September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by connect＠blueskyfactory.com 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

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Identity Cards - Un-British Or Vital? The ID Debate
by cypherpunks＠privacyexposed.mailshell.com 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

Identity Cards - Un-British Or Vital? The ID Debate Alan Travis - Guardian (UK) "As introduction becomes more likely, opinions differ on both ethical and practical grounds. David Blunkett's suggestion that the introduction of compulsory identity cards in Britain could be necessary as part of the fight against terrorism yesterday stirred a range of criticism - from rightwing libertarians who claimed it would be "un-British", to those who warned the move would be ineffective and expensive. However, an opinion poll at the weekend showed that 86% of people supported some form of ID card. The government was seriously considering their introduction, Mr Blunkett said." http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4263767,00.html ------ The Identity Crisis Independent Digital "It's looking increasingly likely that, sooner rather than later, British citizens may be required to carry identity cards. Many would welcome such a development for safety's sake. But, says Thomas Sutcliffe, we underestimate at our peril the danger to liberty. We can't be sure what Mrs Joyce Mew would have made of David Blunkett's recent approving murmurs about the introduction of identity cards - these are jittery times, after all, and have startled many of us into unexpected postures - but the very little we know of her life leads me to suspect that she might have taken a dim view." http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=95810 Robert Andrews PrivacyExposed.com http://www.privacyexposed.com/news/01/09/25.htm

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RE: Cryptic Gibberish Page
by Trei, Peter 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

> ---------- > From: Blanc[SMTP:blancw@cnw.com] > > Does anyone on this list know what this page is about: > http://nag.ljudmila.org/wabe/45.html > > My email name is on it; does their system pick up words randomly from the > net to be used for their communications? > .. > Blanc > Grasshopper: At the root of the tree (http://nag.ljudmila.org/) enlightenment will be found. Peter Trei

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BEN FROM INTERCLIMAX
by ben＠camscash.com 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

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Slashdot | Purdue Builds Quantum-Computing Semiconductor
by Jim Choate 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

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internment camps for political dissidents
by mattd 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

In the austrian mathausen quarry/concentration camp,I read that some politicals were quite upset when their red triangles started fading to pink! As the place was a punishment camp for auswichtz(!)Im really surprised they found the time. Are you sure its too late for operation soft drill?

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Cash Prizes Win!!
by Rachel 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

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Re: Democracy is our enemy
by Thomas Leavitt 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

Thank you for replying. Yes, the ignorance of our representatives is sometimes frightening - I think a remedial course in civics, American history, and basic constitutional law should be mandatory for all elected officials at every level... and yet, the system as a whole continues to function, at some level, and I can't say I'd prefer to live anywhere else. There is a element that folks like the gentleman you respond to below ,have which reminds me of the more arrogant and self-righteous of the folks who surrounded me in college: "The system is bad, straight through, therefore we must tear it down completely, and rebuild it." They want a nice clean tabula rasa, nothing so dirty and complicated as an actual system inhabited by real live human beings who refuse to behave in the way they should. And they are focused on destroying the "bad" system, with very little idea of what would be erected in it's place, much less any thought as to what messy process might have to be gone through to come up with a new one that is acceptable to the people made to inhabit it. As for condemning democracy to the "dustbin of history", well we know what happened the last time someone did this: Dustbin of History, the A handy phrase made famous by Leon Trotsky. The Second Congress of Soviets was being held in Petrograd when news of Bolshevik seizure of power was announced on 25 October (7 November, New Style) 1917. With this decisive turn of events, the Mensheviks and other left groups decided not to participate in the Congress, and as they were leaving the room where the Congress was being held, Trotsky taunted them by proclaiming -- truthfully, as it turned out -- that they were well on their way into the dustbin of history. http://www.voiceoftheturtle.org/dictionary/dict_d1.shtml#dustbin Personally, I'd rather avoid a repetition of the resulting socio-historical disaster. Regards, Thomas Leavitt -- Thomas Leavitt -- thomasleavitt(a)hotmail.com; ICQ #16455919 http://www.internetmanifesto.org/ http://www.sczenkarate.org/ http://www.space.org/ http://www.gnosis.org/ Wired since 1981. Internet enabled since 1990. Web enabled since 1993. >From: keyser-soze(a)hushmail.com >To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com >CC: "\\" Thomas Leavitt\ "" <thomasleavitt(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Democracy is our enemy >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:46:44 +0000 > >At 04:58 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: >On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 03:08 PM, Thomas Leavitt wrote: > >>I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, >weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly >undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian and >authoritarian types from the far left and the far right as justification >for abandonment of the democratic process and the use of force to impose >their ideology on the rest of us. > > >We are not for "democracy." Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on >what's for dinner. > >We are not a democracy, but a repubic (pun intended). The primary >responsibility of our elected officials is to protect the minorities from >the majority and to preserve protect and defend the constitution. Many >representatives clearly show they have at best a poor understanding of the >Constitution, the words and intentions of the framers. Some even show >disdain for it. How many Congressmen do you think ever read Thomas Paine's >works? > > > >Crypto anarchy is about undermining democracy, causing the house of cards >to collapse. > > > >>I refuse to give up on our way of life, my fellow citizens, or to write >off my government as completely and irredemably lost. > > >You are welcome to "refuse to give up on our way of life." Many others >over the centuries have similarly refused to give up on royalism...I hear >there are even clubs where people pretend to be various archdukes and >viscounts, and even fan clubs for the grandchildren of royals deposed 75 >years ago. > > >Maybe there will be fan clubs for "democracy supporters." Maybe they will >even launch little wars agains the royalists. > > >Democracy will soon be consigned to the dustbin of history. > >I hope representative government is not. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Cash Prizes Win!!
by Rachel 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

To all our Fans!! Welsh Fantasy Soccer Has paid your entrance fee to the WELSH FANTASY FOOTBALL GAME 2001 Go to Welshfantasyfootball.com to register a free team now!! You have got to be in it to WIN!!

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Re: Fw: Big BIG trouble
by Steve Thompson 25 Sep '01

25 Sep '01

Quoting Elyn Wollensky (elyn(a)consect.com) > > Most of the terrorism offenses are violent crimes, or crimes > > involving chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons. But the list also > > includes the provisions of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act that make > > it illegal to crack a computer for the purpose of obtaining anything > > of value, or to deliberately cause damage. Likewise, launching a > > malicious program that harms a system, like a virus, or making an > > extortionate threat to damage a computer are included in the > > definition of terrorism. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Regards, Steve -- Oldthinkers unbellyfeel Ingsoc.

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