December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Video as a source of randomness
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:02 AM 11/2/95, Andrew D. Isaacson wrote: >A thought just occurred to me... > >How useful would it be to use a video stream as a source of random input >to something like /dev/random? I'm thinking along the lines of a >Connectix QuickCam (sp?) or the cool videocam that comes with the Indy. >It seems to me that the picture recieved by a camera sitting atop a >monitor would be quite unpredictable. (relatively) High bandwith, too. >Even if the entropy in a video signal is low, the high bandwidth would >seem to make up for it. > >Struggling to keep my head above the crypto tide, Digitized video input, especially from something like a noisy channel (t.v. channel, for example), is quite likely to produce a lot more entropy bits per second than nearly any of us ever need. (One's PGP key could be seeded in a fraction of a millisecond, for example.) The issue is that most people don't need this number of entropy bits per second, and that most people don't have video inputs. (And those that do may not have them hooked up and ready to go.) One of the basic ideas we have had, as Cypherpunks, is to encourage widespread methods. Any methods that need special hardware tend to not get widely used. Audio, video, disk timing, and all sorts of other sources of physical randomness are useful to have, but most people either won't have the right configuration or won't configure their systems so as to use their configuration. --Tim May, who has both audio and video digitizers built into his Power Macintosh 7100av, but notes that none of the crypto programs he uses has any provision for using them, and so he doesn't use them for crypto purposes. Views here are not the views of my Internet Service Provider or Government. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

1 0

Was I censored before Cypherpunks?
by gjeffers＠socketis.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

:: Encrypted: PGP -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 hEwDG6rHcT8LtDcBAf4v0sGjue3ZVsxWwjDhAE8fTNr/lxNfGZdCi7cUTsN0zjS1 iHIpCESOg8vnjt+J3Dv8MQ6e+AicO09nMNbUZpLupgAAC2B5a0zYlHjaqRo3ZcC8 Lha2UFdw/rcV9H9OtCHWsqEMfMzcFEdkx3qFVJ4w/pycvdSg9m7s/3y89EEOzj2f A4GecWrBNq5qZEU5GLEu+GrSVTHQe0Coeu4P8GEIRH3xwLHVig7Y6AcAgitAlGY4 FXvX6h2oln+0/3xGpzYguyTJ+zJdIA1HxhL+ZoEfgj3RZpLF4oWqYwMfykp8LAX6 9F6rAdIRVSjIHZ+/J5IF4xYAPiZYXvWVuAGoqtLmJKVaTxpMKs+rmcLmmDi8N22O FV6U6csZAKBTv/GFIjlrcoB9oVYyNwuewQgYXw8qpl83HgNMNOUV58Y2TxFPyoLk 90f6pXiEzpLbSs9uC6GHd4c43fQTkevyGROOMs6wNXiFDdr3Y5ZHxwFqqVBKAAm4 mNIcLDQk3z1tc9yt5XIKaayZvdlUiO08EDfHvMvTSdWBPMXb3cetbcyQKnR50752 ySRmkl595EaLRIWeBCK6S7JW/APTNUe4nOz++lFWHtTwHkHBRG0wM/GxSb5M88lv LEuiRDLNrOCG4gcV8BuCRnpfOBwmcCFyprhnei43SiJtNHc12FBOp2v1hcbcq0Kg ixMRbxAjQTOLnvICriDobgoom9ZC4MC92BVLbJ5hmVOMTxJkDNssAP7pHWRP8rPz te6N79N9GtSLjzDHL8SM49oglQQE5mG+hCf0xUgugbUHBP65uyTsMliYMFzOiXMw 8awLNCJqkhKB5xihDgHCS3cjV6Jm/+0U/LC7hFAnGjZlgUhnQhy8jTCrkXkizsif CN4LaZKcdaJgDo9qsfnG65zf2Qi7eZ1VcDHdAM41ebmc+iXIIUyOX6OmS0+HfvOM lGU3iH6TqPOJF1aZRps0PEvny//r0pw+Q6NC6/TPl3dp57VfAn9KO7mZ2r7OlEP3 bt0aEn5hFEEBk4apeYAjltOngfzj4wSyKA0ah294f/+UCSri1iBa0uXNhYZwxga0 oAoLteS0In3D7vsfU3kkn41gy83CfXF2/s2r/LEIkThdJK1VzFDfpr1XZbxCzO6x zcWmNIXQHVdrxAmzttJ+26gaEUJl/0tEolUpT5sJwnyvOQb71r1MpaCB2ntWg53z gUJRWATsWDhxQHx7O1thk4e2fPgRS/fscEkqaH6670gTJrjwV/2f6wdr7f+ILDmq H5bhTttkDHKbfchx7RgStTjn1slTGV5LNTS+k4eGrNR3gPdYiRR4veRhV4vkgYti W5YjlniK9eHWtw2Wp+rG2GrM2A0jP48D9DTtT6wbibo6Jmly7SgjiB7S0CJLKRFC OllLiul8HZ11CWYZ808MH06p62e7RtIe0CySon/r/R11KNaQyz2oK0NdD/GV3xO/ 08sJABgnXCzQKgsdgPppJP1IauUYZoHp2V7vzuXSr+ZCZCC/TJlIyiZ0x4XBpVT6 mzehKZzdue4wwRGkSh/ny0xrAxNA76B89nrXLXWVQ5s1oCBrimZwDncD1Mmpvd5/ jHW4vuhphlTP30QC3zkv5DJy/2i6eYh4W+xZgFkmZuFv6KT1Kk0LFjOKnGno63TZ E0pNnTmdjPwHCPO9e7y1EUbTjk2F5jNUXJ777NhZ/6itiXcR6MnQtWqEsMXL6rif orl4cB2fK0nyyUSBfVhSwtaD7/MdJZQi4WQ0yOdLlojJFggCf5taVAIIspTN7di0 OoiLOSH5SQ3AXVpJIJwJqfGyQkeaHL36fvcxICM/+4yFESv31NmaGJcuO84SvMST FHCbGKwqNI8+cXDpoTW2OB67xaVJp57StKJJgDqcBhxuyd0ghYHfgaIBocfs9XzQ VU39zY70icImOJpuuKC5gn6G+WoC/xzTWbFCejtpkKTwzJ+GPcNBgGOgp5q7KbNf f1Qd3jh8jpVEPu8WZXblyZls/kXh7e6GU/cbEA1XWRuEn50qlemwgeflHEoCq/ij I2ShFonviehiJc93r8FFa5wUvpwYD70hrNYFaWrCuE5nfkyC40izzi+9mzAV72MJ FO6MmAQxRGggM4CRAX3YRO/YYk1v9mFFtjY4kDBJvEDLnTKgCI4hwiJ5gRYYRsb4 3jbtY+KoOaZTuCkitEfd6TVqE7KFOcucefmI4CxOem4CWU/V53ermFpj9zjYyGYK QvMuXZST4dq62ud1IMfFrbl9DpYIJXthswwTRbgA74mnVkQI9gAKHYt3tTHvCItC gOGVkcYgv9Kd4sEKlYnu0LzlyOoh7CJzHnjkTuzqXBRqdxFk7F5SDe7UEY+WmLIB Uqf1w2iVaWiP1IqEDtpSwqDWhwR7gAPw2qvb0GRA9WRZZR3zaNsU6ENUhOi7sm/W awuXMKs9c0b7Co/1c2/9T6flnVEmR4Afl2smlrAsuHuCtBzolqAy7kCIL4LpNQ+1 Tgwy6RfNilNZ+ksff1ckFJ6wv9rywvH2Bq74Txvc0DfuDHReb8H1kbJkdQKXlcZF sM5mJVL7870t/QbfBb3oMKcIVfOWhXCJXxlthmS42iHdyJxH6Hl2yd7aSE/7Uabg b4NwgQHrC6voNfEBRtm2fk8cPn8L3IBJT2uDSBMb86n6+R86YcU+uEULyysVie6o W01S7ImFISmZ6wSfxM4xXSS5pKAnv82ajXWxIpDFSqWLsAr4Es/yvw2YxrL01noG BiLu4dAzyc8uNQ9WpMxSiMoK4t8G+j4dgeXuc+MR1fNY6Aopw8EFFFvAz8ENInYJ FrdY9yoF91i7Hj7lFRobpWg+Lh+jX8aNS2QhTn9U3SJxvd96HeWRy+u6BE/cQJGE Y2+P/lcxNSY9/3d+YNYzWIybZiGMXqv0taKzysz0eHxFB6wvuv4LMYcFjxwDCm4t +hZaY6Vkar4r/fX3HnJdqmaxWz/p3DA0x8nn3B0gv7udVwuH+69q2YGcQ1oxR8eV HFmzczNWTOf9juNSa1f0i/s8a1gCkhqnC/a+CM5RZsHQK0vRPxPRkFDu5I9IuWUR ZsLR6Xu9b3J6b3sySMdZl0Gvqhb3ahK12LXMPAj/Wl+xAw7Mo1P7DSxHoozGqIbI 3EiycSRHGe4hx0rZIT3VwnhnB86SM1tiDaUjIHVhbQAnVOFIMA84OLBQvVmRFQ44 TdVXBotD3lRzXGZ2utY0cb5/ll/5osL4BjJSaYUQIYFqjBfcLsExDfJHrzL0VUhK bZPjNc149Ux9Oxlscg7U57v3K08YzvN1vnZeWPnlmkdTWGDoWjvgtCx0VDQjVZlW zQHqpLZilqf9eOsuY9LqcY9lG5EzCoN9lHzI2Od/lRzAEO5q9xGurbWHDauHs1Xi W/5eNO3YOIM8I5FY5i/3AKsNizggBR/j4CLLlYK2SttgrNFsB3z0W/Akp0b3uWis sHPuYZ7aeBDswI8HTGMx5wWYqIkOBhUiMtMZbViSy8YYAO9kblT4HfbcaOWVeh4/ WRgoLtD+7u4SAbqjGZphb2JB0bGhcZzGLZfodFE/GbBX1+AIp4FxWPM0+vUBdfVL yXxNc3qfHvnS61aGWIUuOzkdt1WnO1z38itVxSEJFpoOJNWD/Rnxt1qQXCRN5vMx BmJOpxK0Np1Qoqt7sMhm8ZLTwjUg75takFm+dnFJV/yej1Qhp3igJeLVqPc9zCjY rRHSZjGgmL3t/B7yX7Z3/GNajwXiuBntP97RRg+rBNcaG8YCMKFVAp6ojuvrQWUQ Mee08dfIS7/hKlDIVvkJXmr4nlpyzAJzZ7C3IdL+D26L/LNNbjQhalkE5DA0HzKI xkJIMH4+B73/IPqoLp7syRRWvZZySUtyTz/aUrgV3i8P+Jj1+V5izy1pI8VOXcSM F9eOe+fGgtXWKJuI+y5TSkvOBSaPCTA4Jd+TTvL5mkYhLlIuQpYjGznbfyM50dxY AQEElCFPKxkr96kBEbRmdjeXBA== =7IoD -----END PGP MESSAGE-----

1 0

NAMBLA
by Boat1688＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How do I get some of these pics of boys in swimsuits?

3 2

Was I censored by a sophisticated word parser/key word searcher?
by gjeffers＠socketis.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My original plaintext post of Internet control by spooks has still not been posted. I have made 2 posts since that were posted quickly. Are things getting BAD!? Could I have fucked up? Do remailers now have a new use? Should remailers with encryption be used to spread the alarm to the rest of the Internet? My fellow Cypherpunks with bigger Internet mechanics brains should check this out. Can the original BLACKOUT post be reposted to other mailing lists or will it be censored? Check it out! - Beat State! - Gary Jeffers

1 0

Re: Was I censored <etc.>
by tbyfield＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:15 AM 11/2/95, Gary Jeffers wrote: >My original plaintext post of Internet control by spooks has still not been >posted. I have made 2 posts since that were posted quickly. Are things >getting BAD!? Could I have fucked up? Do remailers now have a new use? <etc.> And at 4:45 am or so, having worked all bloody night--having received all the posts you mention--I'm responding: (1) Chill out, chum. (2) CP maybe isn't the best place to post internal dialogues. (3) There's a good chance that many people on this list have had one or another experience with automagically/mysteriously delayed mail: AFAICT, we're all still here. If you'd like, I'll confirm that I heard my echo from the listserv. and (4) If you live around the NY/NY area, give WFMU some money; and even if you don't, give them some money. If the spooks are ever stupid enough to "black out" the net, some fruit with very fine musical taste at FMU will let everyone know. But only with your support. Ted

1 0

Intel Committee Report on SAFE
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The House Select Committee on Intelligence has published its report on SAFE, including supporting and opposing views of its controversial amendment, estimated costs and analysis: http://jya.com/hr105-108-pt4.htm (195K)

1 0

Happy Halloween!
by carolann＠censored.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

May you find happiness on the Yellow Brick Road of Cryptography. (costuming of the highest art) Love Always, Carol Anne -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

1 0

PRL_har
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ito has shared an LA Times report of October 21 on frantic Japanese economic espionage, there and in the US, and its booming bugging and wiretapping industry. And The Wash Post simpers today about the CIA-Mils self- sucking into the eco-spy quagmire to garner funds, as spit in its toon yesterday. More non-crypto: FinTimes jabbers today in "Cars safe from phone threat," on the weird effects on automobile "electronic-based safety-critical systems" of pervasive sources of electro-magnetic interference, say by your mobile phone or police transceivers, that may catapult the family-fun Land Rover into Rancid's roadbus. PRL_har (3 all 15 kb)

1 0

Re: "Matchcode" technology sparks privacy flames.....
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:36:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Julie DeFalco <defalco(a)cei.org> To: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> Subject: Re: "Matchcode" technology sparks privacy flames..... 1) CEI's position on this stuff, in a nutshell, is that the only things the government should worry about on the Internet are the traditional things that the government ought to worry about: enforcing rule of law and private property rights. The government should not run around making up excuses to regulate privacy preferences on the internet. For a full exposition of our position, feel free to check out our filings on the FTC web page (www.ftc.gov) The biggest problem in my mind was that the FTC was talking about a medium that is pretty new and still has a lot of growing pains. The FTC wants to get in on the ground floor of regulation and direct the development of the Internet -- that's industrial policy and should be called that so at least we're all talking about the same thing. Meanwhile, lots of folks find it easier to cry out for a new regulation, rather than negotiate a solution among conflicting interests, which is time consuming and messy. This happens in all other industries, so it's not surprising that such pressure has emerged here. After all, regulators need an excuse for their jobs, and outside groups calling for more regulation often have the opportunity to direct how the regulation is written and implemented (in other words, they can gain power and access to power). I think that the problems discussed at the hearing are not only outside the proper sphere of government (actually, the FTC in my mind is outside the proper sphere of government), but that most of those problems would be eventually worked out in time. 2)>>>>One of the main assertions made by both sides in the privacy >>battles >>>>is people must be informed when a third party is gathering >>"personal" >>>>information about them. No, I never said that. I said that if you release information about yourself into a public sphere, then you have no right to control the downstream use of that information (because that is essentially controlling the behavior of others). I said that in terms of companies' web pages, it would probably be a good idea to inform people of this action. And that without a law, or even without government pushing, it would happen anyway. 3) Re: the gossip question: I was going to write what Declan said, only he said it much better. I don't think that you or anybody can properly draw a line between how much gossip is "too much" gossip, and when one should "draw a line." Maybe we know "too much gossip" when we see it, but do you really want to cede that much control over the speech and actions of others to a judge? That's it for now. Bye, Julie

1 0

[NOISE] (Was: Re: US government department for crime...)
by liberty＠gate.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- John Young wrote, in his unique style: >Still, anonymous does make an astutely ironic observation, in >humorous lifting of the customary FinCEN cloak: > >That the hydra-headed agency may be literally aim at financial >*crimes* enforcement rather than enforcement of the laws >against such deeds. > > >Especially given the participating renegade agencies who seem >to absolve themselves of these laws. > > >Perhaps anonymous is right, they are a band of outlaws, daring >to overtly flaunt it, expecting no opposition from the gullible >cowed. > <I take the bait...> Actually, it's *two* bands of outlaws in concert, and the "gullible cowed" are beginning to clamor for anything else. This could be an interesting election year, if the media would ever-in-hell get out of lap-dog mode and into watch-dog mode. [I know...I'm not holding my breath.] JMR -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Freedom isn't Freeh iQCVAwUBMJjAB21lp8bpvW01AQHnrQP/XU5uwUfR0e9ZpJ2y8+d7MExdruGwrnyW llp4rC6mNJl8IoyAkZG4ox79rK1mKqd4KzG/XP9lLzuqHCp9Cc5rR0ECe0I5RHnx WFv66KkcsvVlGSflyMiuDi3R/Ul6y4wEOCaxus4OSHM+NhOcVKQddlg0F5AgOPbL mzi7SF9/p0I= =DVN9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Regards, Jim Ray "Thank God we don't get all the government we pay for." Will Rogers Visit my "Pretty Good Homepage" at http://shopmiami.com/prs/jimray/ Featuring cypherpunk privacy stuff and some of my babypictures! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP key Fingerprint 51 5D A2 C3 92 2C 56 BE 53 2D 9C A1 B3 50 C9 C8 Key id. # E9BD6D35 (key on page & servers) <liberty(a)gate.net> IANAL ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Help Phil! email zldf(a)clark.net or http://www.netresponse.com/zldf _______________________________________________________________________

1 0