December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Tolerance
by Chris Adams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just a comment to all of the 'true libertarians' out there, especially the "defend to the death" types: How many of you defended Mr. Sternlight's recent membership? # Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> - Webpages for sale! Se habla JavaScript! # Automatically receive my resume or PGPKEY by sending email with a subject # of 'send PGPKEY' or 'send resume'. Capitalization counts so be careful! # Web site: http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htm

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Re: Welcome Back
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:52 PM 8/1/96 -0400, Brian Davis wrote: >> Do you have an honest job or are you still taking the King's Shilling? > >I have opened a law practice. Just this morning, I visited a client (in >jail) charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine ... in other words, >one of the Four Horsemen. They checked me for weapons, etc., upon entry, >but no one asked about any cryptographic munitions. Joke of the day: A swarthy fellow was in jail, and was visited by his sister and nerd brother in law. He tells them, "next time you show up, bring me something with a file in it." His bro in law brought a floppy disk... Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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POLL
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, The electronic newsletter put out by the TV show, C-NET Central, had this item in the most recent issue: ------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. "YOUR TURN": SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO READ BOMB-MAKING INFO? The United States and seven other governments are moving to "felonize" distribution of bomb-making information on the Net and other electronic media. Yet censorship of the Net was recently dealt a double blow by twin defeats of the Communications Decency Act. Is this strictly a free speech issue? Or is there a difference in your mind between pictures of naked people and blueprints for a pipe bomb? And can the Net know the difference? To contribute your opinion, phone CNET at 415/395-7805, enter extension 5400, and leave a message. We'll listen to the responses and broadcast some of the best on CNET radio. Each week Digital Dispatch brings you the new "your turn" question, and each Wednesday you can hear the responses to the previous week's question on CNET radio: http://www.cnet.com/Content/Radio/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Some of you may have a comment about this subject. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Tolerance
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:46 PM 8/1/96, Chris Adams wrote: >Just a comment to all of the 'true libertarians' out there, especially >the "defend to the death" types: How many of you defended Mr. >Sternlight's recent membership? > I certainly did, as you all know. But, to clear things up, I don't think I've ever in my life uttered the phrase "defend to my death your right...." (I don't think asking the 1000+ members of this list to say one way or another is a good idea.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Viet Nam Considered Less Harmful than Cambodia
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(Welcome back, David...I haven't seen you post in a long while) At 6:44 AM 8/1/96, David K. Merriman wrote: >Were a government - duly elected - to come into power similar to that in >30's Germany or 70's Viet Nam, so that intellectuals or the educated >became the targets of oppression, would she be as adamant about the >perceived "rights" of Government to intrude in her private life, monitor >her communications, and so on? Though I am no defender of the People's Benovolent and Democratic Government of Viet Nam, I think you must be thinking of Cambodia. It was Cambodia, in the form of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, which decided to exterminate all educated persons (except themselves, of course). Those wearing eyeglasses were considered Enemies of the People, because presumably they knew how to read. Compared to Cambodia, Viet Nam was a paradise. In fact, I cheered in '79 when Viet Nam invaded Cambodia. --Tim May, who wonders if anyone with access to the Net will become part of the mountains of skulls in Pax Americana Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Freeh slimes again: Digital Telephony costs $2 billion now ...
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:58 PM 8/1/96, Ernest Hua wrote: >Louis Freeh is now asking the Congress for $2 billion to fund >Digital Telephony. Yes, that is FOUR TIMES what he said it >would cost the taxpayers to give up their own privacy. Score >one for the cynics who said $500 million was not enough. And when this $2 B is defeated by encryption, look for dramatic, drastic, and draconian restrictions on crypto. (With the Internet Phone deals--even Intel is entering the market--why are there no widespread uses of PGP or S/MIME? Yes, I know about about PGPhone, and also the Nautilus product, but none seem to be used by anyone I know. Maybe we should spend some time talking about the practical realities of these tools.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Is 1024-bit PGP key enough?
by Geoffrey C. Grabow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 15:38 08/01/96 PDT, Jim Gillogly wrote: > >Somebody says: >>> Is security provided by 1024-bit PGP key sufficient against most powerful >>> computers that are available today? Say if smoe organization spent 10 >>> billions of dollars on a cracking machine, would it be possible to crack >>> the keys in reasonable time? > >Derek Atkins <warlord(a)MIT.EDU> responds with some useful and authoritative >information -- thanks. > Also, remember that although the PGP key is 1024 bits, it generates a much smaller IDEA key with 56 bits (I think... anyone?). The 56 bit key is vunerable to that $1 mil mystery machine that the NSA may or may not have. G.C.G. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Geoffrey C. Grabow | Great people talk about ideas. | | Oyster Bay, New York | Average people talk about things. | | gcg(a)pb.net | Small people talk about people. | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | PGP 2.6.2 public key available at http://www.pb.net/~wizard | | and on a plethora of key servers around the world. | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | That which does not kill us, makes us stranger. - Trevor Goodchild | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Jewell is the Militia Bomber!!!!
by JonWienk＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 01 Aug 1996, Gary Howland <gary(a)systemics.com> wrote: >jim bell wrote: >> >> At 07:49 PM 7/31/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >> > >> >2. They found a _shotgun_ in his cabin. >> >> No, no, Tim. The proper way to deliver this to a TV audience is, "They >> found an ARSENAL in his COMPOUND!" > >Alternatively, describe the shotgun as a 50 caliber cannon. > >Gary [snip] Actually, a 12-gage shotgun is approximately .73 caliber. Maybe it was a 16-gage? BTW, many "real terrorist incidents" are acknowledged by the group committing them, so that they will win support for their "cause," or notoriety, or whatever other gratification their sick minds might derive from carnage. The fact that no one has claimed responsibility for the bombing skews the perpetrator probabilities more toward a single disturbed individual or a Reichstag rehash. Ernest Hua (hua(a)chromatic.com) wrote: >: How does one verify that an IP address is coming from a U.S. site? >: How do most FTP site (e.g. those which carry crypto) determine the >: origins of a connection? >What's the use ? It makes it only nominally more difficult to access >an US crypto site, one needs first to esthablish an US beachhead ie. >open an US account, and ftp the eleet crypto warez using the newly >created US account as an intermediary. >So the next step will be a tag that a user is an 'alien' ? [snip] The chupa-cabras, Grays, and the Art Bell Fan Club would file an EEOC class-action lawsuit, citing preferential treatment for beings that "the average citizen" actually BELIEVES in. More lawyer-bait. Jonathan Wienke "1935 will go down in history! For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead in the future!" --Adolf Hitler "46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. ...Consider the following statement: I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government." --The 29 Palms Combat Arms Survey http://www.ksfo560.com/Personalities/Palms.htm 1935 Germany = 1996 U.S.? Key fingerprint = 30 F9 85 7F D2 75 4B C6 BC 79 87 3D 99 21 50 CB

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Re: Is 1024-bit PGP key enough?
by Anonymous User 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> But the original author also needs to step back and understand his > security needs. In particular, if you're trying to protect your > information against an enemy who is willing to spend $10B to get it, > they'll have a lot of options other than hiding in a back room with some > cracking equipment. Would you be willing to sell them the information > you're trying to protect for (say) 10% of that $10B? Would your partner? > Your wife? The idea is simple. Since it is easy to increase the size of the pgp key -- certainly easier than improving my wife -- it is not uneconomical to be a little overly paranoid over the size of my key. All it costs me is a couple of seconds of CPU time!

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South Florida Cypherpunks Meeting
by Joey Grasty 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Y'all: The South Florida Cypherpunks will meet at Hops Grill & Bar in Boynton Beach, FL on Saturday, August 17 at 2:00 PM. As always, our meeting place is at a microbrewery, and this one has some very fine brews. In addition, the Cypherpunks Brewmaster, Jim Ray, is brewing up a special "summer dark" brew for the meeting. We will enjoy his swill^H^H^H^H^Hfine beer at my house following the meeting.* I'll post directions to Hops as we get closer to the meeting time and put a map on my web page at: http://www.c2.net/~winsock/ Please send me a note if you plan to attend so that I can alert the NSA^H^H^Hrestaurant on how many will attend. Send me your key and fingerprint for keysigning if it hasn't been signed by any subversives^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcypherpunks before. * All joking aside, Jim is a very fine brewmaster. I just wish he'd spend a few bucks and ferment in something other than 2 liter coke bottles that explode in someone's truck... Regards, -- Joey Grasty jgrasty(a)gate.net [home -- encryption, privacy, RKBA and other hopeless causes] jgrasty(a)pts.mot.com [work -- designing pagers] "Anyone who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin." -- John Von Neumann PGP = A7 CC 31 E4 7E A3 36 13 93 F4 C9 06 89 51 F5 A7

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