August 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

HA: Feds patent onion routing (Was: Pentagon Hides Behind Onion Wraps)
by Zakas, Phillip 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

> Declan wrote: > Syverson, who is listed on the patent with co-inventors Michael Reed > and David Goldschlag, defended the government's move. "It is a > necessary step for those of us working for the government to bring > technology to the public," Syverson said. How about simply publishing a paper on the topic (and actually I've been reading papers from the onion router project for several years...since 1996??) Since when were patents necessary to 'bring technology to the public'?

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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by John Young 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Somewhere it has been written that it is high chickenshit to post a claim that it will be "my last in the thread" rather than just not shit that last pile and then walk away a little distance to spy who comes to sniff and shit on yours thus requiring yet one more dollop of numero uno grafitti, usually a while later when it can be done without calling attention to mirror-image idiocy of last word authoritarian fart-biters. Still, no chickenshit behavior is more idiotic than plonking and kill-filing and bragging about them and recommending them ad pukem, rather just taking up doily crochet. Time to lay off Jim Choate, too, Sandy, smells like hysteria. And a bad provoke for mass hysteria which breaks out here at the barest of fangs. Which never happened in the golden days of comfort thinking. Hope nobody agrees with this spit bomb. Spit.

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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by Declan McCullagh 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

At 05:37 AM 8/18/01 -1000, Reese wrote: >Strangely, my dignity was not offended, I think yours is. That you >came (heh) to Aimee's defense indicates what, exactly? Paranoia becomes you. I didn't "come to Aimee's defense" -- I took issue with your post. One can (indeed almost has a moral obligation to) do the latter without engaging in the former. As for Aimee, Tim's criticisms of her have been reasonably accurate. She, as I have pointed out in the past, writes in strangely stilted English, has not done standard things like reading through some of the early cypherpunkish texts before suggesting ostensibly novel topics that have been well-discussed here before, and so on. The difference is that she shows promise -- her posts are becoming more relevant and comprehensible -- and you do not and likely never will. I expect this will be my last post in this sad, Reese-infested thread. -Declan

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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by Declan McCullagh 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

At 04:55 AM 8/18/01 -1000, Reese wrote: >What can you exactly blame her for? I can't blame her for taunting not-so-happy and not-very-fun Reese. Spare me the cries of offended dignity; they hardly sound convincing when one has little to begin with. -Declan

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Slashdot | Does This Article Violate the DMCA?
by Jim Choate 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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by Jim Choate 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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Slashdot | Stem Cell Patent Torpedoes Research
by Jim Choate 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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Re: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by Declan McCullagh 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 12:52:09PM -1000, Reese wrote, quoting Aimee: > >Agents don't get to use remailers and cower behind them. > > Cypherpunks don't get the power and sovereign immunity of the reigning > governmental infrastructure to cower behind. > > Show me a proof that no Agent has ever used a remailer, that no Agent > shall ever use a remailer. Of course government agents can and probably will use remailers. Heck, they can pose as journalists, priests, etc. complete with fake ID and cover stories and commit felonies. Using mixmaster is nothing by comparison. The government has created the Onion Routing project expressly to protect the identity of government workers, including agents. Aimee was having fun with you, and I can't exactly blame her. -Declan

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IP: Pentagon Hides Behind Onion Wraps (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO : N48 10'07'' E011 33'53'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 06:25:51 -0400 From: David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> Reply-To: farber(a)cis.upenn.edu To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com Subject: IP: Pentagon Hides Behind Onion Wraps Seems like the stuff we did at UCI in the 70's under a Darpa contract djf >Pentagon Hides Behind Onion Wraps >By Declan McCullagh > >2:00 a.m. Aug. 17, 2001 PDT > >Onions may be the secret ingredient in protecting the Pentagon's >classified information. > >During an afternoon presentation at the Usenix Security conference on >Thursday, a researcher at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory >described a technology known as "Onion Routing," which preserves >anonymity by wrapping the identity of users in onion-like layers. > >"Public networks are vulnerable to traffic analysis. Packet headers >identify recipients, and packet routes can be tracked," said Paul >Syverson, who works at the NRL's Center for High Assurance Computer >Systems. "Even encrypted data exposes the identity of the >communicating parties." > >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46126,00.html For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/

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