December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Reputation Webs and Java/Applet Security
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:10 PM 5/4/96, Blake Coverett wrote: >I was right in the first message... it is a reputation thing. We don't >disagree on any of the fact here, just on their implications. > >I see this from the point of view of the author of these native methods, >cypherpunk still do write code sometimes. From that point of view >where is the difference between calling my native code methods and >calling the java.awt.*, or netscape.* methods that are native code? Yes, >either can do anything they want, irregardless of the SecurityManager. > >For J. Random User on the net, Sun/Netscape's reputations are >fairly strong and mine is non-existent. For the corporate IS folks to >whom I contract this situation is reversed. (Despite impressive IPOs >I still get a lot of friction about 'programs downloaded from the net'.) By the way, I think "reputation webs" may get one of their earliest uses in this situation, with applets or chunks of code being "vouched for" by testing or credentialling agencies, analogous to Good Housekeeping Seals and Underwriter's Laboratories. (This model applies to more than just Java applets, of course. To some extent, reviews of programs and testing of snippets of code has always involved this "reputation rating" process...I'm just suggesting it could be implemented in-line with the runtime environment....) While we often talk about the human example, where we want to do nifty things like rank and rate the postings of J. Random User by what others we trust (or don't trust) are saying, the fact is that most people are willing to see what J. Random User is writing and judge for themselves. Hence, reputation markets (what I'm calling "reputation webs," as with "webs of trust") have been slow to take off in human communication circles. (At least automated, that is.) For Java applets, once digital signatures are supported we have the possibility of automating the checking of who has said good things about the applets, who has said bad things, how much faith we place in these opinions, and so on. Almost a class hierarchy in itself (though mix-ins might be useful, as the hierarchy is not strictly single-inheritance, it seems). Thus, the "Wall Street Testing Agency," with various stringent policies about what applets can do and what they must not be allowed to do, may have ratings of applets, keeping even Perry happy. Someone at a Wall Street firm could then screen out applets based on these ratings. Others might have completely different criteria. (And the web could change dynamically, as the user's environment changed. For example, a PC used largely for games will likely have a different model of whom to trust than a workstation used for high finance. And one could imagine moving sensitive files to a removable disk, popping out this disk, and then altering the settings to reflect a lower perceived risk.) Virus checking is to some extent already in this model, with "well-regarded" virus checkers acting as a gatekeeper of sorts. One might even (hopefully!) be able to integrate this directly into one's programming environment. Maybe the "SecurityManager" class could be turned into a "ReputationManager" class, with today's "SecurityManager" being just one of many possible configurations (e.g., the one JavaSoft is recommending). And the NSA and NCSC might have their own "Orange Book" sorts of requirements. Let a thousand flowers bloom...but keep track of their reputations. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: WWW proxies?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:30 AM 5/5/96 -0400, you wrote: >} Has anyone developed such a beast yet? > >I know of two anonymizing web proxies. See: >http://hplyot.obspm.fr:6661/ and: >http://anonymizer.cs.cmu.edu:8080/ anonymizer has moved to www.anonymizer.com:8080 (hosted on c2.org.) There's also the Great Web Canadianizer, if you don't mind reading pre-hosed web pages, eh? Anonymizer does a better job, fixing up things like REMOTE-HOST, REMOTE-ADDR and HTTP-COOKIE which pass some information about the originating system. HTTP-DONUT, eh? Also, Netscape 3.0 is a bit quieter than earlier versions. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Re: A MODEST PROPOSAL (fwd)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:05 PM 5/4/96 EDT, "E. ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH(a)mbcl.rutgers.edu> wrote: > The reason I say majordomo is broken is that it shows up > with the address of the original sender, not the address of the list, > as the From address. Other mailing list software does not do this. I think that's user-settable, but there is no ideal approach. Cypherpunks tried several different approaches to addresses, and settled on this one as causing the least overall problems. The big advantage is that replies go to the original sender by default rather than to the list (which reduces the amount of personal mail going to the list, winning both on noise-reduction and embarassment-reduction); the disadvantage is that bouncemail goes to the original sender, rather than the list or the list-manager (bouncemail to the sender is annoying, but minor; bouncemail to the list is extremely annoying, as well as potentially causing mail loops, which are an extreme lossage. Bouncemail to the list-manager is ideal (not that the list-manager usually reads it), but it's hard to get without reducing replies directly to originators, as well as increasing replies accidentally going to the list-manager. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Re: Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:31 PM 5/4/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >Not being prepared to risk imprisonment for tax evasion, and being desirous >of living in the United States rather than on a coral atoll, I answer the >questions that Macintax asks me, gulp when I see the final figure, and >write out a check (which I then have to sell even more stock to >cover...perpetuating the cycle). > >--Tim May The Transaction Records Clearinghouse has expanded their site on actual IRS criminal prosecutions into a neat table (for 1994) which shows: odds of referral (per million pop) 17 odds of conviction (per million pop) 8 odds of prison (per million pop) 4 # of referrals for prosecution 4,542 # convicted after prosecution 1,991 # sentenced to prison terms 957 population of federal district 260,340,990 http://www.trac.syr.edu/tracirs/analysis/IRS017tab.html For comparison, the annual risk of being murdered is about 80 per million (8 per 100,000). In addition, only 40% of the above refferals are for ordinary tax fraud and evasion. Sixty percent are for drug and money laundering kinds of offenses. Even though the population of those who regularly violate federal tax laws is smaller (20 million?) the records show that even for this population the odds of being convicted are approximately the odds of being nurdered. http://www.trac.syr.edu/tracirs/analysis/IRS019page.html Shows that the *median* prison sentence and *median* fine after conviction is Zero in both cases. DCF

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Web page for breaking commercial encryption?
by Vincent Cate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am looking for a web page that shows how to break the encryption in many commercial products. I have seen information on breaking a number of different products, but I can't find a web page that collects these methods into one place. Seems there should be such a page. Is there such a web page? If not, is anyone willing to start one and give me a URL? :-) Thanks, -- Vince PS This is just for a link in my web page, no I did not forget my lotus notes password or something. :-)

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