December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Anon posts (was irritating posts...)
by dfloyd＠runner.utsa.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Mon Jun 13 14:23 CDT 1994 > X-Sender: ben@localhost > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 12:17:00 -0700 > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > From: Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu > Subject: Re: (None) > Precedence: bulk > > At 12:50 PM 6/13/94 -0500, Jeff Gostin wrote: > >dfloyd(a)runner.utsa.edu (Douglas R. Floyd) writes: > > > >> How rude is it for people to post (or mail to a mailing list) anon messages > >> encrypted with someone's PGP key? It makes it easy for the receiver to > >> obtain it, but how irritating is it to people? > > Fairly. In fact, it's considered downright rude. It's like sitting > >around a table of, say, 3 people, and whispering with someone next to you. > >The first person is you -- you're sending the message. The second person > >is your friend -- he's recieving it. The third is me -- I'm just watching > >two people whispering. Further, newsgroups are a very inappropriate place > >to send private mail for propogation. > > Might it be appropriate, though, to create an alt group for that purpose? > Sort of the digital equivalent of putting "coded" messages in the personals > section of your favorite newspaper's classified section. You know--"John, > you have five days to pay up" means to meet at the Ritz for dinner next > Thursday, and "I love you, Sally" means to run for the border. > > But far, far more effective digitally. > > Could be especailly useful for people "in the field," considering how many > universities and other places permit Usenet posting without an account, so > long as your IP is considered local--easier to get access. > > > --Jeff > > b& > > -- > Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu, Arizona State University School of Music > net.proselytizing (write for info): Protect your privacy; oppose Clipper. > Voice concern over proposed Internet pricing schemes. Stamp out spamming. > Finger ben(a)tux.music.asu.edu for PGP 2.3a public key. > > That is a good idea, creating a special USENET group for coded messages. Alt.security.coded.messages would be a good moniker. Personally, I am not familar with gopherholes or message havens, so I do not know how good they are, and can log telnets in. It is harder to log nntp reads of alt.security.coded.messages or such. If an admin is very nosy, they could be snooping your terminal and packets as well, though... Another idea could be an anonymous FTP site, but someone can go and delete all the messages on there, and ftps are logged as well... Any better ideas on being able to anon-post and anon-read with as few ways for a third party to log as possible? (This is for my curiosity only, as I rarely have anything worth saying that needs this much protection.)

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Economist Clipper Article
by kentborg＠world.std.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lead article in the Science and Technology section of this week's Economist is about Clipper. As usual for the Economist, it is really quite good. Good description of the LEAF and Blaze's hack. Mentions the 47,000 CPSR signatures, Wired, and makes a good case for how a "voluntary" standard might not be, and the export issues. Wish all general-interest publications were so well done. The profile of Clipper is rising, and the press is not too shiny for the NSA. -kb, the Economist-reading Kent P.S. In the middle of the page is a great line-drawing of a evil-looking cloaked spy in hat and dark glasses, poised with a dagger and skeleton key at a key-hole equipped computer. Wish I had a high-res scanner, Postscript-ized those with fast RIPs could get it in its full copyright-breaking glory.

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Big Brother wants the shirt off your back
by paul＠hawksbill.sprintmrn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Although not exactly crypto-related, I couldn't forego the opportunity to pass this along - From: risks(a)CSL.SRI.COM (RISKS Forum) Newsgroups: comp.risks Subject: RISKS DIGEST 16.14 Message-ID: <CMM.0.90.1.771548444.risks(a)chiron.csl.sri.com> Date: 13 Jun 94 23:00:44 GMT Sender: daemon(a)ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: risks(a)csl.sri.com Distribution: world Organization: The Internet Lines: 644 Approved: risks(a)csl.sri.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:16 EDT From: Lynn R Grant <Grant(a)DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL> Subject: Big brother wants the shirt off your back Here's another risk on the horizon. We may have to wait a few years, though. From the June 1994 issue of Bobbin, "The premier news and information source of the global sewn products industry": Groups such as the American Textile Partnership (AMTEX), a research consortium that links the sewn products industry with the Department of Energy's national laboratories, also are looking at RF technology as a means to improve the production process. In a research project called the Embedded Electronic Fingerprint, long-term work is underway to develop a computer-type device the size of a grain of wheat that could be attached to a garment and used through the entire product life cycle. "A manufacturer could program into the device information unique to a garment, such as the size, color, style, line, or plant of manufacture, care instructions, etc.," explains Jud Early, director of research and development for the Textile/Clothing Technology Corp, [TC]**2. "There also would be a large amount of blank memory that could be used for anti-counterfeit tracking and more." Since each tag would have a unique identity, in-process inventory could be tracked easily using RF units--without ever touching garments or having to open shipping boxes. For example, a carton could be passed through a reading system, which would verify the contents against the packing list. So, all that is needed is for the clerk at the store to capture the identity of the shirt, perhaps through a barcode on the tag (so they wouldn't have to install the special shirt readers), and they already know your identity from your credit card number (unless someone else buys your shirts for you), so they can track your movements by setting up shirt readers in various places. But that might take more collusion between government and the stores than we want to speculate. So try this: a crime is committed. A few days later, you walk past a hidden shirt reader, and are immediately approached by an officer of the law, who arrests you for the crime. "But I was nowhere near the scene of the crime," you protest. "On the contrary," the officer counters, "one of our hidden shirt readers detected you shirt in the vicinity of the crime. You must be guilty." One would hope that the manufacturers of these devices don't accidentally program duplicate serial numbers in them. And you should think twice about lending your shirt to your girlfriend. Lynn Grant Grant(a)DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL ------------------------------

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Traffic Analysis papers, where?
by peb＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The pointer to oml(a)eloka.demon.co.uk died due to bounced mail (bounced after 32 days!). Does anyone have other pointers to papers on traffic analysis? Paul E. Baclace peb(a)netcom.com

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URGENT Action required (NJ folks only) (fwd)
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message:

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UPDATE 2: Crypto export campaign - more fax numbers
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

YOUR letters, faxes and calls are needed now to ensure that the cryptography, privacy and security provisions of the Cantwell Export Administration Act are preserved in bill HR3837 - help strike a blow against Clipper and for freely distributable software like PGP and RIPEM. If you can't fax directly, you can send your message to glickman(a)eff.org. EFF will fax or hand-deliver it for you to the Committee Chair, Rep. Dan Glickman. Updates on the Fax numbers of the House Intelligence Committee. Subcommittee fax: +1 202 225 1991 Sometimes does not answer. Keep trying! it IS a working fax number. Rep phone fax D KS Glickman, Daniel +1 202 225 6216 +1 202 225 5398 Chair Rep. Glickman's staff has finally released his fax number. D TX Coleman, Ronald D. +1 202 225 4831 +1 202 225 4831 This fax number is also a voice line. Staff manually switch to fax if they hear fax tones. You may wish to call by voice to make sure they do this if your fax attempts fail. If you don't get thru, call the Committee, and ask for the voice number, it may have been changed. D AL Cramer Jr, Robert (Bud) +1 202 225 4801 +1 202 225 4392 Rep. Cramer's staff has finally released his fax number. D MO Gephardt, Richard A. +1 202 225 2671 +1 202 225 7414 Rep. Gephardt has changed his fax number. The correct one is given here. R NE Bereuter, Douglas +1 202 225 4806 +1 202 226 1148 Sometimes does not answer. This IS a valid fax #, keep trying. R CA Dornan, Robert K. +1 202 225 2965 Rep. Dornan has disconnected this fax number. His office does have a fax, but it has been made non-public. Constituents may wish to describe to Rep. Dornan how they feel about such manouvers. R IL Michel, Robert H. +1 202 225 6201 +1 202 225 9249 Try again if you don't get an answer. This is a working fax number. Many thanks to Janet E. Harrison <tat(a)well.sf.ca.us> for doing the footwork for this update. -- Stanton McCandlish * mech(a)eff.org * Electronic Frontier Found. OnlineActivist F O R M O R E I N F O, E - M A I L T O: I N F O @ E F F . O R G O P E N P L A T F O R M O N L I N E R I G H T S V I R T U A L C U L T U R E C R Y P T O

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Re: Anon posts (was irritating posts...)
by Ben.Goren＠asu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:34 PM 6/13/94 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >[. . .] >To see this, think of the Cypherpunks list as one large (by today's >standards) message pool [. . . .] Just out of curiousity, how large *is* Cypherpunks? I've been subscribed just about a week now, but I've been quite pleasantly shocked by the S/N ratio, after getting completely turned off by the Sternlight wars on Usenet. Ironic that a group calling themselves "punks" should be civilized, intelligent, scholarly, altruistic, and basic good 'net citizens, while sci.crypt is often little more than a bunch of people playing "did so!" games. And the PGP group! >--Tim May > > >-- >.......................................................................... >Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, >tcmay(a)netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero >408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, >W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. >Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. >"National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway." -- Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu, Arizona State University School of Music net.proselytizing (write for info): Protect your privacy; oppose Clipper. Voice concern over proposed Internet pricing schemes. Stamp out spamming. Finger ben(a)tux.music.asu.edu for PGP 2.3a public key.

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RSADSI "Terisa" venture
by paul＠hawksbill.sprintmrn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A (very) brief blurb on the inside cover of Network Worl this week (p.2, June 13, 1994; vol. 11, number 24): "That secure feeling. RSA Data Security, Inc., which sells public-key cryptograpgy software, and Enterprise Integration Technologies Corp., product manager for a $12 million Internet marketplace, are teaming up to sell tools that build secure Internet applications. Their joint venture, Terisa Systems, will market tools for creating World-Wide Web clients and servers that incorporate cryptography and digital signatures for ensuring the privacy and validity of transactions over the Internet. Shipping is scheduled for late 1994. Terisa: (415) 617-1836" _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul Ferguson US Sprint Managed Network Engineering tel: 703.904.2437 Herndon, Virginia USA internet: paul(a)hawk.sprintmrn.com

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Re: Anon posts (was irrit
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com B >Sternlight wars on Usenet. Ironic that a group calling themselves B >"punks" should be civilized, intelligent, scholarly, altruistic, and B >basic good 'net citizens, while sci.crypt is often little more than a B >bunch of people playing "did so!" games. And the PGP group! B > B >>--Tim May USENET vs mailing list. DCF --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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Sunday NY Times anti-Clipper, FBI bill editorial
by sidney＠taurus.apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's a brief quote from a NewsBytes copyrighted article. You can surmise the rest, or go get a copy of last Sunday's NY Times. There are no new arguments in the Times editorial, but the fact that they wrote it is what's interesting: WASHINGTON, D.C., U.S.A., 1994 JUN 13 (NB) -- In a Sunday editorial, the influential New York Times has criticized both the Clinton administration's Clipper encryption scheme and the digital telephony legislation backed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). -- sidney markowitz <sidney(a)taurus.apple.com>

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