December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Di Privacy, Die / Was: Death of Privacy
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The death of the "People's Princess" is bringing calls for laws to protect 'privacy'. Except that the laws being talked about are mostly about limiting what people are allowed to do in public. Same-old, same-old. Laws are being discussed that deal with the 'licensing' and the 'regulation' of telephoto lenses and listening devices. Same-old, same-old. The fact that Dodi and Diana's staged death took place in a country with the most plentiful and restrictive laws concerning the public movement and actions of the press, seems to be lost in the similarly staged outrage against the private press. Does anyone doubt that whatever new laws are enacted will result in the further herding of the press into mainstream feeding pens, ala Whitehouse news conferences and military maneuvers? Of equal importance to the effect on restrictions of public activity that the staged murder of Diana and Dodi will have, is the restrictions on the press, through threats of arrest and intimidation. Typical government-spook operation. Witnesses and evidence subjected to detention and seizure. All 'news' of the event being coordinated by goverenment/LEA shills who 'point' us towards 'those responsible' and 'at fault'--with a mainstream press providing us with the 'solutions' to preventing the actions of free people resulting in similar tragedies in the future. The message is clear--freedom leads to tragedy. If people run around doing what they want to do in public, then there will be accidents and tragedies. This must be prevented at all costs. Get real. The same monarchy spooks who released the Dianagate tapes of Diana's private telephone conversations, in order to make her look like a slut in order to make Prince Charles sluttery look less serious, watch Diana twenty-four hours a day, are the same people who took possession of the photographic evidence of the murder scene. Diana herself, in a public interview, spoke of the Dianagate tapes as being just a small part of the monarchist conspiracy to tear her down and nullify the threat she presented to the anal retentive structure of the monarchy. Dodi's ex-fiancee plainly stated on TV that Diana would be alive today if she had not taken up with Dodi. The Fayed family has made it clear that they feel the deaths were the result of the monarchy not wanting Diana's image and influence being connected to those outside the loop of the monarchy. Think about it. The mother of the future King of England, getting married to a rich, political mobster. [Translate~~a non-white who buys parliamentary votes.] It's not going to happen. Ask yourself this--"What do the assassinated free-world figures all have in common?"--John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, John Lennon, Princess Diana. Answer: "They are decent people, visionaries who used their power and influence to fight for the empowerment of the citizens, and against the reign of a dictatorial secret government." Answer #2: "Once they were dead, everything they stood for became subject to revisionist history by their murderers." The initial assault after Diana's death was on the free press, the secondary assault (in reality, the main attack, the first only being a diversionary maneuver) focuses on placing the 'blame' for Diana's death with her stepping outside the loop of the anal-retentive monarchy and hanging out with parliamentary vote-buying thugs who employ loud mouthed drunk drivers. In the age of the ten-second sound-byte, giving the government spooks two whole days to manipulate the press coverage before the private citizens at the murder scene are allowed to speak, is a godsend. Once the paparrazi and the sandniggers have had the blame balanced on their shoulders, the press is not about to backtrack and look for the true story. Even job interview self-help books tell us that the first two minutes set the tone and future impression of the whole process. The governement FUD disseminators know that if they can have the first say in any event, that those pursuing the truth have to play catch-up from that point forward. Has anyone noticed that the 'news' surrounding this event has had precious little coverage of the people actually involved in the whole affair? The doctor who magically appeared on the scene and 'treated' Diana isn't known about or accessible for a couple days. The police, firemen, etc., are not interviewed, like they are in even the most extremely inconsequential of news story coverages. Get real--if a fucking cat gets rescued from a cocksucking tree, then we get to see an interview with the hero at the scene. In the death of a major public figure, the press doesn't bother to interview those at the scene of the event? Right... The first eye-witness interview I saw was by someone who used the word "explosion." That was the _last_ time I saw that interview. I saw _one_ mention of the Fayed family saying the monarchy had murdered Dodi and Diana. Never saw that again. Must not be news. Right... Notice that the press reports that the two little princes want to walk behind the casket. Is it a 'coincidence' that the two innocent victims who are now under the thumb of the monarchist spin-doctors are going to be front and center in the coverup of their mother's murder? Why are the thousands of death threats against Prince Charles if he tries to use the funeral to redeem his image *not* news? Why? Same-old, same-old. TruthMonger

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Re: FBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls (fwd)
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 9/3/97 8:30 PM, Lucky Green (shamrock(a)netcom.com) passed this wisdom: >[Freeh] >There are a number of ways that that could be >implemented, but what we believe we need as a minimum >is a feature implemented and designed by the >manufacturers of the products and services here that >will allow law enforcement to have an immediate lawful >decryption of the communications in transit or the >stored data. That could be done in a mandatory >manner. It could be done in an involuntary manner. >But the key is that we have the ability. >- ... hmmmm, immediate *lawful* decryption ... which implies that they plan to end run the Bill of Rights with some law that permits them to walk in and snoop on the spot ... right now to look at my mail which needs no key, just a teakettle, they at least have to stop somewhere and find a tame judge, which removes at least some of the immediacy. Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys - Send Email Subject "Get PGP Key" "In effect, to follow, not to force the public inclination; to give a direction, a form, a technical dress, and a specific sanction, to the general sense of the community, is the true end of legislature." -- Edmund Burke

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Militias
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just watched an hour-long special on CBS, "The Birth of a Militia," about the Rocky Mountain Militia is southern Utah. On nearly every issue I felt the militia members were right. Personally, I don't share their animosity toward Jews and blacks, but their beliefs are theirs to practice as they wish (including fighting laws which force them to mix with other races, as with laws which force them to hire those they have no desire to hire). I got so angry at their persecution that I felt like going out target shooting at my favorite range (open late at night). But since I went out shooting just this afternoon, I guess I'll stay home and rant. The militia member who was arrested, tried, and convicted of illegally owning a gun, evading the police, and driving without a license, apparently committed no serious crimes, by my standards. He didn't rob, he didn't rape, he didn't kill. As the Sheriff was quoted several times as saying, he "mouthed off." And apparently being a "skinhead" and a "militia member" is ipso facto proof of criminality. The Sheriff said he planned to get Johnny. Fuck them. Political crimes. Just like Bell. Maybe I will get in another hour of target practice tonight. The end times are coming. (BTW, the CBS piece left on this note: Johnny (didn't catch his last name) is holed up this evening in his compound, refusing to report for sentencing. The State Security Bureau, er, the Sheriff, says a shootout is likely.) --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: "Hackers"-- brief review and anecdote...
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:51 9/18/95, Steven Levy wrote: >No chance. The problem for me isn't that someone wanted to call a movie >Hackers but that it causes confusion in that for eleven years there has >been a preexisiting work by that name. There is a novelization of the >screenplay now in paperback, so when if a friend recommends that you buy >Hackers, you'll probably buy that one. (especially since Dell is >determined to do as little as possible for my own book). Normally when there can be confusion between a movie title and an existent book title (in that the movie could be a dramatization of the book based on general subject matter), the movie gets title clearance, pays a token release fee to the book's author, and puts up a title clearance credit in the movie credits. For an example of this, check out Bladerunner (based on "Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep?" not "Bladerunner" [which was by a different author]) credits where the prior uses of the title were mentioned.

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PGP back in legal limbo?
by hoz＠univel.telescan.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> WSJ, Sept 19, 1995. > Cylink Claims Right To Key Technology Involving > Encryption > ... The arbitrators > ruled that RSA hasn't had the right to sublicense the > Stanford patents since 1990. >Since PKP (and Bidzos, now president of >RSA) always said that DH covered all public key encryption, >it would seem that any RSA licensee would also need a license >from Cylink. So, I suppose this invalidates the RSA agreement that allows PGP to be distributed? What "fortunate" timing for the pro GAK folks! Okay, everybody in US, erase your copies, before the Feral government comes to get you....... Rick F. Hoselton (who doesn't claim to present opinions for others)

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Re: FBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 So, looking at all this, what does it mean???? Are they going to have an amnesty period when I can run down to my local firehouse and turn in my PGP5 CDROM without risking going to jail? Will MIT turn over logs of everyone who ever d/l-ed PGP2 and we have four weeks to turn over every backup disk we ever made? If they do get this by us, and I decide to use their silly-assed encryption, do I get a ten year all expense paid vacation at the Allenwood Hilton if I send my bootlegged PGP message inside their encryption? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNA4oP8dZgC62U/gIEQLkIQCgsEasNm3JxBrHz1djEo2BvO1jyikAnis8 fDdwE1GjXBOhOMRrNRxSs0XW =Wz3y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys - Send Email Subject "Get PGP Key" "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" -- Samuel Johnson "With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first." -- Ambrose Bierce's commentary on Johnson's definition.

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Commercial RSAref
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

First off, let me congratulate you on inking this deal. I hope that this will make a lot of interesting things possible, now that there is an RSAref toolkit outside the US, and also for commercial use in the US. I have a few questions, which I hope you can answer publically. Will there be a public, standard fee schedule? Many companies would like to be able to use RSA technology for a fee, and would like to know what that fee is without having to explain their plans in great detail to RSA. I know people who would like to be able to say, heres a check, we're shipping software using RSAref to 5000 desktops. Will you be adding access points to the software? I know that PGP required new interfaces, previously unpublished, and that use of unpublished interfaces was also a problem RSA had with Wei Dai's excellent Crypto++ library. Adam Jonathan Zamick wrote: | Well I've vaccilated between making a formal, dry announcement or | letting you all know my way. Given the general tenor (and individual | spirit) of many on Toad it is pretty easy to guess which path I chose. | So, first of all, here is to a productive future for encryption and | encryption technologies. Consensus Development and RSA Data Security, | have finalized the contract for Consensus to license and support | RSAREF(tm) for commercial use. | Lastly, we would like to hear suggestions and ideas on how to improve | RSAREF. We intend to remain responsive to requests, and welcome ideas | for the evolution of the RSAREF toolkit. "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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Re: Big Brother is watching
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:43 AM 9/4/97 +0200, Anonymous wrote: ... >>With this wonderful sucess, We can all look forward to this items being >>placed in our domiciles in order to further protect us from crime. > >And I'll give my kids a can of spray paint and a ladder. Maybe I'll offer >bonus prizes if they can figure out an inventive, undetectable way to disable >the fucker. ... In Altus, it is illegal to sell spray paint to persons under the age of 18. That makes two violations of their rights that I know of. The curfue which was enacted a couple years ago being the first. All because the local politicians are fully aware that they are too young to vote.

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[NOISE] Unabomber - crypto-anarchist?!?
by Sherry Mayo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Found this quote from the Electronic Telegraph, the online version of a UK daily newspaper. (world news section, Weds 20th Sept) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et/access?ac=116192744309&pg=//95/9/20/wunab20.h… "Editors forced to print manifesto of Unabomber By Charles Laurence in New York ...The heart of his argument is that industrial society has led to ways of life for which people are fundamentally unsuited. He calls for a crypto-anarchic revolution and a new order based on small, village-style units." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Uh? Crypto-anarchic? Surely he's not one of ours? ;-) ;-) ;-) Sherry ps You are supposed to register to read the ET but I registered as "cypherpunks" passwd "cypherpunks" - don't worry I didn't give the mailing list address.

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U.S. Prison Labor
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have pointers to information/details about U.S. prison inmates being used as slave labour for international corporations? Thanx

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