December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Graham-John Bullers [SMTP:real@EDMC.net] wrote: > > >As i'am one of persons mention in Toto's posts I > >would just like to say I think the posts were a > >joke. With the help of of Vullis I was a pain to > >the list and this was Toto's way of acknowledging > >this. > > > To the government readers of this list... Ah, yes, the good old days when Vulis was here. ---guy * Re: State Charges in Weaver Case * * Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM (dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com) * Fri, 22 Aug 97 02:09:13 EDT * * Mike Duvos <enoch(a)zipcon.net> writes: * > * > Shouldn't it be ... involuntary * > manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed * > attacker? * * No, it should be a $100 reward for icing a motherfucking fed. * * --- * * Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM * Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps ...and elsewhere in Usenet... ...soliciting funds for terrorist groups to kill a jewish couple: # Subject: The final solution for the premature ejaculation problem # From: shlomo(a)bwalk.dm.com (Rabbi Shlomo Ruthenberg) # Date: 1996/06/05 # Organization: Young Israel of Red Hook # Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,alt.religion.islam, # alt.politics.white-Power,alt.2600,alt.revenge,alt.revisionism # # # As a religious Jew, I am shocked that none of: Hamas / Hizballah / # Party of God / Revolutionary Justice Organization / Organization # for the Oppressed on Earth / Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of # Palestine / Popular Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine # / Ansar Allah / Palestine Liberation Front / Followers of the # Prophet Muhammad / Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims # / Fatah Revolutionary Council / Arab Revolutionary Brigades / # Islamic Resistance Movement / Vanguards of Conquest (whew!) have # gotten around porking the Jewish Fascist Yoni Kamens or his zonah # wife. You can help by mailing your donations (cash only) to: # # Dr. Ramadan Abdullah Mohamed Shallah # Dr. Musa Abu-Marzuq # c/o Arab Republic of Palestine Mission to the United Nations # 115 E 65 St, New York, NY 10023, tel: (212) 288-8500 # # Be sure to mark all envelopes "for the Yoni Kamens fund"!

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Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd)
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, David Honig wrote: > There is no evidence that Clinton actually *inhaled* on the > flavored cigar... Something here is a little fishy...

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Clinton's fake apologies
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The annoying thing about Clinton's recent behavior is that he never comes right out and apologizes, but the press always says he does. Case in point: > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Saying ``I have sinned,'' a tearful President > Clinton made an impassioned plea Friday for forgiveness from Monica > Lewinsky and others and vowed to fight hard to keep his job. But what did he say? > ``I don't think there is a fancy way to say that I have sinned,'' > Clinton said, hours before independent counsel Kenneth Starr's report > to Congress on his eight-month investigation into the Lewinsky scandal > was to be made public. He didn't say that he had sinned, he said that there wasn't a fancy way to say that he had sinned. He never came right out and said, "I have sinned". Another example: > ``It is important to me that everybody who has been hurt know that the > sorrow I feel is genuine -- first and most important my family, also my > friends, my staff, my cabinet, Monica Lewinsky and her family, and the > American people. I have asked all for their forgiveness,'' said Clinton. > > It was the first time he had actually asked publicly for the forgiveness > of Lewinsky... But he didn't ask publicly for the forgiveness of Lewinsky. He said that he had already asked her for forgiveness. Is this really true? Has he really spoken with her? Or is it another lie? Another example, from while Clinton was in Ireland: > DUBLIN, Ireland (AP) - President Clinton said for the first time Friday > ``I'm sorry'' about his affair with Monica Lewinsky, describing his > behavior as indefensible as he sought to calm the growing storm that > has shaken his presidency. Here's what he actually said: > ``I've already said that I made a bad mistake, it was indefensible and > I'm sorry about it,'' Clinton said, questioned at a photo opportunity > with Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern. It was the first time he had > used the word ``sorry.'' The wording is not quite as obvious here, but in the video record it was clear that he was saying that he had already said that his behavior was indefensible and that he was sorry about it. Of course, this is not true, he had never said that. Knowing Clinton's lawyerlike mind, we can only assume that his wording is carefully chosen. He could easily have said, "I don't think there is a fancy way to say it, but I have sinned," or, with regard to Lewinsky and company, "I ask here for forgiveness from them all." No doubt he takes a measure of satisfaction in knowing that his calculated public contriteness is carefully arranged to make it seem like he is saying things which he actually is not. Clinton loves lies, and it must be thrilling to lie brazenly and to be praised for his openness and honesty as he does so. For a professional hypocrite like Clinton, there can be no greater reward.

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Monica, slavegirl of Gor (fwd)
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This was found on a different mailing lists. names have been removed to protect the guilty. alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: Re: Monica, slavegirl of Gor The best opinion I've heard so far on this topic: "If the government's going to spend $50 million on pornography, I'd rather it be by artists I support." Carol

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RE: Bits are Bits
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Bryan [SMTP:sbryan@vendorsystems.com] [...] > But I have not yet seen CD-ROMs for rent or even available to > check out for home use from the public library. [...] [forgive the lame quoting format - I'm using a Microsoft product.] I was in my town library yesterday, and they were loaning CDROMs. I was in a hurry, so did not check the details. At least one was made by National Geographic. (BTW: You can get the *entire* *run* of NG on CDROM, which I think is pretty neat.) Peter Trei

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Fighting DMV clerical errors in NYC:
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A friend of mine asked me to forward this question to you guys: IMHO he needs a good lawyer, but maybe someone here knows more: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Any particular thing you want to fight @ the DMV or just in general? They are preventing me from renewing my license due to a clerical error they made over a year ago. Since I did not respond to their letter (I didn't understand what they were talking about) they suspended my license. That caused my insurance company to drop me. When I renewed my insurance (a second error, if you have a suspension you can not get insurance) they told me it was cleared. I need to talk to someone who can help me resolve this without me having to hand in my license and plate for the 90 day penalty -- =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian |Prying open my 3rd eye. So good to see |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder(a)sundernet.com|you once again. I thought you were |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ |hiding, and you thought that I had run |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |away chasing the tail of dogma. I opened|.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"|my eye and there we were.... |..... ======================= http://www.sundernet.com ==========================

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RE: Rental of PC software...
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

USC Title 17 § 109 subsec (b)(1)(A) ...unless authorized by the ...owner of copyright in a computer program (including any tape, disk, or other medium embodying such program), ...[no] person in possession of a particular copy of a computer program (including any tape, disk, or other medium embodying such program), may, for the purposes of direct or indirect commercial advantage, dispose of, or authorize the disposal of, the possession of that ...computer program (including any tape, disk, or other medium embodying such program) by rental, lease, or lending, or by any other act or practice in the nature of rental, lease, or lending. ... The transfer of possession of a lawfully made copy of a computer program by a nonprofit educational institution to another nonprofit educational institution or to faculty, staff, and students does not constitute rental, lease, or lending for direct or indirect commercial purposes under this subsection. (B) This subsection does not apply to - (i) a computer program which is embodied in a machine or product and which cannot be copied during the ordinary operation or use of the machine or product; or (ii) a computer program embodied in or used in conjunction with a limited purpose computer that is designed for playing video games and may be designed for other purposes. ... (2)(A) Nothing in this subsection shall apply to the lending of a computer program for nonprofit purposes by a nonprofit library, if each copy of a computer program which is lent by such library has affixed to the packaging containing the program a warning of copyright in accordance with requirements that the Register of Copyrights shall prescribe by regulation. (B) Not later than three years after the date of the enactment of the Computer Software Rental Amendments Act of 1990, and at such times thereafter as the Register of Copyright considers appropriate, the Register of Copyrights, after consultation with representatives of copyright owners and librarians, shall submit to the Congress a report stating whether this paragraph has achieved its intended purpose of maintaining the integrity of the copyright system while providing nonprofit libraries the capability to fulfill their function. Such report shall advise the Congress as to any information or recommendations that the Register of Copyrights considers necessary to carry out the purposes of this subsection.

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RE: oil, greens, recycling, and poly-ticks.
by Fisher Mark 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ray Arachelian writes: >Just out of curiosity what are prices around where you guys live? Prices here range from .97-.99 for name brands (Shell, etc.) and around .89 for no-name brands right now. ========================================================== Mark Leighton Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics fisherm(a)indy.tce.com Indianapolis, IN "Their walls are built of cannon balls, their motto is 'Don't Tread on Me'" > . >

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Re: If there's a trial will some of us be witnesses?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: > at one time, kevin mitnick was on this list, rumor has > it. probably many of the world's premiere hackers have been at one time or > another. L. Detweiler and Phiber Optik were concurrently subscribed in early '93. But you know that, don't you?

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Starr report
by J. Michael 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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