excerpt awaiting review as a motivation for human decency.] The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? [excerpted from Luke 12:16-20, King James Version]

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