January 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

Orange Crush
by mattd 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

>>TCDD or, 2-3-7-8-tetrachlorodibenzo-P-dioxin (C12,H4,Cl4,O2), is a CONTAMINATE artifact of the heat exchangers used in the reaction process not a constituent as so often stated.<< Thanks for that,the story about the west au batch is that fire/heat damaged a primary constituent during its manufacture in Singapore.The CATO institute is believed to be writing a new press release on how Toxic waste is good for you.One of the reasons I dump my recycled raw material here is to get free input such as yours,Its viewers like you that keep me going,Thank you. Last year 75,000 gallons of Round Up sprayed on Columbia leading to more clearing of tropical rainforest.Genocide AND suicide.(fact or factoid?)

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New rallying cry (was Re: FOI- Arizona Stadium Tax Nazis)
by mean-green＠hushmail.com 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

At 06:32 PM 1/5/2002 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: Matt, Thanks for posting. I've forwarded it and copied the board members, as a courtesy: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02994.html I'm one of those who believes there may be something to the claims that Secretary Knox perjured himself when he told Congress that the 16th Amendment had been properly ratified. I've recently come up with this eerily familiar rallying cry. "No taxation without re-ratification". mg

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Attention: Legal Professionals - URGENT NOTICE
by Legal Professionals 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

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RE: Future Gnu's
by Trei, Peter 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

If there's anything more annoying than a boring nut who takes up 30% of the list volume, it's a boring nut who takes up 30% of the list volume with plaigerized articles from other, much more creative and intelligent nuts. This, of course, is CJ Parker's work, as published on Declan's Politech list. Peter Trei > ---------- > From: mattd[SMTP:mattd@useoz.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:47 AM > To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com > Subject: Future Gnu's > > Birthdays;Mel gibson,robert loggia and dabney coleman.Future Gnu's > February 4, 2002 > > An 86 year-old Amish woman on a Florida to Ohio flight detonates a bomb > in pants disguised as battery operated light-up "Viva Las Vegas!" > panties. [...] ============================================================================ ================ This e-mail, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and are PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Access by any other party is unauthorized without the express prior written permission of the sender. If you have received this e-mail in error you may not copy, disclose to any third party or use the contents, attachments or information in any way, Please delete all copies of the e-mail and the attachment(s), if any and notify the sender. Thank You. ============================================================================ ================

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Re: cell phone guns
by Faustine 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 06:54 PM 12/28/01 -0500, Faustine wrote: > >Not surprising, since cell phone holster decoys have been around for ages. >Why settle for a .22 when you could be packing a Glock 30? >Better stealth. >I like the NAA .22 belt buckle. Can also fit inside a beeper case. >Mossad prefers suppressed Berretta .22 which doesn't need racking. Hm, whatever works, I guess. Sheer stealth isn't as much a factor for me as is accuracy, reliability and being able to avoid the "woman with a peashooter" image. All rhetoric aside (but with all that in mind) I've actually been thinking of getting a 9mm, something along the lines of a Glock 26, a Kahr P9 or maybe a Sig-Sauer P239. Any thoughts? I know there's no substitute for getting out there and firing them at a range to see what I'm comfortable with, but if anyone has any recommendations, better suggestions, which 9mm to avoid, etc. I'd appreciate it. ~Faustine. *** Resistance to sudden violence, for the preservation not only of my person, my limbs, and life, but of my property, is an indisputable right of nature which I have never surrendered to the public by the compact of society, and which perhaps, I could not surrender if I would. - --John Adams -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBPC5LIfg5Tuca7bfvEQKIyACbBmjXCMeeeYVRJyKZXX1RVM3kUskAoM2S QBFXBjlKLqElf9F9VhRYuReW =82tr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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"subscribe cypherpunks"
by Michael Muckin 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

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Orange crush
by mattd 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

Agent orange news in Nam... http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=01/12/31/3456415 Scientists investigating the effects of Agent Orange in Vietnam have found that people living in a so-called hotspot have the highest blood levels of its poisonous chemical dioxin ever recorded in the country. Agent Orange, which has the dioxin (TCDD - short for 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin) as one of its constituents, was last used in 1973. But today, some residents of Binh-Hoa, near Ho Chi Minh City, have 200 times the normal amount of dioxin in their bloodstreams. Agent Orange was widely used by the US military during the Vietnam War as a defoliant so that Vietnam's dense jungle could not provide cover for Viet Cong forces. 'Startling' results It was when US veterans started to become ill with a variety of health problems that investigations suggested that Agent Orange could be involved. The most dangerous ingredient was the dioxin, a pollutant that stays in the environment for decades. There are still about 12 dioxin hotspots in Vietnam, in areas where very heavy spraying took place. (cont) Page 1 breaking news is apparent discovery of highly toxic batch in WA.(ex vietnam)Deaths suspected.

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Another Movie of Some Cpunk Interest
by Blanc 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

I was just reading through the John Locke Foundation web site, http://www.johnlocke.org/ (and I'm suitably impressed with what I've read there, their approach to things is quite respectable), that Orson Scott Card's sci-fi novel "Ender's Game" is being made into a movie (no info on when it might be out). [I liked the story alright, except for the disappointing end: apparently all that superior intelligence and strategy and toil & trouble was all on account of . . . big bugs. Not a very seriously realistic reason or challenge, in my mind, to warrant all the mystery of the effort. Oh, well. Maybe the special effects will be entertaining, and with a bag of popcorn for additional enjoyment it will be worth the matinee price. :) ] .. Blanc

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Re: explicit govt monopoly rent-seeking (law abuse)
by Michael Motyka 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

Anonymous wrote : > >The problem dates from the early 1930s, when utility companies delivered >their bills by mailbox through their own employees out reading meters. The >Postal Service saw a huge drop in revenue and decided to act. Enforcement >became even more important in 1970, Dalton wrote, when Congress >mandated that the Postal Service be self-sustaining. > >>From >http://latimes.com/editions/orange/la-000000534jan03.story?coll=la%2Deditio… > >Postal Service Delivers Stern Warning on Mailbox Misuse >Enforcement: Agency tells Orange mobile home park residents to stop >using receptacles to send notices, rent bills, newsletters sans postage. > >..... >Q: When government acts like this how are they different from a gang? >A: Both rule by violence and terror, but a gang claims no moral authority. > My favorite is the lottery : can't gamble in your own home but they can run a statewide casino - how are they different from the mafia? I think there is other wierdness that goes along with the USPS : something about price minimums for certain types of mail carried by the likes of FedEx and UPS. Protective pricing structures. I grew up a in a fairly rural area. We all put up our own mailboxes on posts. Every winter the damn plow knocked them over. Some went for brute force, heavy pipe set in concrete, others for more elegant angled pivoting supports. IIRC when you put up a mailbox ( paid for with your own $ ) it becomes property of the USPS. What about the old-fashioned mail slot on the front door? Illegal to possess now? Why don't the trailer park folk do the following : Update everyone's mail boxes. There will be two slots in the lid : one labelled "US Mail" the other labelled "Private Mail" label the bucket "Private Property - No Trespassing" Let the law come down hard on anyone who puts mail through the US Mail slot without postage. The whole thing sounds truly stupid and about par for the course. Mike

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06 Jan '02

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