August 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by None 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

<CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Ray Everett-Church <ray(a)EVERETT.ORG> Subject: Book announcement--Ludlow Comments: cc: wolfskil(a)mit.edu To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM Forwarding... Please direct any inquiries about the book to wolfskil(a)mit.edu. -----Original Message----- From: Jud Wolfskill [mailto:wolfskil@MIT.EDU] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:17 PM To: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com Subject: book announcement--Ludlow I thought readers of the Cyberia List might be interested in this book. For more information please visit http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?sid=B37FD3FE-0FA5-461E-811… Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias edited by Peter Ludlow In Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias, Peter Ludlow extends the approach he used in High Noon on the Electronic Frontier, offering a collection of writings that reflects the eclectic nature of the online world, as well as its tremendous energy and creativity. This time the subject is the emergence of governance structures within online communities and the visions of political sovereignty shaping some of those communities. Ludlow views virtual communities as laboratories for conducting experiments in the construction of new societies and governance structures. While many online experiments will fail, Ludlow argues that given the synergy of the online world, new and superior governance structures may emerge. Indeed, utopian visions are not out of place, provided that we understand the new utopias to be fleeting localized "islands in the Net" and not permanent institutions. The book is organized in five sections. The first section considers the sovereignty of the Internet. The second section asks how widespread access to resources such as Pretty Good Privacy and anonymous remailers allows the possibility of "Crypto Anarchy"--essentially carving out space for activities that lie outside the purview of nation states and other traditional powers. The third section shows how the growth of e-commerce is raising questions of legal jurisdiction and taxation for which the geographic boundaries of nation-states are obsolete. The fourth section looks at specific experimental governance structures evolved by online communities. The fifth section considers utopian and anti-utopian visions for cyberspace. Peter Ludlow is Associate Professor of Philosophy at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. Contributors Richard Barbrook, John Perry Barlow, William E. Baugh Jr., David S. Bennahum, Hakim Bey, David Brin, Andy Cameron, Dorothy E. Denning, Mark Dery, Kevin Doyle, Duncan Frissell, Eric Hughes, Karrie Jacobs, David Johnson, Peter Ludlow, Timothy C. May, Jennifer L. Mnookin, Nathan Newman, David G. Post, Jedediah S. Purdy, Charles J. Stivale. 6 x 9, 451 pp., 4 illus. paper ISBN 0-262-62151-7 cloth ISBN 0-262-12238-3 Digital Communication series Jud Wolfskill Associate Publicist MIT Press 5 Cambridge Center, 4th Floor Cambridge, MA 02142 617.253.2079 617.253.1709 fax wolfskil(a)mit.edu ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com ********************************************************************** --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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by None 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

<CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Ray Everett-Church <ray(a)EVERETT.ORG> Subject: Book announcement--Ludlow Comments: cc: wolfskil(a)mit.edu To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM Forwarding... Please direct any inquiries about the book to wolfskil(a)mit.edu. -----Original Message----- From: Jud Wolfskill [mailto:wolfskil@MIT.EDU] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:17 PM To: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com Subject: book announcement--Ludlow I thought readers of the Cyberia List might be interested in this book. For more information please visit http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?sid=B37FD3FE-0FA5-461E-811… Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias edited by Peter Ludlow In Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias, Peter Ludlow extends the approach he used in High Noon on the Electronic Frontier, offering a collection of writings that reflects the eclectic nature of the online world, as well as its tremendous energy and creativity. This time the subject is the emergence of governance structures within online communities and the visions of political sovereignty shaping some of those communities. Ludlow views virtual communities as laboratories for conducting experiments in the construction of new societies and governance structures. While many online experiments will fail, Ludlow argues that given the synergy of the online world, new and superior governance structures may emerge. Indeed, utopian visions are not out of place, provided that we understand the new utopias to be fleeting localized "islands in the Net" and not permanent institutions. The book is organized in five sections. The first section considers the sovereignty of the Internet. The second section asks how widespread access to resources such as Pretty Good Privacy and anonymous remailers allows the possibility of "Crypto Anarchy"--essentially carving out space for activities that lie outside the purview of nation states and other traditional powers. The third section shows how the growth of e-commerce is raising questions of legal jurisdiction and taxation for which the geographic boundaries of nation-states are obsolete. The fourth section looks at specific experimental governance structures evolved by online communities. The fifth section considers utopian and anti-utopian visions for cyberspace. Peter Ludlow is Associate Professor of Philosophy at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. Contributors Richard Barbrook, John Perry Barlow, William E. Baugh Jr., David S. Bennahum, Hakim Bey, David Brin, Andy Cameron, Dorothy E. Denning, Mark Dery, Kevin Doyle, Duncan Frissell, Eric Hughes, Karrie Jacobs, David Johnson, Peter Ludlow, Timothy C. May, Jennifer L. Mnookin, Nathan Newman, David G. Post, Jedediah S. Purdy, Charles J. Stivale. 6 x 9, 451 pp., 4 illus. paper ISBN 0-262-62151-7 cloth ISBN 0-262-12238-3 Digital Communication series Jud Wolfskill Associate Publicist MIT Press 5 Cambridge Center, 4th Floor Cambridge, MA 02142 617.253.2079 617.253.1709 fax wolfskil(a)mit.edu ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com ********************************************************************** --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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by T_crow133＠hotmail.com 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

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17 Aug '01

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kuro5hin.org || The Economist survey on drugs
by Jim Choate 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

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kuro5hin.org || 21st Century Marxism
by Jim Choate 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

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Book announcement -- Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 17:12:53 -0400 From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> To: Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs(a)philodox.com>, dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu, cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com, coderpunks(a)toad.com, mac-crypto(a)vmeng.com, e-gold-list(a)talk.e-gold.com, farber(a)cis.upenn.edu, believer(a)telepath.com, net-thinkers(a)vmeng.com Subject: Book announcement -- Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias --- begin forwarded text

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RE: Bomb Law Reporter - special edition
by Aimee Farr 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Reese: > >> You are obviously > >> willing and able to provide the real citation, so what purpose was > >> served by changing all the names and obscuring the real cite, if > >> trickery was not a factor? > > > >No, Reese, I didn't want to expose an agent to Googling. > > Are court records public documents, or not? Why wasn't that info sealed > if there was a problem with releasing it? There probably wasn't...agents go on the record. Agents don't get to use remailers and cower behind them. > >> Talking about yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater is not the same as > >> doing it, no matter how "is" is defined, talking about bombs > and making > >> them is no different. Who was it? Said "I disagree with what you say > >> but support your right to say it" or words to that effect? > > > >A modern version: "I disagree with bomb recipes, but support > your right to > >provide bomb recipes, as long as I am not standing next to you, or > >associated with you in any way." Things work differently now, see? > > No, I don't *see*. There is no reason why they should work differently, > the relevant passages of the Constitution have not changed - the activism > in the courtrooms is telling though. I was being sarcastic. Do you think you need probable cause for investigation? ~Aimee

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by Al Saxter 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

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