December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

DCSB: Elliptic Curve Cryptography and Digital Commerce
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: rah(a)mail.shipwright.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:13:49 -0400 To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu, dcsb-announce(a)ai.mit.edu From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: DCSB: Elliptic Curve Cryptography and Digital Commerce Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents Dr. Christof Paar Cryptography and Data Security Group, Worcester Polytechnic Institute Elliptic Curve Cryptography and Digital Commerce Tuesday, September 2, 1997 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA Elliptic Curve (EC) public-key cryptosystems have matured from an area of mainly theoretical interest to a highly practical security tool. EC are a general-purpose public-key scheme which can provide tasks such as digital signature, key establishment, and encryption. EC are extremely attractive because the required operand length is dramatically reduced compared to RSA and DSA-type algorithms: The security of an RSA system with 1024 bits corresponds to the security of an EC system with only 160 bits. This can result in considerably faster processing times, e.g., for digital signature verification, and shorter certificates. One application area of special interest are smart cards. This talk will give a brief, non-technical introduction to EC system. Current security estimations relatively to RSA will be provided. We will talk about performance and the adoption of EC systems in standard bodies. Christof Paar leads the Cryptography and Data Security group in the ECE department of Worcester Polytechnic Institute. Dr. Paar's research interests include security issues in wireless and ATM networks, smart cards, efficient implementation of elliptic and hyperelliptic curve public-key algorithms, and hardware implementation of cryptosystems. Dr. Christof Paar received a BSEE degree from the Technical College of Cologne, Germany. He obtained an MSEE degree from the University of Siegen, Germany, and did graduate research at Michigan Technological University. From 1991-1994 he worked as research fellow at the Institute for Experimental Mathematics in Essen, Germany, from where he received a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering. In 1993 and '94 he spent time as a visiting researcher at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, September 2, 1997, from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, on One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $30.00. This price includes lunch, room rental, various A/V hardware, and the speaker's lunch. ;-). The Harvard Club *does* have dress code: jackets and ties for men (and no sneakers or jeans), and "appropriate business attire" (whatever that means), for women. Fair warning: since we purchase these luncheons in advance, we will be unable to refund the price of your lunch if the Club finds you in violation of the dress code. We will attempt to record this meeting and put it on the web in RealAudio format at some future date We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really* know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, August 30, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", in the amount of $30.00. If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Upcoming speakers for DCSB are: October Peter Cassidy Military Fiat and Digital Commerce November Carl Ellison Identity and Certification for Electronic Commerce December James O'Toole Internet Coupons January Joseph Reagle "Social Protocols": Meta-data and Negotiation in Digital Commerce We are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, and you would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Commmittee, care of Robert Hettinga, <mailto: rah(a)shipwright.com> . For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . We look forward to seeing you there! Cheers, Robert Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNAGu58UCGwxmWcHhAQEnOAf+IpalsvwPN7bLj4/kVWMQ6MkTFlYEsh5N twWf89hiiSVWlalPuWXmlVbu3AkwBc3oIzde3ZKg0ujlwa9Va0TDquPYhm6B4LvB pKqX9AqHortwmxKSBpesXoxGmhetIQLGrgP2nbiSCpr6g6B4OilHrBJJ0dGL1/XN M5Ca+O76cL/bUcdDIeuYASzk+DI2hCaub9Ir+WpXLXEoTqEFm4PrLI9uC9NlgUHs umBiAnOzGvLvUho0/VQQ0MX9QYGc1t72l+DrFkhmnkj9FSpLgOExwF8GkeJJ6S7I MNgayKwqQU/GKgjpG7UZKxNdIWWty98V44yuuelO62hZb2mtO8c7Ag== =eybl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Bernstein decision is out!
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Judge Patel has made her decision, and it is up on the Web at http://www.eff.org/. We're still preparing the legal analysis, but the basic outline is that she declares the Commerce Dept. export-control scheme unconstitutional. She also issued an injunction against the Commerce Dept. preventing them from enforcing these regulations against Prof. Bernstein or others who distribute his software. More details later... John Gilmore

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Re: Welfare / Norplant
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Peter Trei wrote: >This scheme: [...] >* Targets young women who would be likely to become 'welfare > mothers'. The parents of such young women would be highly > motivated to have their dependent daughters participate. ................................................... Perhaps so. But it reminds me of a statement I heard in the movie "The Last of the Mohicans": "Sir, I would rather be guilty of the most grievous error of judgement, than forfeit authority over my decisions." I don't think it wise to encourage young women to allow themselves to be swayed to move in directions which others prepare for them. It would be of greater benefit - to them primarily and secondarily to their community - that they be instructed on matters of Life in the Real World, and on the manner of strengthening their resolve against any kind of external persuasions. This would include the sexual advances of males who have no plans to deal with the consequences of their impregnations. .. Blanc

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Are You A Great Lover?
by 68525898＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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But, if your goal was just to be a great lover, you could achieve that with a better knowledge of the female anatomy based upon the latest scientific sexual research). With a few diagrams, and a little practice, most any man can be confident in his ability to please most any woman. This is not rocket science! But, it is science. You can know the difference between a clitoral or vaginal orgasm. They know which type women experience most frequently, and can determine which type she is having. Masters are very familiar with the famous G Spot...and you can be too! They have much experience with its amazing capacity to render a woman virtually powerless to her sexual passions! You can easily locate the G Spot and know how to best stimulate it. This knowledge, alone, will make you very much "In Demand" with women. You can avoid the FIVE FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKES OF FEMALE STIMULATION. Mostfemales are capable of achieving multiple orgasms during a lovemaking session. 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Similarly, becoming a Sex Master requires that you understand that there is more to sex than just the physical aspect. True Masters approach sex as the magical, mystical activity that it is. And, Masters understand how to use what they have learned, sexual It amazes me. Sex is everywhere.... television, movies, books and magazines. It is estimated that the average male has a sexual thought every 19 seconds! It's been thirty years since the sexual revolution. Computer scientists are working on developing virtual sex. Yet, most men's real sex lives are still absolutely boring. Worse than boring.... they are downright disappointing. I am convinced that most men do not enjoy sex. Really! I make my living speaking and writing about sexual performance. I have had the opportunity to speak with thousands of men Many of these men open up to me. And very, very few of them are truly satisf Before attending one of our seminars, many men are frustrated with their sexual abilities because they believe ... "You Either Have it Or you Don't." This is, without a doubt, the biggest misconception that unsuccessful lovers have. If you don't have it, you can develop it. Your sexual ability and satisfaction can be completely within your control. With the exception of those men that have an actual medical problem, only the proper knowledge and training is necessary to become sexually proficient. This feeling of control will ignificantly increase your satisfaction with your love life. "If sex is great, in a relationship, its only 10% important. If it isn't...its 90% important!" Masters have learned how "mind-blowing" sex can be used to make their relationships better. Although great sex does not guarantee a great relationship, it can be a wonderful start. Many of the skills necessary to becoming a sexual master are perfect for developing a more open and intimate relationship. In the past, only personal clients or participants in S.P.I. clinics had the opportunity to learn the secrets Mastering Sexual Performance in such a complete and powerful way. But, I have recently finished a book, SEXUAL MASTERY FOR THE NINETIES. This book is a comprehensive summary of my eight years of research, counseling and clinical presentations. IMPORTANT: THE INFORMATION IN THIS BOOK IS NOT THE SAME, GENERAL (AND USELESS) SEXUAL ADVICE YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH. IT IS ONE HUNDRED (100) PAGES OF THE MOST SPECIFIC,EXPLICIT AND DETAILED COMPILATION OF POWERFUL AND EFFECTIVE SEXUAL PERFORMANCE TECHNIQUES EVER PRINTED. Here is a partial list of the contents... 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In the past month, she has climaxed during intercourse (at least once!) every time. This is what I always thought sex was supposed to be." M.K., 35 New York, N.Y. "Thirty two years old and I hadn't really ever found a 'G Spot.' Now I could find it with my hands tied behind my back...and we may try that soon! Until I read your book, I was convinced that all female orgasms werebasically a clitoris thing. So did my fiancee...until now. She told me that the orgasms I've been giving her lately (using your G Spot stimulation techniques), are completely different, deeper and more satisfying." J. A., 32 Houston, TX NOW YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN THE LOVEMAKING SECRETS OF THE MASTERS, COMPLETELY RISK FREE*! Thousands of Sexual Mastery seminar participants have paid $395.00 to attend our weekend programs. I am about to launch a national infomercial advertising campaign based upon my SEXUAL MASTERY seminars. Through this infomercial, this book will sell for $69.95. I am presently offering SEXUAL MASTERY FOR THE NINETIES at only $24.95... for internet orders received before September 8, 1997. To obtain your own personal edition of SEXUAL MASTERY FOR THE NINETIES, send a Check or Money Order for $28.95 ($24.95+$4.00 S/H) to: BOOK OFFER S.P.I. 910 BEAVER GRADE ROAD DEPT. 3015-S826 CORAOPOLIS, PENNSYLVANIA 15108 * S.P.I. Unconditional Money-Back Guarantee: Your edition will be shipped IMMEDIATELY. "If you are not absolutely satisfied, for any reason, return the book for a complete refund. We will politely return your money, no questions asked." Wishing you Mastery in all, Robert Irwin Executive Director Sexual Performance Institute

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Bernstein decision
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[There will be many chances to talk to the press today about this. Call them up. Tell them what it means.] Lucky Green said: > The ruling provides an interesting data point, but is inconsequential > to the software industry. Jonathan Wienke said: > The decision seems to be a step in the right > direction, but a VERY small one. However you slice it, getting a Federal judge to declare both crypto export control regimes unconstitutional is a major accomplishment. This court case has done what a decade of lobbying, two decades of citizen activism, and a decade of crypto software entrepreneurship were not able to do. (Though all these things contributed greatly.) It stopped the export-control machinery in its tracks. Last December, the State Department stopped issuing crypto export licenses. Hugh Daniel had applied for one; it came back marked "returned without action". We later found out, by comparing notes with other export applicants, that this was a general policy; they didn't want to risk enforcing an unconstitutional law. They never did resume. A few weeks later, the Commerce Department started issuing "EI" export licenses under new regulations. Now there's no other department to turn to. We haven't found a third law that lets them regulate crypto export or use. And Judge Patel mentioned in her decision that "the government cannot avoid the constitutional deficiencies of its regulations by rotating oversight of them from department to department". Though she decided that they had not deliberately evaded her previous ruling, she's warning them not to try it. The next few weeks should be very interesting. There's a mailing list for announcements in the case, as appeals are filed, final orders come out, any hearings are scheduled, etc. Send mail to <majordomo(a)toad.com> containing the line "subscribe bernstein-announce". These announcements will also automatically go to cypherpunks, but there are people who don't want the volume but do want to get the news. Let them know. Thanks to all the cypherpunks for your ongoing support and participation in the case! John

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Re: lack of evolution (So What!)
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Feanor <feanor(a)nym.alias.net> writes: > On Aug 25, 21:41, Ray Arachelian wrote: > } Subject: Re: lack of evolution (So What!) > > > > On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Peter Trei wrote: > > > > > One factor which everyone seems to be overlooking in this > > > thread is the future impact of biotechnology. > > > > <much stuff deleted> > > > > I see someone's been recently reading Beyond This Horizon by Heinlein. :) > > Sounded a lot more like Sterling/Crystal Express, the Shaper/Mechanist section, > to me. Actually, Vernor Vinge is a much bigger influence. Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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Some Easy Money !
by jp＠mlmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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There's something wrong when...Shitty Laws!
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think I first realized just how much Tim May's .sig lines are a genuine harbinger of the future when I arrived at www.compost.org to find that there are "Compost Standards in Canada," as explained by The Composting Council of Canada. In short, if I wanted to stack some turds on top of each other, then I had to keep in mind that: "In Canada, three organizations are responsible for the development of standards and regulations for compost and composting: Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (AAFC), the provincial and territorial governments, and the Standards Council of Canada (SCC) (through the Bureau de normalisation du Québec (BNQ)). This collective responsibility reflects government regulatory requirements (of both the AAFC and the provinces and territories) as well as voluntary industry initiatives (BNQ)." { The word "voluntary" was in _bold_ print! (Mandatory-Voluntary?) } When I first got the urge to phone these people up and scream, "YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT _SHIT_, FOR SHIT'S SAKE!" was when I read that, "All compost that is sold in Canada must comply with the requirements of the Fertilizers Act. This includes provisions for product safety, benefit claims and labeling." Product safety? (Turds are dangerous? You can 'slip' on them?) Benefit claims? (You mean turds _don't_ cure cancer?) Labeling? (It's SHIT! It's hard to fool people about that.) I found out I could avoid fines and imprisonment by reading, "...a National Standard of Canada entitled: 'Organic Soil Conditioners - Composts (BNQ); Guidelines for Compost Quality (CCME); and future amendments to the Fertilizers Act and Regulations (AAFC).'" "Future amendments?" I had to worry about past turds coming back to haunt me, if the laws should change in the future? I was consoled by the fact that these requirements were in the best interests of the different organizations involved, and to ensure that all of the turds in Canada are "consistent." "These provide for a significant level of national consistency by containing virtually identical technical requirements while ensuring that the mandates and interests of the different organizations are realized." My consolation was short-lived, however, as I soon found out that if I didn't understand the proper turd linguistics involved, I could still be in big trouble: "Definition of Compost" "'Composting' and 'compost' are two distinct terms. The former refers to the bio-oxidation process and the latter refers to the resulting product: stabilized organic matter." "As agreed upon by the CCME, BNQ and AAFC, compost is: 'A solid mature product resulting from composting, which is a managed process of bio-oxidation of a solid heterogeneous organic substrate including a thermophilic phase.'" Then, of course, to remain free from fine and imprisonment, I had to be aware of the: Classification of Compost according to: BNQ Standards CCME Guidelines AAFC Regulations As well as keeping in mind: "The Four Criteria: Maturity, Foreign Matter, Trace Elements and Pathogens" Maturity? (You can 'molest' a turd? I could be a 'turdophile'?) Foreign Matter? (Hey! There's a turd in your turd!) Trace Elements? (I have to give the turds multi-vitamins if they don't measure up?) Pathogens? (They mention checking for "sharp objects" in it. If it is a 'long' sharp object, is it illegal to carry the turd in California?) After memorizing the Fertilizer Act and all other regulations and legislation involved, I piled some turds in my yard, next to the garden. It was a week later, when I began to follow the instructions to turn it over and mix it up that I was arrested for "being involved in 'bad shit'." The worst part is that because I was turning it over and stirring it when arrested, I will get an "extra five years" for "use of encryption in the commision of a composting crime." ShitMonger

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Re: Commerce Department encryption rules declared unconstitutional
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan wrote: >I think that's about right. One of the important questions was how broadly >Patel would rule, whether her ruling would apply just to Bernstein & >associates or whether she would enjoin the government from enforcing >ITAR/EAR at all. > >Unfortunately, she chose the former. But look on the bright side: her >narrow decision may be less likely to be reversed, no? Does this not shift now to Peter Junger's suit: same issues, broader challenge, same opposing arguments? Did Patel rule narrowly in Bernstein to set the stage for the broader case in the works? BTW, is there a suit being readied to follow Peter's? Karn II? PRZ 6.0? What say, Peter, Lee, Cindy, Phil, Phil, Anthony et al?

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Anybody with a Ricochet willing to Visit?
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is mostly directed at Bay Areans. Anybody with a Metricom Ricochet modem willing to stop by my place in Corralitos and help me determine if I can get some kind of coverage in my area? (Yes, I know about the coverage maps at www.metricom.com and such....the coverage is show extending as far down the coast as parts of Aptos, but ending before my area, which is about 7 miles, over a ridge, from Aptos. East of Santa Cruz.) At a recent party in Boulder Creek, I saw folks getting coverage by moving their laptops around, and BC is not on the official coverage map. So what I'd like to do is see if my area can actually get reasonable signal. I'll provide the beer.... (I may have another Cypherpunks party at my place in September or October, but I'm more leery now of issuing an open invitation than I have been in the past. A lot of odd people read the list. And I'd hate to have any Feds see the invitation and then show up....never know what they might see or hear at a party, or what gifts they might leave behind, like bugs or dope. So if I have another party, it may not be an "open to all who see the invitation" one, and may have to be limited to those I have actually met.) Meanwhile, I'm interested in Ricochet coverage in my area. Contact me if you have a Ricochet on your laptop and if you are interested in visiting. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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