December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Dianaism Was: Re: Di and Dodi Run Over A Land Mine
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nobody(a)replay.com (Anonymous) wrote: >Sean Roach wrote: >> Anyone care to lay odds as to how soon a religion will start up with the >> late princess as the main diety? >> I'm guessing 5 years for the first hard-cores. And 20 years for >> international visibility. >I have already seen one newscast which has predicted that Diana will >join Elvis as a diety-figurehead. So, now that we have a King _and_ >a Queen, why don't we start a new nation? They would be the perfect >titular heads for a Virtual Nation, because their lifestyles would be >inexpensive for us to maintain, no matter how lavishly we choose to >treat them. They'll be lonely if we don't fill in the Pantheon: God of Messages and Pathways: Alan M. Turing God of War: William Colby God of Justice: Alfred Nobel Goddess of Love: Muriel Hemingway God of Vengeance: Jim Bell Presidential Gods: The Kitchen God: Harry S. Truman God of Mischief and Deception: Richard Milhous Nixon God of Laughter and Forgetting: Ronald Wilson Reagan Court Jester: Jerzy Kosinski Patron Saint of Lost Causes: Dorothy Denning The All Powerful God: Rover from "The Prisoner" The Olympians: John Bonham Curt Cobain Jimi Hendrix Janice Joplin John Lennon Jim Morrison "Oh Lord Turing, please hear my prayer. I do beseech thee for a one way function whose inverse is NP complete. Please do graciously accept my humble offering: 10109AlanMathisonTuring11cfea22ef8c1166" Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNBCNBJaWtjSmRH/5AQG5NQf+MfgJcaGPPFufY/hIrFTqd6oSLcnq4THd GHJkbOPKDWJaT/z81fawEZoo8fzE+tV99XkTQP3+R50CeKhg0XuweNPvha4npFhA yNMk+ZxETnyySFHak+MW1qM+rdoWrGdRHKc4lJfwrVJeWCpHGg2IcuC7jXhTh0c9 mW4H3PZzXYh9sqOaD5dzO5GxNTv0OPZ7rdiweaVed2ijQiOZYl0guqF1+SUWIZeB 7mWI6y+YjLoEvYjA9OUUDGChfnN53jkoQVncFE3nrWmUJmICRlSAsTQpaR+vkCMo BXCQpv4lCenuobTRwqstySZF/FYA68toEBcbCjtoxGgHwUdRCXgtxg== =s67n -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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DCSB: Boston D-H expiration Party at Doyles on Saturday. (fwd)y
by Cypherpunks Maintenance Account 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----- Forwarded message from Robert Hettinga ----- >From cpunks Fri Sep 5 18:41:29 1997 X-Sender: rah(a)mail.shipwright.com Message-Id: <v0311078cb036264cfc46(a)[139.167.130.248]> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 18:03:29 -0400 To: Recipient List Suppressed:; From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: DCSB: Boston D-H expiration Party at Doyles on Saturday. Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk -- Start of PGP signed section. In utter anthesis of the way we normally do things at DCSB, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents An Utterly Unplanned Last-Minute Spur of the Moment Boston Pub-Crawling Celebration of the Expiration of the Diffie-Hellman Public Key Patent Saturday, September 6, 1997 3pm - Whenever we give up at The William Braddock Cafe, A.K.A Doyles's 3484 Washington Street, Boston (Jamaica Plain) This all started out several months ago in my head as a spiffy whoop-de-do black-tie webcasted countdown with sponsors and free champaigne and a groaning buffet and penguin waiters and a cash bar at the Harvard Club with a donation to a worthy cause, but, well, we couldn't get a time on the patent, so the countdown was out, and we couldn't get sponsors (remembering the last cocktail party, maybe there's a reason?), so the free bubbly and munchies was out, PETA got us on the way we wanted to make the penguins groan, and we couldn't think of a worthy enough cause, so that was out, and, finally, the Club is closed on Saturday, anyway. Feh. So, we're losers, okay? What can we say? Shoot us, already... Meanwhile, we're sitting here watching the Bay Area, and Austin, do something, and then Declan and the Washingtoonians do something, but the *final* straw came when Peter Wayner calls up and says: "WELL???? Are you guys in Boston going to DO something? I'm gonna file a story in the Times tomorrow that SAYS you are..." And so, bowing to the pressure of the media culture in memory of recent events on the continent <ewwwww>, (and my own cravings for porkchops and Pickwick Ale, <ewwwww>) I, Robert Hettinga, by the power vested in me by the August (or maybe it was July) membership of the Society as Their Moderator, do hereby unilaterally declare an Official Social Function of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston to occur at Doyle's, 3484 Washington Street, Jamaica Plain, Boston, tomorrow, Septmber 6, 1997, at 3PM Eastern Standard Time, my God have mercy on our souls. Bring your own money. :-). Be prepared to buy the moderator a drink. If Doyle's gets boring, we'll crawl elsewhere, but only after an hour has elapsed. If Doyle's isn't boring, we'll drink ourselves under the table, or at least face-down on it, or until we're shown the door, or maybe until our wives come and take us home, or something. And, so, to paraphrase that great statesman, one David 'Davey' Crockett: "Y'all can go to Hell. [or, Washington, or the Valley, or Texas, as the case may be...] *I'm* going to Doyle's." See you there. Cheers, Bob Hettinga (Im)Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -- End of PGP signed section, PGP failed! ----- End of forwarded message from Robert Hettinga -----

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Re: New GAK Bill
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/6/97 9:08 AM, John Young (jya(a)pipeline.com) passed this wisdom: >For a legal analysis of why mandatory domestic key escrow would >not (most likely) be constitutional for non-commercial messages, >see parts III & IV of: What I would like to know is how they can justify imposing it on messages between individuals and corporations or corporations to corporations. It also occurs to me that if such communications were within state boundries might not that further restrict where they can put their nose? In they end they most likely will do as they please, but usually they try to start with some semblance of legal constitutional foundation ... this time they seem to have gone for the throat in the first inning, the Constitution be damned ... I see, despite the wording of the McCain-Kerry, that after they have that in place, they will then coming whining that because the private sector is excluded that all these bad people are doing an endrun, so we need to bring them in under the umbrella of GAK ... <sigh> ... 'up the revolution!' -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNBFk/sdZgC62U/gIEQJfcACg98yLedoN7B7i91MFuhBj1TkBF5EAoNCX 39s/Pt+a4/krfyIQ3yB6YJnM =yiu0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys - Send Email Subject "Get PGP Key" "It would take an archimedean fulcrum to raise you to the level of total depravity" --Thomas E. Carney, ca. 1920

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Re: Freeh is Marked for Deletion
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Freeh must be removed by any means necessary. His calling for mandatory (or > involuntary) key escrow marks him as unworthy of continued tenure. He is > marked for deletion. HOLY DJEEZUUUUSSSSS Tim! You long for becoming roommate to Jim Bell? :-) Ciao jfa -- Jean-Francois Avon, Pierrefonds(Montreal) QC Canada DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee Finest of Limoges porcelain and crystal JFA Technologies, R&D consultants physicists and engineers, LabView programing. PGP encryption keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 ID# 5B51964D : 152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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Mars Rover Fraud
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I happened across a web site, http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/I.Castelijn/ that promised to reveal the _real_ pictures from the Mars Rover, instead of the _fake_ ones released to the public. Since I found the web site regarding the "faking" of the Apollo moon landings amusing, though totally unbelievable, I decided to view the claimed Mars Rover fakery conspiracy theory, as well. Imagine my amazement when one of the claimed _real_ pictures contained a view of a wristwatch that I had lost in the Desert outside of Tucson a few years ago. Even the inscription from my mother was still legible! I'm warning the spooks on this list that if I don't get my wristwatch back, I'm going to blow the lid off of their whole Mars Rover scam in Smile magazine. I'm serious! Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.html "I AM a number! I am a free man!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNA5l65aWtjSmRH/5AQHA+wf+L8wD2sO49jbwkdGDKaMT6V0NYxqS8v6e 6IQXBkVEdhtNBWbgFB647smJ9TOR0Z9TFxcMGi0MDYw4X8CZPKJOzh3Al78S53PA ViseV1nMMFpViOjqSALChK9NtOE2pemAKGBJaTvjGZBzzi0ItSkRhS+JBfaByz3C tzBCwMx99kMnQrUVNHW6aC5hjj47WFSbGLLbLP5g6VJnGVLP/jRl3I/173KoGote VXRXAByWd+EWjYvACe/WIOt4rYiCGCG4WJgDi4UETOfYJoYgjqrjdZ8ljIzw/bL6 Bg2nI7wg//PQXSN/TMq8rWlwauYRLQ9i9EMK4KvuOm3Qq1tMzHGh7A== =0xyT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is copyrighted under the auspices of the Electronic Forgery Foundation. However, it was probably written by the person whose name it appears to be forged under. Confusing, isn't it? ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by mailhost＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Di and Dodi Run Over A Land Mine
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/5/97 4:54 AM, Toto (toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca) passed this wisdom: [snip] > I don't know, I don't care, and it is really none of my business. >What *is* my business is to view my fellow man/woman and perceive >if they are lifted up or further downtrodden by their interactions >with myself and others. I have seen the faces of the AIDS children >that she touched, when no one else would, and the lepers whom she >shook hands with, when others were afraid to do so, and I have seen >the light that she spread among those whom society had cast aside. This is the light in which I prefer to remember her .. thankyou for saying it so nicely. [snip] > You write that Diana's campaign against the use of land mines is >an unrealistic attempt to negate the cheap and effective defense >of the poorer countries. Perhaps what was needed was for her to >have the input of someone such as yourself who understands the need >for cheap and effective self-defence, so that she could concentrate >her efforts on removing landmines that are no longer needed, and >preventing the dispersal of landmines which are not truly needed >for self-defence, but are only serving as 'toys for boys' who want >to play soldier. .. here I can speak with some authority ... having lost a part of my anatomy to such a device ... for many years I quietly accepted what had happened to me as a forseeable consequence of having gone off to a war ... but in correspondance with my US Senator, Patrick Leahy, another major backer of the anti-landmine effort, I came to realize that the mines sowed along the trail from Phuc Loc(5) to Phuc Loc(6), of which I became one victim, could just as easily have maimed/killed any of the dozens of villagers who plied that trail every day. Further, when I was trained as an infantry officer by the Marine Corps in the use of mines we were taught to painstakingly prepare map overlays showing the location of each and every mine ... but when we got to that tropical SE Asian wonderland ... the way it was done was to plant em and forget em unless it was in your front yard ... that is immoral, no discussion! FWIW, my .02! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNBDV+MdZgC62U/gIEQJ+EwCeLd9/XBunjjX3LU0TMHHk1IKrgK8AoJjK 6zPkJXIZ0dj8zAMr932m1AMD =uGTd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys - Send Email Subject "Get PGP Key" "...if you drink much from a bottle marked 'poison,' it is almost certain to disagree with you, sooner or later" -- Lewis Carroll

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LYING FUCKS! / Behind the ELECTROMAGNETIC CURTAIN
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To everyone I know: I've had enough of the bullshit, mind-control fascism surfacing at an increasingly fast pace in an assault on freedom and privacy. I've also had enough of the constant lies of an established political power structure which is now so firmly entrenched in the seat of power that they no longer even bother to tell *_good_* lies. The final straw, for me, was the inevitable announcement that anyone paying the least attention could see coming from a mile away, despite all of the flag-waving, 'land of the free' speeches, and denials by those in power of their true intentions in regard to the future of free speech, liberty and privacy. ---- 5 September 1997, MSNBC: FBI Director Louis Freeh floats a new proposal at a congressional hearing to outlaw non-breakable crypto products. ---- Accordingly, I am pledging to henceforth exercise my right to free speech, in my own manner, right up to the time when we all face imprisonment for not only free speech, but for freedom of thought, as well. My manner is to call a lying fuck a _lying_fuck_; to call a rat fucker a _rat_fucker_; to call a fucking imbecile a _fucking _imbecile_; to call a Nazi piece of shit a _Nazi_ _piece_of_shit_. In the future, I plan to express myself in a manner which does not give support to the 'quiet lies' that are increasingly being told by the mainstream press and a timid public which are either too tired of fighting the fascists or have too much invested in the current system to risk rocking the boat by calling for an end to bullshit, draconian laws, and increasing oppression and imprisonment of the citizens of what were once free nations. I intend to do so in my private emails, my public posts, and in the editing of news that I forward to others. e.g. ---- NATION AT RISK? The Fascist White House, Terrorist FBI and co-conspirator intelligence agencies claim that the proliferation of unbreakable encryption products puts the nation at risk. Unnamed Criminals and Mythical terrorists are increasingly using unbreakable encryption products, Lying Fuck Freeh testiLied Wednesday. ---- I am forwarding this message to everyone in my email address book with the suggestion that they consider doing the same, or to take a similar action which may be more in line with their own character and predelictions. The bottom line: Our elected legislators, politicians, and public servants are *not* going to tell us the truth. The media is *not* going to tell us the truth. If the citizens don't speak truthfully to one another, then there is *no* hope of stemming the escalating assaults on privacy and liberty. As sole member of the TruthMonger Cult of One: I hereby declare an electronic state of war against the dictatorial, fascist entities who are attempting to build an ElectroMagnetic Curtain around an InterNet that served as a truly democratic forum for Free Netizens until the power structure declared it to be the forefront of a New World, while eschewing any intentions to bring it under the thumb of a New World Order. I suggest that the Lying Fascist Fucks who are mounting an assault on the freedom and privacy of their citizens lay in some Electronic Body Bags. Perhaps each truthful word I shoot in their direction will be but a negligable 'B-B' in reality, but I refuse to refrain from doing what I can, even if I am wrong about things having reached a stage where enough people will join in resistance to the assault on freedom and privacy to bring down the ElectroMagnetic curtain with a mountain of B-B's. I can't stop these dictatorial fascists from telling their lies, but I *can* still express my view of their crass assault on the constitutional rights of myself and others. I *can* call Louis Freeh, Lying Fuck Freeh. I *can* call Bill Clinton, Lying Nazi Schill Clinton. I *can* call Dianne Feinstein, Lying Cunt SwineStein. I not only *can*, but I *will*. I will fight with bytes, even though I know that, ultimately, these increasingly violent power mongers will respond with bullets if they perceive a great enough threat to risk exposing their true nature and intentions. I believe that I can fire a lot of B-B's at the ElectroMagnetic Curtain before I 'commit suicide', have a 'tragic accident', or unwittingly fire one of my electronic B-B's in the direction of heavily armed, camoflaged secret troops 'defending' the Electronic Border that the fascists are attempting to build around a formerly Free InterNet. Am I the only one who has noticed that free speech and private communication on the InterNet posed little 'threat' to society until the government decided to get increasingly involved? Think about it. _Who_is_the_enemy_? The Public? The Citizens? I think not... TruthMonger "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://bureau42.base.org/public/webworld "The Final Frontier" http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/carljohn

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Starting Date of the Digital Revolution
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friday, September 05, 1997

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Re: New GAK Bill
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cyberia-l(a)listserv.aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 01:01:59 -0400 From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <froomkin(a)law.miami.edu> Subject: Re: Mandatory key escrow bill text, backed by FBI This is shocking. For a legal analysis of why mandatory domestic key escrow would not (most likely) be constitutional for non-commercial messages, see parts III & IV of: http://www.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/articles/clipper.htm A. Michael Froomkin | +1 (305) 284-4285; +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) Associate Professor of Law | U. Miami School of Law | froomkin(a)law.miami.edu P.O. Box 248087 | http://www.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/ Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA | It's hot here. ---------- Here's an excerpt from the June version of the Secure Public Networks Act (McCain-Kerrey Bill S.909), the revised draft bill now being circulated that Declan quoted: TITLE I - DOMESTIC USES OF ENCRYPTION SEC. 101. LAWFUL USE OF ENCRYPTION. Except as otherwise provided by this Act or otherwise provided by law, it shall be lawful for any person within any State to use any encryption, regardless of encryption algorithm selected, encryption key length chosen, or implementation technique or medium used. SEC. 102. PROHIBITION ON MANDATORY THIRD PARTY ESCROW OF KEYS USED FOR ENCRYPTION OF CERTAIN COMMUNICATIONS. Neither the Federal Government nor a State may require the escrow of an encryption key with a third party in the case of an encryption key used solely to encrypt communications between private persons within the United States. SEC. 103. VOLUNTARY PRIVATE SECTOR PARTICIPATION IN KEY MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE. The participation of the private persons in the key management infrastructure enabled by this Act is voluntary. ---------- For full text of the June version: http://jya.com/s909.htm

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