December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Who Is A Libertarian?
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well there has been some talk on the list of what libertarianism is and what it stands for including an unfounded attack by Jim Choate worthy of Kent Crispin. For your enjoyment and education I shall once again quote from Dean Russell with a piece he wrote in "Ideas on Liberty", May 1955: "Who is a Libertarian?" Those of us who favor individual freedom with personal responsibility have been unable to agree upon a generally acceptable name for ourselves and our philosophy of liberty. This would be relatively unimportant except for the fact that the opposition will call us by some name, even though we might not desire to be identified by any name at all. Since this is so, we might better select a name with some logic instead of permitting the opposition to saddle us with an epithet. Some of us call ourselves "individualists", but others point out that the opposition often uses that word to describe a heartless person who doesn't cars about the problems and aspirations of other people. Some of us call ourselves "conservatives", but that term describe many persons who base their approval of an institution more on its age than on its inherent worth. Many of us call ourselves "liberals". And it is true that the word "liberal" once described persons who respected the individual and feared the use of mass compulsions. But the leftists have now corrupted that once-proud term to identify themselves and their program of more government ownership of property and more controls over persons. As a result, those of us who believe in freedom must explain that when we call ourselves liberals, we mean liberals in the uncorrupted classical sense. At best, this is awkward and subject to misunderstanding. A GOOD AND HONORABLE WORD Here is a suggestion: Let those of us who love liberty trade-mark and reserve for own use the good and honorable word "libertarian". Webster's New International Dictionary defines a libertarian as "one who holds to the doctrine of free will; also, one who upholds the principles of liberty, esp. individual liberty of thought and action." In popular terminology, a libertarian is the opposite of an authoritarian. Strictly speaking, a libertarian is one who rejects the idea of using violence or the threat of violence-legal or illegal-to impose his will or viewpoint upon any peaceful person. Generally speaking, a libertarian is one who wants to be governed far less than he is today. * A libertarian believes that the government should protect all persons equally against external and internal aggression, but should otherwise generally leave people alone to work out their own problems and aspirations. While a libertarian expects the government to render equal protection to all persons against outright fraud and misrepresentation, he doesn't expect the government to protect anyone from the consequences of his own free choices. A libertarian holds that persons who make wise choices are entitled to enjoy the fruits of their wisdom, and that persons who make unwise choices have no right to demand that the government reimburse them for their folly. * A libertarian expects his government to establish, support, and enforce the decisions of impartial courts of justice - courts which do not recognize or refer to a person's race, religion, or economic status. If justice is to be rendered, the decisions of these courts must be as binding upon government officials and their actions as upon other persons and their actions. * A libertarian respects the right of every person to use and enjoy his honestly acquired property - to trade it, to sell it, or even to give it away - for he knows that human liberty cannot long endure when that fundamental right is rejected or even seriously impaired. * A libertarian believes that the daily need of the people can best be satisfied through the voluntary processes of a free and competitive market. And he holds the strong belief that free persons, using their own honestly acquired money, are in the best possible possible position to understand and aid their fellow men who are in need of help. * A libertarian favors a strictly limited form of government with many checks and balances -and divisions of authority- to foil the abuses of the fearful power of government. And generally speaking, he is one who sees less, rather than more, need to govern the actions of others. * A libertarian has much faith in himself and other free persons to find maximum happiness and prosperity in a society wherein no person has the authority to force any other peaceful person to conform to his viewpoints or desires in any manner. His way of life is based on respect for himself and for all others. * A libertarian doesn't advocate violent rebellion against prevailing governments - except as a last resort before the concentration camps. But when a libertarian sees harm rather than good in certain acts of government, he is obligated to try his best to explain to others who advocate those measures why such compulsory means cannot bring the ends which even they desire. * The libertarian's goal is friendship and pease with his neighbors at home and abroad. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNBtn2I9Co1n+aLhhAQG6kQP/WlP/Nd7iDeRe4XVd5FYhUP3IKXpFkl6S 0z8aKSkdfuUVrr5cLEiK33EZ7PeemG1xOlNuchZrjBuLeFAhwwgHaJOaIK4L4WSQ T0evXKHd+lMU57VjgZhhOeR/gBG0evTTwhvSsaUgT0yRj/ImKm+dLuJB6KqArA3b bs7XFBjbPcQ= =Qlhm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Today's meeting
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to everybody that showed up for today's meeting. Much is happening. And it is not just the evil legislation moving through Congress. Cypherpunks have been busy writing code. A very useful Ecash implementation compatible with DigiCash's protocol will be released next week. Onion Routers have been ported to Linux. Other semi-clandestine projects are moving forward as well. Again people asked me where to find some pictures from the Cypherpunks field trip to HIP'97. One more time: all archives are accessible via http://www.hip97.nl/ Some of the better archives are Joichi Ito's pages at http://www.ito.com/mpeg/hip/ which amongst other things features an MPEG of myself as a DJ Next, check out the HIP'97 network site at http://spin.vpro.nl/hip.shtml You have to go a few levels deep before seeing the usual suspects. And you haven't lived until you see the RealVideo of Brian the HIP Brain http://magazine.dds.nl/XArtikel.phtml?ArtID=156&KatID=7 In fact, there are about five or six articles about us on this semi-official HIP journal site. http://magazine.dds.nl/XKaterng?KatIDnu=7 Have fun, --Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. DES is dead! Please join in breaking RC5-56. http://rc5.distributed.net/

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17 Dec '03

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Proxies
by Sam 'MaCpHReaK' Chua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know of any public proxies? Knowing that your sojourns through the net go through your Government's proxies is really unnerving.

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We received your mail
by NYT Web Customer Service 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: unSAFE won't pass?
by Vin McLellan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Will Rodger <rodger(a)worldnet.att.net> declared: >It may make for good copy, but I think it's just fantasy to think the >administration or their opponents, for that matter, will get what >they want this year. Let them swarm. Who cares. > >At earliest, August of 1998 before anything passes - and even that is >highly optimistic. Will: Could you please explain the logic, numbers, and procedural limitations of congressional action that lead you to this conclusion? Why not now? Why not between now and August '98? Why the deadline/target-date of August '98? Suerte, _Vin "Cryptography is like literacy in the Dark Ages. Infinitely potent, for good and ill... yet basically an intellectual construct, an idea, which by its nature will resist efforts to restrict it to bureaucrats and others who deem only themselves worthy of such Privilege." _ A thinking man's Creed for Crypto/ vbm. * Vin McLellan + The Privacy Guild + <vin(a)shore.net> * 53 Nichols St., Chelsea, MA 02150 USA <617> 884-5548

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Re: unSAFE won't pass?
by John Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com>: >By late September, the Commerce committee will vote on SAFE. By >mid-October, the committee chairs should have worked out a compromise >package. This goes to the Rules committee, chaired by Solomon. Until last >week he vowed to block SAFE. Now he'd like, I'm told, to get the FBI's >version to the floor immediately. There are, however, only so many slots >on the suspension calendar. The thing I still don't understand is why anyone thinks the house will support the new bill. There were hundreds of co-sponsors for SAFE in its original form. The modified version is exactly the opposite of the original SAFE. So it seems like a majority of house members should oppose the bill. "John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: cypherpunks-j & CDR - cross subscription? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 07:36:25 +0200 > To: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> > From: Joichi Ito <jito(a)eccosys.com> > Subject: Re: cypherpunks-j & CDR - cross subscription? > Cc: sen(a)eccosys.com > > > Please let me know when you get cypherpunks-e up and running and I'll start > > dumping to it from this end. Also please subscribe 'cpunks(a)ssz.com' to your > > cypherpunks-e list so that I get outgoing. > > OK. Just set up the list. I am using ezmlm with qmail in its vanilla form. > I'm not sure what it uses for duplicates and loop control.. hmm... > I am leaving for Tokyo from Austria in one hour so maybe it is a bad idea > to subscribe cpunks(a)ssz.com until I'm back? > > In any case, please put cypherpunks-e(a)htp.org on the distribution for the > list. If you think that your list can take care of all of the loop control, > then can you tell me, or send mail to cypherpunks-e-subscribe(a)htp.org and > add yourself to the ML? > > Thanks for all of your help and appreciate very much being added to your > network. > > - Joi > > -- > Ars Electronica 9/8-9/14: Contact VIA GSM +49-171-357-9233 > PGP Key: http://pgp.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2D9461F1 > PGP Fingerprint: 58F3 CA9A EFB8 EB9D DF18 6B16 E48D AF2A 2D94 61F1 > Home Page: http://domino.garage.co.jp/jito/joihome.nsf > To subscribe to my personal mailing list send mailto:friends-subscribe@ji.to > Tonga is not a signatory to the Berne or the Paris Intellectual Property > Conventions I just got the chance to add the link. They should be online for receive only until Jiochi adds the cpunks(a)ssz.com subscription on his end. We were originaly considering adding the cypherpunks-j list but the issue of non-english language traffic arose. We compromised I suppose... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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