December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

ANNOUNCE: NEW MIXMASTER REMAILER
by lead remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello all, I am pleased to announce a new mixmaster remailer. This remailer was compiled and installed primarily using the mix-installer script available from Adam Shostack. To get the script, send a message to adam(a)lighthouse.homeport.org with Subject: get mix-installer. here is the relevant info: address: mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu long name: lead remailer short name: lead for your type2.list file: lead mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu a76c3fda7294a6695c5e6a931d1c0b73 2.0.3 Here is the public key for lead remailer: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= lead mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu a76c3fda7294a6695c5e6a931d1c0b73 2.0.3 -----Begin Mix Key----- a76c3fda7294a6695c5e6a931d1c0b73 258 AATH5fR56oEcdVRNn2SrjJ4XsoWb+lP2E2GgGdgI 2A3//3ctBkQ13xb5MHOfix8ra63PZmeCrK+6QbbV Ql1iwboMMaWz8NPmNpQz2K0/vnTnp8tWEyL5vo95 jlRmACXPefXdLOzszAgfMn02rzzXrq+9AnaUAUxD idxVglBkXRkriwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAB -----End Mix Key----- Here is the mix-help file: From: mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu (Mixmaster remailer at zifi) Subject: Instructions for using anonymous remailer This message is being sent to you automatically in response to the message you sent to mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu with subject "remailer-help". This is a Mixmaster remailer. It provides an extremely high level of security. To use it, you must have a client program to produce the messages. This software is available from ftp://flame.alias.net:/pub/replay/pub/remailer Read the README file for instructions. Some information can be sent to you by the remailer by including the following commands (one per message) in the subject line of mail to the remailer. remailer-help This file. remailer-stats Useage statistics for the last 24 hours. remailer-key The mixmaster key file for this remailer. This section of the helpfile is blatantly plagarized from the mixmaster faq located at: http://www.obscura.com/~loki/remailer/mixmaster-faq.html. --- What is Mixmaster? Mixmaster is a new class of anonymous remailers. Inspired by the existing "cypherpunk" remailers and discussions on the Cypherpunk mailing list. Mixmaster is the next generation in the evolution of remailer technology. What is an anonymous remailer? Quoting from Andre Bacard's remailer FAQ: An anonymous remailer (also called an "anonymous server") is a free computer service that privatizes your e-mail. A remailer allows you to send electronic mail to a Usenet news group or to a person without the recipient knowing your name or your e-mail address. What do I need to use Mixmaster remailers? Unlike other remailers, you can't just make your own message and send it to the remailer. Mixmaster's security comes in part from using a special message format. The disadvantage of this is that you need a special program to make the message for you. Once you have that program (the client) remailing is as easy as running the program, and telling it which remailers you want to use. How do I get the Mixmaster client software? There are two sites for distribution. First, is ftp to obscura.com and read /pub/remail/README.no-export. The other is by anonymous ftp to jpunix.com. You will have to follow the instructions there to get Mixmaster. Because Mixmaster contains cryptography, it may not be exported from the U.S and Canada. The reason for the circuitous route to download Mixmaster is to show my good faith efforts to keep Mixmaster from being exported. I have heard rumors that someone has already broken this law, and that Mixmaster is available from Europe. I do not approve of this and will not support that site. Does Mixmaster use PGP? No, Mixmaster uses the rsaref package from RSA. Mixmaster uses its own keys and key file formats. To add a key to a key ring, simply append the key to your key file using your favorite text editor. Can mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu post to News? No. News posting is not supported at this time. Abuse Policy: I consider the following to be inappropriate use of this anonymous remailer, and will take steps to prevent anyone from doing any of the following: - Sending messages intended primarilly to be harassing or annoying. - Use of the remailer for any illegal purpose. If you don't want to receive anonymous mail, send me a message, and I will add your email address to the block list.

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No Subject
by anon-remailer＠utopia.hacktic.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Bell writes: >I notice that you responded through an anonymous remailer, and didn't even >use a nym. This is strange. No it isn't. You run around talking about killing people anonymously, but have trouble with anonymous harsh words? Color me unimpressed. I might be someone you know. I might be a plant. I might be something else. Doesn't matter. The words are the words and stand on their own. >> are often that way because we think the *means* the State uses are evil, >not to be excused by any amount of >mumbo-jumbo. > >I think the state's ENDS are evil, too, not merely their MEANS. I have no argument here. But good ends do not execuse bad means. And killing people who are not an immediate threat to you (or someone in your immediate vicinity) is a bad idea. Play the game of the State and become just like it. >Actually, if you followed my arguments carefully, you will notice that my >position is most accurately described by pointing out that I _could_not_ >keep you from participating in this "immoral game", even if I wanted to. You also didn't mention the problem of fraud. I set up A. Nony Mouse's Hired Guns Service. You pay me a lot of money to go off someone. I come back and say "Sorry, couldn't do it. Bad traffic." Then I wander off with the money. Who are you going to complain to? I have this sneaky feeling that damn few courts, Statist or otherwise, are going to get worked up over your loss. And since the whole thing's done anonymously, you are left without a leg to stand on. Assassination Politics -> Scam-O-Rama. >For the record, I suspect some people who are total pacifists view the rest >of us, those willing use use violence to defend ourselves, as "immoral." I agree. But then I'm not a total pacifist. Self-defense is an inherent right. Llap-gauche is not. >Aha! You're implying (actually, implying is an understatement here) that I >am an "agent provocateur." Nope. Just pointing out that you are doing the job of an agent provacateur very well. But your reply goes a long way toward moving you out of that category and into the category of KoTM fodder. Signed, A Friend PS. This whole thing really is off-topic. I'm letting it drop now. Bluster to your heart's content.

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Re: "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail"
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> It is not merely ethical for one government to > read another's mail, it is a duty. You're too smart to really believe this. Or do you have some way for a foreign gov't to know that *this* call is about a murder while *that* call is about a CIA-sponsored hit against Castro? /r$

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Re: [NOISE] Re: "Gentlemen do not read each other's bank statements"
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> > The high cost of WW II made it a necessity for the gvm't to have more >> > money at a particular moment, and not wait for year-end. >> Not so. Govt has been able to print fiat money at will since the Fed >> Reserve was founded in 1913. The phrase "not worth a Continental" dates to several wars before that, and several governments of East-coast North America as well. tenuous-at-best connection to cypherpunks material - using a currency backed only by the supply of ones and zeroes requires a market mechanism to encourage the issuers not to overdo it.... #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 # # "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" used to mean us watching # the government, not the other way around....

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Re: Crypto Exports, Europe, and Conspiracy Theories
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:06 PM 1/26/96 -0600, Alex Strasheim <cp(a)proust.suba.com> wrote: >Why aren't foreign companies flooding America with strong crypto? Well, >there are clearly pressures of the sort Tim described at work. But there >are other factors as well: ..... Among other things, the RSA and other public-key patents in the US, combined with non-exportability, severely limit the ability of non-US companies to sell public-key-based software in the US. Banks often use moderately-strong crypto (single-DES), and there are some imported cash machines which support it, but it's not a big market. Other than that, most people don't care much about crypto, and assume that the password-"protection" that Microsoft products offer is enough for them. >Digicash is probably the first significant crypto product to be exported >to America. IDEA's pretty significant, though PGP 2.x could have used triple-DES if IDEA hadn't been available. The political significance of it being foreign, or at least non-NSA-tainted, has been somewhat important as well. Then you could also contend that Shamir, a significant crypto producer, exported himself to America :-) (I think he's the RSA member who's Israeli?) (You could also contend that Enigma and Purple were exported to America, and in Enigma's case, the ability to crack it was mainly Polish and British.) Digicash is highly significant as an idea, but will only be significant in reality if they can pull off a successful business strategy before the market gets saturated with less private solutions that everyone needs to be backwards-compatible with. >It's important to note that this extremely important product couldn't >have been produced here, patents aside. >Transaction systems need to be international, and our rules make > America an unsuitable place from which to launch tranaction software. Nicely put; I'll have to steal it sometime :-) #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 # # "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" used to mean us watching # the government, not the other way around....

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Reply: "This post is G-Rated"
by Censored Girls Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Nice addition to your .sig! root@heavily.censored.org....(lightly.censored.org coming soon) :) At 11:18 AM 1/25/96 -0800, you wrote: >[This post is classified as G-Rated by Tim May. >I see no agreed-upon labelling convention emerging. Fortunately. > >--Tim May > >Boycott espionage-enabled software! -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

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No Subject
by Hroller Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:44 PM 1/25/96 -0800, "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri(a)netcom.com> wrote: >it really bugs me how much cypherpunks try to point out the "gotchas" in all >the laws with crypto. when we become *experts* on these laws, and >tell people why they prevent them from doing various things, we >are actually *supporting* them. It's not often we see an active and overt defense of ignorance. Good work, Vladimir! But to really avoid being contaminated by evil knowledge, I recommend the following 12-step program: 1. Admit that you are powerless to get a clue. Print out this message for reference. 2. Unsubscribe from Cypherpunks, and all other sources of information that might be relevant. 3. Unsubscribe from all sources of information that probably aren't relevant, to avoid hostile agents forcing you into unwitting coercion. 4. Read William S. Burroughs books until you begin to see your neighbors as giant cockroaches and slugs. 4a. In the event that you already see them this way, read Burroughs until they look like something else. 5. Join as many religions as possible, so that you have incompatible memes busily protecting you from facts. <steps 6 through 11 deleted until receipt of a note delivered by the proper techniques, to be beamed into your mind later> 12. Seal your head in a plastic bag until you suffocate. This will protect you from such problems in the future. Hope this helps! Signed, A Friend

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Hey, jdoe-agamemnon! Re: NOISE Test Ignore
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:00 PM 1/26/96 -0800, MAILER-DAEMON(a)alpha.c2.org wrote: >Unknown addressee: jdoe-agamemnon(a)alpha.c2.org > >----- Unsent Message Follows ----- > >Received: by alpha.c2.org for jdoe-agamemnon(a)alpha.c2.org > From stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 26 20:12:47 1996 >Received: from ix2.ix.netcom.com (ix2.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.1]) by infinity.c2.org (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP > id UAA06971 for <jdoe-agamemnon(a)alpha.c2.org>; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:12:47 -0800 (PST) > Community ConneXion: Privacy & Community: <URL:http://www.c2.org> >Received: from pax-ca11-09.ix.netcom.com by ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) > id UAA19713; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:17:46 -0800 >Message-Id: <199601270417.UAA19713(a)ix2.ix.netcom.com> >X-Sender: stewarts(a)popd.ix.netcom.com (Unverified) >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:17:45 -0800 >To: jdoe-agamemnon(a)alpha.c2.org >From: Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> >Subject: Re: NOISE Test Ignore > >At 09:22 PM 1/25/96 -0800, you wrote: >>Test Test Test >> >> >Well, it got here, jd... >#-- ># Thanks; Bill ># Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 ># ># "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" used to mean us watching ># the government, not the other way around.... > > > #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 # # "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" used to mean us watching # the government, not the other way around....

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Hey, jdoe-agamemnon Re: NOISE Test Ignore
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:00 PM 1/26/96 -0800, MAILER-DAEMON(a)alpha.c2.org wrote: >Unknown addressee: jdoe-agamemnon(a)alpha.c2.org > >----- Unsent Message Follows ----- > >Received: by alpha.c2.org for jdoe-agamemnon(a)alpha.c2.org > From stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 26 20:12:47 1996 >Received: from ix2.ix.netcom.com (ix2.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.1]) by infinity.c2.org (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP > id UAA06971 for <jdoe-agamemnon(a)alpha.c2.org>; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:12:47 -0800 (PST) > Community ConneXion: Privacy & Community: <URL:http://www.c2.org> >Received: from pax-ca11-09.ix.netcom.com by ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) > id UAA19713; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:17:46 -0800 >Message-Id: <199601270417.UAA19713(a)ix2.ix.netcom.com> >X-Sender: stewarts(a)popd.ix.netcom.com (Unverified) >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:17:45 -0800 >To: jdoe-agamemnon(a)alpha.c2.org >From: Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> >Subject: > >At 09:22 PM 1/25/96 -0800, you wrote: >>Test Test Test >> >> >Well, it got here, jd... >#-- ># Thanks; Bill ># Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 ># ># "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" used to mean us watching ># the government, not the other way around.... > > > #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 # # "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" used to mean us watching # the government, not the other way around....

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Reminder: Jan 28 Bay Area CA meeting, noon - 3 p.m.
by mrm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bay Area California Cypherpunks Meeting January 28 12 noon - 3 p.m. B21, Sparcy's Cafeteria, Sun Microsystems Inc Directions: Take the Rengstorff Ave East exit from 101. If you're driving north on 101, this exit is labeled "Amphitheater Parkway". If you're driving south on 101, this exit is labeled "Rengstorff". At the end of the exit ramp, turn left onto Garcia. After .4 mile, turn right onto Marine Way. After .1 mile, turn right onto Coast. Building 21 is right there. Look for the big purple and white sign. Agenda: Roger Masterton, a producer/videographer, would like to film a discussion among cypherpunks about 1st amendment issues, for a PBS show named "Freedom Speaks." The show airs nationally on PBS. In San Francisco, currently on KMPT Thursdays at 5 p.m., and starting in March, on KQED. Their web site is http://www.fac.org/ There's a lot of 1st amendment issues to talk about these days regarding the internet, and so the first part of the meeting will be gathering topics. There's the first amendment principles of publishing information in digital form, and the fundamental right of people to carry on a private conversation. The discussion will take whatever organic form it takes, depending on who of us can make the meeting ... See you tomorrow if you're coming. I'll bring bagels again. Marianne mrm(a)eng.sun.com mrm(a)netcom.com

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