December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

What can one do for remail operators?
by Tommy the Tourist 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am interested in doing something to support the remailer operators that put their necks on the line for us cypherpunks. I have noticed people like Detweiler (dunno who he is) who are basically awed by the fact that a remailer crashes when you send your VM swap file through it, or people using it to do "nanny-nanny-boo-boo, you can't catch me, so pween off" messages, et al. I would like to something in support of these people who are noble enough to keep things running even when EVERYONE it seems is out to get them. If I knew any around here, they would get a free beer, and if the operator of Soda's remailer or Julf was in my area, they would get the whole keg ;). ------------ To respond to the sender of this message, send mail to remailer(a)soda.berkeley.edu, starting your message with the following 8 lines: :: Response-Key: ideaclipper ====Encrypted-Sender-Begin==== MI@```%A_^P;+]AB?X=];G11ZU97K(ZZQ%(8AU>834+"Y)5E3KUBX2/<MQ>'( MBT+==!$N]6_?T:4C:5,Q,BAM)?]<+`\GIHV&$_?,,`(NIK"[)^,Y)\9:_QL[ #\H'B ====Encrypted-Sender-End====

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Remailers
by greg＠ideath.goldenbear.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Phillipe Nave writes: > I think the single most important thing we could do for remailer operators > would be to figure out how to make the remailers *truly* *anonymous*. That > is, we need a net.hack of some sort that allows remailers to send their > messages in a way that leaves no trace whatsoever of the original poster > *and* leaves no trace of the remailer itself. Er, if we knew how to do that, we wouldn't need remailers. :) What we do need are more remailers that aren't subject to political pressure or likely to be killed because someone writes to 'Postmaster'. Accordingly, I'm pleased to announce the deployment of my own remailer - 'remailer(a)ideath.goldenbear.com'. I can't say that the arrangement that gets me my news/mail feed is entirely without politics, but the sysadmin above me is, I believe, also pro-privacy and pro-remailer. The remailer is not intended for use for extortion, harassment, fraud, defamation, or spamming the net. There are no content filters installed but if I learn of use which involves the above I will take whatever steps I think necessary to eliminate non-acceptable uses. The software is Chael Hall's remailer system - PGP encrypted messages are not yet supported (unless there's a new version I don't know of). Sometimes I talk to my feed site with TCP/IP, sometimes with UUCP. This means that messages may get between 0 and 24 hours of delay; I know of no way to predict the length of the delay. Detweiler, you may not use my remailer nor any of my computer systems in any way at any time, under any name. If anyone's got his physical address I'd like to get it so that I may send him a copy of my "no permission" message, registered mail. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.5 iQCVAgUBLjfvI33YhjZY3fMNAQFoKwP+K7jUCa5vAhWIPcPz/nzpILi3AbfOZ5Lr 0H6KRJfpX8lvmmO8FNJlbXweQPLhm14It90vlwbuCJd9wfLgiRkZmPs99IgoX1CB iW4Wby+pdusExj+nNmyFA8zKKRTO4Eq5ahddqMtI7dBHmfZ/F/abjnmYXUmkarKe EdvZlqBCcIs= =+GnC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Stealth ported to DOS & OS/2 part 2/2
by 7CF5048D＠nowhere 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Just say NYET to censors
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:58 AM 07/28/94 +0800, Jacob Levy wrote: >Would you agree to: Nope, can't watch that XXX movie without first keying >in your ID? Not to mention watching that [insert your favorite nonmainstream politician] speech... I think the real issue here is that any form of censorship simply sucks (censorship here is content based filtering of ideas- I am not talking about people who choose not to devote thier resources to something- that is a related but different idea). The original poster is trumpeting censorship 'for the children.' Is anyone else sick of the Save The Kids excuses used to puch nasty legislation through (Polly Klaas starts rolling over...)? I firmly believe that if parentd don't want children seeing something it is the parent's responsibility to take control of what the children see. If they don't have the time/energy to be a responsible parent *as they define it*, then maybe they should have thought about that beofre they had a kid. In any case, someone else's desire to 'shield' thier child from some forms of expression has nothing to do with my expression thereof. >--JYL <Jamie steps down... and tries to think about stuff having more to do with crypto> -j -- "Blah Blah Blah" ___________________________________________________________________ Jamie Lawrence <jamiel(a)sybase.com>

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Signature Stripping and anon servers
by gkremen＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Article 17408 of alt.privacy: Xref: netcom.com alt.privacy:17408 Newsgroups: alt.privacy Path: netcom.com!gkremen From: gkremen(a)netcom.com Subject: Signature stripping and anon servers? Message-ID: <gkremenCtMrv2.190(a)netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 03:18:38 GMT Lines: 25 I am new to this group so please forgive my ignorance. I am looking at putting together a local anonymous server. However, people here have signatures that might give them away. They also forget that they have signatures. Is there a general (and I know that you can't cover all cases) of stripping signatures? What I was thinking about was: Read last 100 lines of message if a line begins with -- then if no MIME v1.0 header present then delete last 100 lines else if -- is part of part-boundary then ignore else delete last 100 lines Does anyone have any gross problems with this methodology? If so or if you have any suggestions, send mail to me and I will post the best stuff. Thanks in advance. Gary

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Re: DES Vulnerable, Why?
by koontzd＠lrcs.loral.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Back in 1986-7 there was a major effort to have DES replaced with a >new encryption standard. I don't recall the name for the program, but >it had the support of several chip companies (Intel, AMD, etc.) and >was, I seem to recall, mentioned prominently in the National Computer >Security Act of 1987. The Commercial COMSEC Endorsement Program (CCEP). It had two phases, for type I (classified) and type II (unclassified). The first phase stalled rather badly, although eventually gives us STU-IIIs and KG-84 knockoffs. As late as 1987 NIST was predicting that the type II phase wouldn't arrive until 1990. The Clipper chips from Mykotronx were intended to be part of the type II effort (as can be seen from the original MYK-78 chip spec and marketing brochures from Mykotronx). The problem with the type I phase was the duration it took to go from product proposal approval to prototype completion was a minimum of 32 months. These delays are caused by manpower and support restrictions residing in the National Security Agency, partly due to bureaucrary. Theoretically these roadblocks aren't in place for the unclassified effort managed by NIST. We do see that FIPS PUB 140-1 was only issued this past January. One wonders in the type II effort has been stalled purely for bureaucratic reasons. Clipper/Capstone are actually part of the program.

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Re: Just say NYET to censors
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nzook(a)math.utexas.edu writes: >Specifically, this is a plan to create two sorts of accounts to the net-- >adult and minor. Adult accounts may only be obtained by persons of age >eighteen. Minor accounts may only be obtained as adjuncts to adult >accounts, refered to as supervisor accounts. Adult accounts would have >full access to anything on the net. News readers, telnet, ftp and like >software being operated from a minor account would check a file in the >adult account to allow access. Newsreaders, in particular, would censor >any posts crossed from a non-allowed account. The control files in the >supervisory accounts would default to allow-only mode, but could be >selected to deny-only. As a parent, I can sympathize with the desire to shield our children from some of the raunchier material on the net. Many parts of the net are more "Animal House" than "Public Library", and you don't necessarily want a nine-year-old girl learning about sex from a.s.b. I think there are real problems with Nathan's proposal, though. Questionable material on the net is not tagged with an R rating. Newsgroup categories could be rated by the parent, but there is nothing to stop cross-posting. Trying to put ratings on each email message, news posting, web site, MUD (although some MUDs do have adult areas), IRC channel, etc., is just not practical. No censor has that much free time. Another problem is that even the "safe havens" where minors congregate may not stay as pure as we would like. Believe it or not, teenagers of below the age of 18 are actually interested in sex. In fact, many, perhaps even a majority, are not virgins. It's going to be necessary to censor the kids' posts more than any others if you want to keep them from talking about what they want to talk about. For a good example of these problems, see that paragon of censorship, Prodigy. My kids use Prodigy a lot. They are pre-teens and I don't worry too much about what they will see on this family-oriented service. Still, the "Teen" BBS on Prodigy gets a little steamy sometimes, even though each and every message is reviewed by a Prodigy censor before it can be posted (at least, that is how it worked at one time. They may have auto- mated filters now.). The "fashion" topic, for example, often degenerates into discussions of how the girls look in their hot lingerie. Basically, the kids are constantly pushing the limits. Since every parent has their own ideas of where these limits should be, Prodigy ends up with sort of a "least common denominator". I'd like to turn my kids loose on the Internet, let them surf the Web and the other resources available. They are very computer-aware and I know they would get a lot out of it. But the way the net is now I don't think it would be responsible parenting to just let them loose, at least not for a few years. So, as I said, I sympathize with Nathan's problem, but I don't think a good solution is at hand. For now I think private, family-oriented networks are a better place for young kids. Hal Finney

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RE: Questions about Microsoft and Software Key Escrow
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Timothy C. May My forte here on the list, I like to think, has always been to have "extremely long-range radar" that can pick up trends far in advance. Black Unicorn once told he this was my main strength, and even everybody's second-favorite nemesis, David Sternlight said much the same thing in sci.crypt. Coming from Sternlight, high praise indeed. <misc. elided> By all means, give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt. But also insist that they explain their work on SKE, and repudiate it. ......................................................... I respect your ability to think clearly and with great foresight also, Tim, but I really cannot think that Microsoft would "sell out" on this issue. There are too many in the company who would are for privacy for the individual, and remember they have their customers to think about. If SKE would constitute a problem for the individual end-user, then I can't see how the company could implement it and expect to remain a leader in the business, with all the negative publicity it would generate (conceivably most of it from cypherpunks!). These are my thoughts based on what I know about attitudes around here that I am familiar with & certain of. As I said in another post, Microsoft is an expert at arriving at a "win-win" situation, but I don't believe this includes sacrificing some of our most cherished values, like personal privacy, in exchange for a little security. If I thought this was not true, *I* would not work here. I may sound naive; hope time does not prove me wrong. Blanc

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Government-Controlled Trust Hierarchies
by tcmay＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Two recent threads have been: * Government-controlled ID systems (National ID Card, is-a-person credentials, etc.) * Software Key Escrow (SKE) These two threads are intimately connected, I claim. We would do well to consider how they relate, given the recent revelations about plans for SKE by Microsoft, the already-existing (but mostly unused?) features in Apple's AOCE/System 7 Pro/etc. system, the proposal by Stephen Walker at TIS of an SKE system, and the press for a National ID card. The "anarchic" model of the "web of trust" found in PGP is anathema to control freaks...sorry if this sounds like I'm grinding an ideological axe, but I don't feel I have to make posts to _this_ group sound like impartial, academic papers. Someone discussing key escrow here recently said that one thing he's want to see in any "voluntary" system is "proof of identity." Though many of us here dismissed his arguments as Detweileresque, in that Detweiler was always trashing pseudonymity (while being by far the most obvious user of it, ironically). But I think these arguments are common in some circles. For example, to use the Apple Open Collaboration Environment (AOCE) stuff, one gets one's key by submitting to RSA a notarized statement of one's identity. I haven't done this, and have no intentions to ever do so, but I gather than one take's one's passport, birth certificate, etc., down to a Notary Public, she confirms that the person is indeed "Sue D. Nym," signs and stamps the AOCE or RSADSI form, and this is snail-mailed to RSADSI in Redwood Shores. Some days or weeks later, one's key arrives. Sort of kills the idea of multiple keys for multiple purposes, of changing keys frequently, and of not going through such a process in the first place. Oh, and of course it costs money (the Notary for sure, and maybe RSADSI...though maybe Apple gives your a free coupon "Good for One Key Generation"). The Microsoft thing may be going down a similar track. The Microsoft paralegal who confirmed to me yesterday (via Blanc Weber, who can attest to what I'm saying) that MS is indeed pursuing SKE claimed that this is primarily to meet export laws and will not apply, he claims, to U.S. users. (I'm confused. If it's _export_ laws, and not _import_ laws into Haiti, Iraq, France, or other police state who may insist on key escrow, then won't all U.S.-sold packages of "Chicago" have to have this SKE built in? Why should U.S. export laws care about what key escrow laws other countries have? Since when do we enforce other countries' laws at our borders?) >From everything I am seeing, SKE will be incorporated into some widely-used operating systems, notably, Microsoft's upcoming release of "Chicago," the successor to Windows 3.1. (Chicago is essentially Windows 4.0) Who will write this? The SKE proposal described at the Karlsruhe workshop in international key escrow was authored by Stephen Walker and David Balenson of Trusted Information Systems. Matt Blaze's post yesterday discussed this in more detail. I suggest we look very closely for connections between TIS and Microsoft, Apple, Novell, Sun, and any other major OS providers. I believe TIS is preparing an SKE system that involves the "proof of identity" notary system Apple and RSADSI are now using, that involves mandatory selection of escrow agents (*), and that will be widely deployed in upcoming future operating systems, probably in Chicago in 1995 and maybe in Apple's System 7.5 in '95 as well. As Hal Finney notes, this will nuke the "web of trust" model, and will also make all systems in which keys need to be generated on an ad hoc, as needed basis very difficult or impossible to deploy--at least if the built-in systems of Chicago or System 7.5 are to be used. (* A note of confusion. I don't see how the schemes described by Matt Blaze, Carl Ellison, and others here, in which groups of communicants agree on a mutual escrow agent can work. For example, suppose a bunch of say, "OK, we'll play your silly game. We'll use your software, but our "escrow agents" will be "cypherpunks.nil" and "bitbucket.void," both of which consign all incoming keys to oblivion. Whutja gonna do now?" This makes the escrow agents a charade, unless of course there are laws regulating escrow agents!) In closing, it looks like the anarchic, distributed, web-of-trust stuff has been recognized as something governments need to quash. The first attack, Clipper, failed miserably, for various reasons. The second attack is much more insidious. Use various pressures on Microsoft (Gee, I wonder what _that_ could be?) to deploy a Beltway Bandit-deveoloped (TIS, with inputs from Denning, NIST/NSA) system that is, happily, "freely exportable." This satisfies Cantwell (so she drops her bill), this allows Clipper to be quietly killed, this allows Microsoft to free export Chicago, Daytona, and other such products, and this presumably keeps the national security state people happy. Well, this is my scenario. It could be wrong in some details, but clearly something is brewing out there....too many pieces are matching up. Vigilance! --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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XSPLIT now own ftp.wimsey.bc.ca
by rarachel＠prism.poly.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just uploaded a short program I wrote called XSPLIT to ftp.wimsey.bc.ca. this is a simple crypto tool that splits a file into many files for secure distribution. A simple way of escrowing your data to the parties >YOU< only trust and who don't know each other. Whenever Gibson's idea of swiss like databanks will occur, you could encrypt your file, split it with XSPLIT and upload it to several such databanks. XSPLIT takes a file, generates n-1 random numbers, writes those random numbers out to each of the n-1 files, and for the nth file it takes the XOR of all N random numbers, and XORs it with the plaintext. This way, you get to split your file in such a way as to require all pieces of it in order to rebuild it. This is certainly not earth shattering, and is similar to what clipper uses, only its something you have available to you and something I wrote on a whim. Enjoy. (Source is included as usual and should be unix portable.)

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