December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

"and two forms of ID"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:53 PM 2/21/96, Adam philipp wrote: > Don't forget to bring your public key fingerprint (and two forms of ID). >If you can figure out how to get a PGP fingerprint on the back of a business >card, that would be cool. This is an unusual development, asking for "two forms of ID." If I attend, can I use the "May Company" ID card I had printed up, or are only State of California and El Cajon Public Library cards accepted? We've had several key-signings in the Bay Area, and at none of the ones I've seen has there been any demand for "two forms of ID." In fact, I understand that some of the keys signed were for people whose nom de list differs from what Sacramento knows them by. Lucky Green might want to comment. This gets back to the familiar issue of what it is a name credential really means, and whether we care. --Tim May, the name I use for this list Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Internet Privacy Guaranteed ad (POTP Jr.)
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

IPG Sales <ipgsales(a)cyberstation.net> wrote: > See my reply to Tim Phillip - it is checked extensively > > If the algorithm sucks, prove it - please read the messages back and See my comment below. [..] > > [..] > > > In general, you will find the kernel of the propgations consists of 64 > > > equation sets of the form: > > > > > > Bi=(Bi+Ci MOD Di) Mod 256 Large prime numbers > > > ENCRYPTEXTi=OTP[Bi] XOR PLAINTEXTi Encryption > > > OTP[Bi]=ENCRYPTEXTi Makes the OTP Dynamic > > > > Bah. Looks to me like simple garbling, only using a large stream. > > > > Encrypt a stream of zeros with that method, and you'll get repeated > > strings of OTP[Bi]'s. An unsophisticated high school student could > > crack that.

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Re: Bravo, mostly (Re: Banned Zambian newspaper now on the Web)
by Frank Stuart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>[Please forward along to fight-censorship if non-redundant] > >I applaud your quick response. However, you should read more and consult >people with area expertise. At least do the five-minute AltaVista and >DejaNews search I did; don't just trust the information that gets sent to >you, or you're likely to be used. [...] Good advice. In this case, the copy of the banned issue of _The Post_ came from a confidential source, but I have reason to believe it is a true copy. I know very little about Zambia and had nothing to do with the additional commentary. | (Douglas) Hofstadter's Law: | It always takes longer than you expect, even Frank Stuart | when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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Re: "and two forms of ID"
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I'm sufficiently impressed with the arguments against name credentials >that Carl Ellison has made that I'm looking seriously into systems >that don't do any sort of conventional certificate binding at all... ... and I bet, Wei Dai's contentions to the contrary, that they'll be *cheaper* to use than those which do certificate binding, all other things being equal. Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/

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Re: Internet Privacy Guaranteed ad (POTP Jr.)
by stevenw＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Perry: > >"Stubborness and dogmatism are the surest signs of stupidity - is there > anything more resolute and disdainful than an ass!" Montaigne > >You have an yellow streak down your back infinitely wide - you may or >may not be a physical coward but you are certainly an intellectual coward >- you have the opportunity to save human lives, as you asserted and you >just brushed that asside - [etc. elided] My personal theory is that Perry has developed a particularly nasty form of multiple personality disorder and it is causing him to voraciously troll himself on this list. It's not going to be pretty, folks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Weller | "The Internet, of course, is more | than just a place to find pictures | of people having sex with dogs." stevenw(a)best.com | -- Time Magazine, 3 July 1995

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Portland Cypherpunks Get-Together
by Bruce Baugh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I just wanted to remind y'all that this Saturday is the second quasi-monthly Portland (OR) cypherpunks MST3K fest, key-signing, and general social event. E-mail for further information. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEQAwUBMSwOAn3AXR8sjiylAQHoHAfRAZ0NJpB/pzmKwwRtJJygkQfE4vLQxrO3 f51RlzysBE3u7OFGnNYmy8QLXzsaclppN0ssfbFkxs13vwgiztudl9D3LkGrdw44 HgRAAV+FTuuR+nzehOc3DHQDDnPLoXh7NrS+bYfYGHv2GB8OZYpFXD5VEirJFmEj uq7dEV4wy8+ml7BsMXxxZNwhP1ISRXvH9ODKLZnWx/6ngkFbzJBw1cvyHiuqjwRg 5HM31+HKSe5qi+Xx9ZlEfLY5d3U6HiN9cgKL+Jo301VGsZmEvIPyK0Yjyt4EUzgN 6vawqU6Kvzj76tOMe1lnUs3eSR4rUmNlaYXNRZuxy7FObqc= =uaR5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Bruce Baugh bruce(a)aracnet.com http://www.aracnet.com/~bruce

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RE: Internet Privacy Guaranteed
by Blake Coverett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Err... okay, maybe I don't have this figured out. Still sounds like OTPs, >and someone selling random data at $15 a pop per month. Having multiple >floppies mailed to me monthly, with all the inherent difficulties, sounds >like a lot more work than public-key management. My bozometer is pegged. It gets even worse by my reading of this thread. They send out the first lot of pseudo-OTP via some *nominally* secure channel, but then the send you the subsequent months via the Internet. (Presumably encrypted with one of your existing keys.) This adds up to a system that isn't event a pseudo-OPT. It's just a conventional rotor-based cryptosystem, with an unevaluated implementation. Break one message containing a batch of new keys and the entire system is defeated forever. -Blake

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Telephone card tech. howto needed
by Kristian Sagi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello guys ! Here is used such telephone cards like this one here ... Sorry , not very good picture here ;-) ... In the middle of this plastic card /------------\ is a chip ... See this picture here : | | | | | | [1] [2] [3] [4] | | | | | | | | | | | | | ___ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | [ Chip ] | ----- | | \ | | | \ \------------/ | | | | [5] [6] [7] [8] As you see this chip has 6 legs ... and telephone card has 8 connectors ... Only 6 are connected ... Has anyone ideas, how this card works ... i mean something like telephone card hardware tutorials or something ... I have some ideas ... There is a something : when disconnect connector number [8] then The machine can't decrement the money value in card ... maybe he reads the value.. then he decrement the value in card , then reads "the new value" and if comparing between the old and the new value are the same , then machine disconnects he's telephone line ... Ok ... this is only one point ... But i want to know how this tech. works ... Anything is welcome ... please ... BTW Don't put answers to here , please mail-to me : sagi(a)physic.ut.ee Kristian

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Internet shutdown Feb 29?
by David E. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This looks completely, totally, and insanely bogus, but I need some kind of verification for this bizarre little piece of mail that somehow ended up in my mailbox. Anybody from MIT ever heard of "Kim Dereksen"? dave "I'm busy laughing, can you call back?" *** Attention *** It's that time again! As many of you know, each leap year the Internet must be shut down for 24 hours in order to allow us to clean it. The cleaning process, which eliminates dead email and inactive ftp, www and gopher sites, allows for a better-working and faster Internet. This year, the cleaning process will take place from 12:01 a.m. GMT on Feb. 29 until 12:01 a.m. GMT on March 1. During that 24-hour period, five powerful Internet-crawling robots situated around the world will search the Internet and delete any data that they find. In order to protect your valuable data from deletion we ask that you do the following: 1. Disconnect all terminals and local area networks from their Internet connections. 2. Shut down all Internet servers, or disconnect them from the Internet. 3. Disconnect all disks and hardrives from any connections to the Internet. 4. Refrain from connecting any computer to the Internet in any way. We understand the inconvenience that this may cause some Internet users, and we apologize. However, we are certain that any inconveniences will be more than made up for by the increased speed and efficiency of the Internet, once it has been cleared of electronic flotsam and jetsam. We thank you for your cooperation. Kim Dereksen Interconnected Network Maintenance staff Main branch, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Sysops and others: Since the last Internet cleaning, the number of Internet users has grown dramatically. Please assist us in alerting the public of the upcoming Internet cleaning by posting this message where your users will be able to read it. Please pass this message on to other sysops and Internet users as well. Thank you. ----- David E. Smith, c/o Southeast Missouri State University 1000 Towers Circle South MS 1210 Cape Girardeau MO 63701 dsmith(a)midwest.net, dave(a)nym.alias.net, PGP 0x961D2B09 (573)339-3814 http://www.midwest.net/scribers/dsmith/ "Reality is only for those lacking in true imagination."

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Re: Easy Nuclear Detonator
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:56 PM 2/21/96 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: >On Sun, 18 Feb 1996, jim bell wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> At 10:25 PM 2/18/96 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >> > I've been kind of busy recently (the reason I haven't responded to >> >the more recent Assasination Politics stuff), but I'm curious what >> >your method is for achieving simultaneous explosions. >> >> >> "Multiple very thin flexible hollow tubes (1 mm ID? teflon?) filled with a >> homogenous liquid >> explosive (for example, pure nitromethane), length accurately cut to produce >> the exactly desired delay. Kept separated from each other by foam spacers >> to avoid inter-fiber detonations. Detonated from a single cap, with an >> intermediary chamber of liquid explosive to stabilize the shock front, the >> detonation wave travels along each tube simultaneously at (presumably) >> identical velocity." > >This method is so dependent on the uniformity of the initiator (the cap >in this instance) as to be nearly useless. Normal blasting caps do not >detonate with the uniformity required to initiate each of the tube paths >at the same time. In the off chance that you contemplated surrounding >the cap with liquid explosive of a sufficent type, (which still wouldn't >assure proper uniformity with any certainty as the liquid explosive is as >likely to detonate slightly off left to right as up to down) you still have >extremely difficult problems to overcome. Re-read my whole statement. I copy the relevant commentary that you sloppily forgot to read: >> Detonated from a single cap, with an >> intermediary chamber of liquid explosive to stabilize the shock front, I already entirely anticipated your objection. And destroyed it. >1> Interference from the milling shape and accuracy of the openings to >the tubes containing the liquid explosive. Quantify, quantify. How much of a problem? (Hint: If you seriously believed there was a problem with this idea, you would be able to give a few examples on how to avoid them. Reading your commentary, you did none of this. >2> Mild to obscure impurities in the liquid explosives causing >differences in velocity with respect to other tubes. All the tubes can be filled at the last minute by pulling a vacuum on the system and letting atmospheric pressure fill all the tubes. No impurities, or at least it's a perfectly homogeneous mixture. > Even small changes >in pressures within the tubes might cause enough timing problems to make >uniform initiation of the primary high explosive assembly impossible. "might"? Well, could you be more specific? How many nanoseconds would be too many? >3> Interference from the milling shape and accuracy of the terminus of >the tubes containing the liquid explosive. So what's your point? >4> Overpressure in the device causing premature detonation of the near >portion of the high explosive assembly. Sure about that? >All of these might cause enough timing error to prevent uniform pressure >and thus prevent uniform compression and make supercriticality impossible. Pigs might fly. >Remember, kryonic switiches are necessary even when dealing with the >speeds of electric conductivity. The velocities of even hydrazine based >explosives are signigicantly lower. The margin for error is similarly lower. How low? Be specific. >Plutonium gun is still the easiest method for the home grown nuclear >device, even if it requires more fissile material. The "gun" design wasn't used with the plutonium, because IT WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED! "Fat Man," the bomb dropped on Nagasaki, used the implosion method. "Little Boy," the gun-method bomb, used U-235. Plutonium detonates far too rapidly to use the "gun" method. The scientists knew that in 1945. You seem to be at least 50 years behind the times. Sheesh! I guess we now know what field YOU don't know about, huh? Or, perhaps more likely, this is a specific DIS-information campaign. You want someone to waste a critical-mass worth of plutonium.

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