December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: How to hold a key signing party?
by jpb＠miamisci.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 5:59 PM 10/10/95, you wrote: >Joe Block writes: > > What I have in mind is to have everyone who is planning on attending send > > me their key and its fingerprint.... > > > > This seems like a lot of work, which I don't mind, but if there is a more > > efficient method, I'd like to know about it. > >Doesn't make any difference to me, you nefarious agent of the Great >Man In The Middle you. > > > >[ You got to get up *pretty early in the morning* to put one over on >*me* like that. ] Each person at the party would confirm what their key signature was so the other attendees could check their handout. They then take the handout that they have personally checked the key signatures on home with them so that when they recieve the keys from yours truly they can compare the fingerprint they get with the fingerprint the owner claimed for the key, which they checked against the handout when they were at the party, yes? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMHtiEWGnwFiC3O2NAQFo5ggArfaPrtROH9QmB0luwrliH92fEguQAekd EsY46cEt1tGP3wXzvbVf6ArzZf/cs60Rsj71ufGVmPytF88VNfo/av0LhCGtNKAh imTTcWaFvMsSnpEm3qAUAWSJK5WVVlkW7wV0ZEt8YVrX7QZCaXqq2rKzCPwSh3Ga VToHUDBbRESgEOkS1FxKluZiXa1Ym5P4Nwepno72TXvn/V2flc7iItV0WpLbaL4p abNwCP/haFViMeg8QbmMXP5+hojFnptK/v7Wc/D7XlRFB6CezAY/duHBwPsNueWI t4zegApZulk/nJ9da319etZ8OPMWIy0Li7cHlfvwd4/7kbsDmJoLJg== =1qlc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Man in the Middle Revisited (but not for the last time)
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I suspect I'm not the only one getting weary of going around and around on this issue, so I'll confine my response to just one point: At 3:37 AM 10/11/95, Bryce wrote: >> Who any of these entities "really" are is irrelevant to me. (I don't even >> know if Hal Finney, who I met once a few years ago, is the "real" Hal >> Finney, nor do I really care.) > > >Well and good, Tim, but you *do* care if the entity calling itself "Hal >Finney" is being surrounded by the Man in the Channel ("Mitch") and all >of your communications with that entity are under Mitch's control. For >example, you may choose to enter a contract with the entity calling >itself "Hal Finney", and provide some sort of consulting service to it >in exchange for 10,000 cyberbucks. If Mitch is actually in control >then he could easily steal both the output of your consultation *and* >Hal's 10,000 cyberbucks and leave the two of you hating each other. Nope. au contraire, negatory. I *do not* care if the entity calling itself "Hal Finney" is being surrounded by an MITM. Only "Hal Finney the Key" can read messages I encrypt to the public key I got from him long ago, so if the "Hal + MITM" can do so, they are effectively one and the same. (Not really, in some other senses, but far beyond anything simple crypto can handle.) --Tim May Views here are not the views of my Internet Service Provider or Government. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: PC disk wipe software
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by bdavis(a)dg.thepoint.net (Brian Davis) on Tue, 10 Oct 10:47 AM >FYI the Justice Department requires degaussing a hard >drive before it can be declared surplus ... ----- The Washington Post, Oct 9, 1995. E-Mail That Comes Back And Bites. Even Deleted Messages Can Be Recovered for Court [excerpts] Computer sleuth John Jessen dredges computer files for electronic embarrassments that their authors thought were long gone. "Deleted" e-mail messages can pile up like little time bombs until someone such as Jessen arrives, carrying a court order and a stack of blank memory cartridges. "Can you really delete e-mail? Sure," Jessen said. "Does it happen as a common practice? No." Jessen is the founder of Electronic Evidence Discovery Inc., a Seattle company that since 1987 has been going after computer evidence in civil lawsuits. The nation's 25 million to 40 million users of e-mail are growing more comfortable with the medium. And more attorneys are recognizing e-mail's potential as a source of unguarded information about the companies they're suing. "People are very candid talking around the coffee machine." attorney Michael Patrick of Palo Alto, Calif., said. "They seem to behave the same way on the computer system. "They think they're speaking confidentially, so they're off the cuff," he said. "They're very often insulting. What they don't realize is it's all being recorded, and often those recordings are stored for a very long time. When you send a message, you lose control over where it goes." Many workers think their e-mail is private. It's not. Federal law allows employers to monitor employees' e-mail, and even if they don't, e-mail is fair game in lawsuits. When someone sues a company, the rules of discovery demand that the company produce all relevant business records. "The fact that they live in a computer rather than a file cabinet doesn't make any difference to the court," said Joan Feldman at Computer Forensics, another Seattle firm that specializes in this work. Often files retrieved include e-mail thought to have been erased long ago. It survives because the diligent computer system manager makes backup tapes of everything on the system every night, then stores those tapes for years. And so the files persist and multiply, aided by technological advances that continually add more storage capacity, more automatic backups and more redundancies to safeguard data from accidental erasure. "The computer is like a file cabinet tbat can open its own drawer, put a file on the copy machine and then slip the copy into another cabinet," Jessen said. "Sometimes I think it's alive." Jessen and Feldman augment their high-tech detective work by advising companies how to become less vulnerable to computer snoops like themselves: They recommend regular purges of old data, and they offer tips for avoiding e-mail blunders in the first place. Rule No. 1: Don't put anything on e-mail that you wouldn't want a jury to see. -----

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PKP Lawsuit progress report
by rschlafly＠attmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have a lawsuit against Public Key Partners and RSA Data Security. (Schlafly v. PKP & RSA, Case C-94-20512 SW PVT.) (1) PKP has been ordered dissolved by an arbiter. The MIT patent returns to RSA Data Security, and the Stanford patents go under the control of Cylink. I am happy to report that my lawsuit contributed to this outcome. (2) I will soon be deposing: Whit Diffie Ralph Merkle Martin Hellman Ron Rivest I will be asking all the obvious questions. My purpose is to break their patents. Does anyone have anything special for me to ask? If so, please send me your ideas. (3) There will be a hearing on the patent validity (and a couple of annoying technical legal issues) at 10:00 am, Dec. 6, 1995, in the court of Judge Spencer Williams, Federal Bldg, 280 S. First St, San Jose CA 95113. The US court clerk is at 408-291-7783. It is open to the public. Roger Schlafly rschlafly(a)attmail.com

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Checksums for current release versions of Netscape Navigator
by Jeff Weinstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This file contains checksums for the Netscape Navigator 1.12 and 1.22 distributions and patch files that are available on the Netscape ftp site under the directory ftp://ftp.netscape.com/netscape/. This file has been digitally signed using PGP to assure its authenticity. The version of PGP which was used to create the digital signature on this document was obtained from http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pgp-form.html/. This file was signed using my private key. It can be obtained from my web page using this URL: http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw/my-pgp-key.txt or by searching for 'jsw(a)netscape.com' from the PGP key server at mit: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-commands.html#extract There are three sets of checksums in this file. The first set of checksums uses MD5 to create 128-bit checksums that can not be forged. The second and third sets of checksums were generated using the two forms of the unix 'sum' command. The 'sum' command creates a 16-bit checksum, which can be used detect accidental corruption during download, but is too small to protect you from malicious tampering. There are two version of the checksums for the unix 'sum' command because unix vendors follow two different standards. I have labeled the checksums with the systems that they are good for. If you are performing the checksum operation on a unix system that is not listed, check both lists and make sure that one matches. --Jeff ============================================================ These MD5 checksums were generated with the 'md5sum' program from the PGP2.6.2 distribution, which was obtained from http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pgp-form.html/. 4355327d682ee02b34384cbb30e8042d ./mac/netscape-1.12.hqx 314326ea7f6e16a7ed51b4ddd32830dc ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_68K_update.hqx af1e3a626a3ba3e903e9268bdacdd879 ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_FAT_update.hqx dc70e43f7541cdcca334cf81a53fe5ab ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_PPC_update.hqx 44ab217346102d4bd3c8b648ac915eb7 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.alpha-dec-osf2.0.tar.Z 2b359e275d4f18fc532cc33eeda05f06 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.hppa1.1-hp-hpux.tar.Z 5eaba5768b4bc35e869659a720221eec ./unix/netscape-v112-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z 0b94e22d6e103dc1425eb5587be5e639 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.i486-unknown-linux.tar.Z 858389abea7cd4aa2211d28e4637cbf8 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.mips-sgi-irix5.2.tar.Z 0a8dedc135abe48405cd663d77a53496 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.rs6000-ibm-aix3.2.tar.Z 40a1c0418d4273b198bf82f4520bc483 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.sparc-sun-solaris2.3.tar.Z 5f0e785bdf1e7e6fadeb79a3cc77daf5 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3_U1.tar.Z d9e4b2c7d5b18992d900c3299fbbcf33 ./windows/n16e122.exe fd59a0505d0e29a20703409e47eef9ee ./windows/n32e122.exe 9cef44bb905ce05af46012482f1b1e28 ./windows/patch122/n16d122p.exe 77e5634c83b79615e8d085c9187721d7 ./windows/patch122/n32d122p.exe ============================================================ These checksums were generated using the Unix 'sum' command. These checksums are for the form of the sum command that is on SGI IRIX and HPUX systems. 33513 2993 ./mac/netscape-1.12.hqx 56041 482 ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_68K_update.hqx 36637 859 ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_FAT_update.hqx 28284 460 ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_PPC_update.hqx 39304 5287 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.alpha-dec-osf2.0.tar.Z 26165 4285 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.hppa1.1-hp-hpux.tar.Z 37396 3262 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z 26207 3164 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.i486-unknown-linux.tar.Z 39858 2068 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.mips-sgi-irix5.2.tar.Z 6109 2000 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.rs6000-ibm-aix3.2.tar.Z 2249 3420 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.sparc-sun-solaris2.3.tar.Z 62215 7254 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3_U1.tar.Z 18716 3254 ./windows/n16e122.exe 20238 3494 ./windows/n32e122.exe 6931 210 ./windows/patch122/n16d122p.exe 34741 480 ./windows/patch122/n32d122p.exe ============================================================ These checksums were generated using the Unix 'sum' command. These checksums are for the form of the sum command that is on Sun, DEC OSF/1, AIX, BSDI, and Linux systems. 51500 1497 ./mac/netscape-1.12.hqx 43890 241 ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_68K_update.hqx 62256 430 ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_FAT_update.hqx 09953 230 ./mac/patch_1.1_to_1.12/nscp_1.1_PPC_update.hqx 32352 2644 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.alpha-dec-osf2.0.tar.Z 03948 2143 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.hppa1.1-hp-hpux.tar.Z 02857 1631 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z 17319 1582 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.i486-unknown-linux.tar.Z 53470 1034 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.mips-sgi-irix5.2.tar.Z 05441 1000 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.rs6000-ibm-aix3.2.tar.Z 02463 1710 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.sparc-sun-solaris2.3.tar.Z 17806 3627 ./unix/netscape-v112-export.sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3_U1.tar.Z 22208 1627 ./windows/n16e122.exe 04365 1747 ./windows/n32e122.exe 32585 105 ./windows/patch122/n16d122p.exe 37352 240 ./windows/patch122/n32d122p.exe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMHt6O6wWZfp0yzT1AQGrgwP/QF1AY9Wp44OjK0he3E+IRq9VbuxXrn1H NjNWuSxOLlWrDYiIDu9L+pbCmz2Fu8+3S9c8J4sz80Rzd73kT5xL8dfbQBb7GwqD Xot99yYrwNaSPRkixHk+n1M4sVHe2UO6u+tZJDYM2PFcy5Ycdw7qQGvEfy1rJTWN 8Y/tYU9eQx4= =lu96 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist Netscape Communication Corporation jsw(a)netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw Any opinions expressed above are mine.

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Re: MITM evasion
by Jay Campbell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The message below (posted earlier today) caught my attention - I believe it is a (fake?) MITM-generated message, because Tim's sig file has changed recently (new domain name (got.net) and a disclaimer was added). The sig attached to this anonymous message is at least a month out of date. Even if this isn't just a mistake, it's not a true MITM attack, since this is a third party /not/ between Tim and toad.com ... more of a spoof. Do I win anything? >Return-Path: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:55:07 +0100 >Subject: MITM evasion >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: MITM evasion >From: anon-remailer(a)utopia.hacktic.nl (Anonymous) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Organization: Hack-Tic International, Inc. >Comments: Hack-Tic may or may not approve of the content of this posting >Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to <postmaster(a)utopia.hacktic.nl> >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > >Two years ago, I pointed out that getting a single message past >the man in the middle isn't good enough; you have to convince your Unconvinced, for one ^^^^^^^^ >readers that the key they received on one channel is more accurate >than the key they're receiving on all the other channels. >But if they'll believe that, they may also believe the man in the middle's >announcement that the key in your name on all the keyservers is >wrong, and the correct key is the one he's putting out. >Can't win either way, but it's still important to get the key out. > >My current key is 0x54696D4D; the fingerprint is >4D 65 44 75 53 61 21 2F 41 73 55 64 85 6D 21 7F. This key isn't registered with the MIT keyserver; not proof in any sense, but worth mentioning. > >.......................................................................... >Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, >tcmay(a)sensemedia.net | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero >408-728-0152 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, >Corralitos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. >Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. >"National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway." > > -- Jay Campbell Regional Operations Manager -=-=-=-=-=-=- Sense Networking (Santa Cruz Node) edge(a)got.net MIT PGP KeyID 0xACAE1A89 "On the Information Superhighway, I'm the guy behind you in this morning's traffic jam leaning on his horn."

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Enigma
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The NYT reports today on a British best-selling novel about breaking the Enigma codes, published this month in the US: Enigma, by Robert Harris, Random House. Harris interviewed many of the people who worked at Bletchley Park, and, most challenging, had to wrestle with complex mathematics to explain how the codes were broken ... by an elite comprised of an eccentric band of British and refugee intellectuals, aided by young women carefully picked from upper-class British families. So, Mr. Harris was asked, is the book a celebration of British amateurism? "There's a bit of that," he conceded. "Just as the British benefited from that tradition, the Germans were undone by the ruthless military efficiency, which made it easier to read their messages. The idea of brains taking on brute strength does have a certain romantic appeal." More than one reviewer said Harris was a thriller writer in the British tradition of Eric Ambler, Len Deighton, John Le Carre and John Buchan. "Harris has fashioned a story that is as humane, intelligent and gripping as documentary fiction can get, the critic Anthony Quinn wrote in The Financial Times. This is a story of intelligence, romance, twisted logic and necessary compromise," Peter Millar wrote in The Times of London, adding that it was "altogether top-class stuff."

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Type2.list/pubring.mix
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Open Mkt Sudden Infant Death
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Open Market Web Site Launches Free "Internet Security" Cambridge, MA, Oct 10 -- In a teleconference, Open Market launched a three-pronged attack on Internet "security breaches" that includes an online "security checker" for multivendor Web browsers belonging to end users, free upgrades from the Netscape Secure Server to the Open Market's Secure WebServer, and the giveaway of sample code to operators of "any extensible secure Web server." The trio of security remedies will all be available free of charge starting this week from the Open Market Web site at <http://www.openmarket.com>, officials reported during the teleconference. "Our entire business is based on people having trust in open networks," noted Shikhar Ghosh, Open Market's chief executive officer (CEO). "We'll make a significant investment, with the view that all of will suffer if (the public) loses trust." Consumers are only "gradually gaining some confidence" in the Internet, according to Ghosh. But recently, reports have surfaced of security problems with the Netscape Secure Server, and some Web sites using the Netscape product have been "saying they are going to go off the air." As a result, he added, Open Market is introducing a policy that allows licensed users of the Netscape Secure Server to download Open Market's Secure WebServer "at no cost." The other two planks in Open Market's new pro-security Web "resource center" are "informational," the journalists and analysts were told. Open Market will work with the makers of Web browsers to track information on "known problems" with browsers, including browser tampering. "We will (also) inform the (Web) software companies of problems," the CEO maintained. The Open Market Web site will perform a database look-up on the type of browser in use, and will then report back to the user on any security issues known to be associated with that kind of browser, elaborated Open Market's Win Treese. "One strength we have is that we don't have a browser. We are agnostic," Ghosh told the telephone audience. Open Market also performs "extensive testing" on Web browsers. "We do as many as several hundred versions of browsers coming in at any time. We definitely expect (to) unite the industry, rather than dividing the industry," he added. The sample code to be offered from the Open Market Web site will provide "underlying code" for "reference implementations on what are the major ways of handling the known (Internet security) problems," according to Ghosh. "To reiterate, security is one of those pillars on which the entire industry rests," contended the Open Market chief, to conclude the teleconference. Contact: Open Market, 617-621-9500; Press Contacts: Wendy Ziner, Open Market, 617-374-6508; Dawn Geary or Merrill Freund, Schwartz Communications for Open Market, 617-431-0770) -----

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Public Awarreness of Security
by Martin Diehl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On October 11, 1995, John Markoff of the NYTimes writes: "Newly publicized weaknesses in the basic structure of the Internet [snip] .. advantage of the fault-finding talents of the Berkeley researchers and other like-minded experts, the company announced a contest today called Netscape Bugs Bounty [snip]" On October 11, 1995, Joan E. Rigdon of the Wall Street Journal writes: "The software industry is starting to sweep the bugs out of the closet [snip] ... Netscape is trying to systematically tap the intelligence of the hackers instead of randomly waiting for them to find mistakes. [snip]" Both of these stories bring out not only the flaws in the Internet and software to use the Internet, but also the work going on both at the software developers as well as that by groups such as ours that are active in identifying the risks. Congratulations to the Cypherpunks Martin G. Diehl

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