August 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

kuro5hin.org || How Home-Schooling Harms the Nation
by Jim Choate 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2001/8/28/1868/27867 -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End (fwd)
by Jim Choate 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:58:12 -0400 From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu, cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com, Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs(a)philodox.com> Subject: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End --- begin forwarded text

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OPT: Slashdot | IBM Running Linux On Secure Hardware
by Jim Choate 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/08/28/2211246.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Gruesome Movie Sparks Outrage
by Jim Choate 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,46315,00.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End
by Seth Johnson 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

I'm sending this because I am looking for concerned individuals who understand the importance of the following cause: Content control is a dead end. The legal tradition in copyright has always drawn a distinction between facts and ideas on one hand, which nobody can own; and expression on the other hand, which is what has been allowed to be copyrighted. The thing is, data elements are facts, whether they are part of an expressive work or not. Free speech, the use of information and the very purpose of copyright are being revised by publishers and other "content" stakeholders by means of "content" control measures, such as the American Digital Millennium Copyright Anticircumvention Act, and the provisions of the international TRIPS treaty. Currently, a Russian citizen, Dmitry Sklyarov, is being prosecuted for felony charges under the DMCA, for work he did in developing software that decrypts the Adobe e-Book. The Copyright Clause in the US Constitution is geared toward allowing Congress to grant artificial monopolies ("exclusive Right" for "limited Times" to "Writings and Discoveries") in order to "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." It does not grant copyright as a natural right, and it does not provide for the superseding of free speech by this power of Congress. Do you agree that content control must not be allowed to enable copyright to supersede our free speech right to process and distribute information? We need outreach volunteers and coordinators who wish to help get the word out about what is going on, and to build the constituency of those who are affected by these developments. If you agree that content control must not be allowed to enable copyright to supersede free speech rights, then please contact me, or subscribe to the C-FIT Content Control Outreach discussion list by sending an email saying "subscribe C-FIT_Release_Community" to ListServ(a)realmeasures.dyndns.org. Seth Johnson seth.johnson(a)RealMeasures.dyndns.org Information Producers Initiative Basic Position Statement: http://realmeasures.dyndns.org/C-FIT/Theory1.htm

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2nd Annual Consult Hyperion Digital Identity Forum, London (11/01) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:34:30 -0400 From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu, cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com, e$(a)vmeng.com Subject: 2nd Annual Consult Hyperion Digital Identity Forum, London (11/01) --- begin forwarded text Status: U User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:25:40 +0100 Subject: 2nd Annual Consult Hyperion Digital Identity Forum, London (11/01) From: Dave Birch <dgwb(a)pobox.com> To: Bob Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Hi Bob, Can you pass this on to the appropriate lists, thanks. The 2nd Annual Digital Identity Forum will be held in London on November 7th and 8th 2001. The Forum is sponsored by Hitachi, with additional help from NCipher and our supporting publications: Net Profit and Finance on Windows. The goal of the Forum is to share knowledge in the whole field of digital identity: not just the technical aspects of PKI and the like, but the business and social aspects that will shape this emerging field. The speakers will therefore include legal personnel, IT specialists, an economist, business people, a psychologist and others. Confirmed speakers include: John Bullard of Identrus (US/UK). Stefan Brands of McGill University (Canada). John Noakes of Microsoft (UK). Alan Asay of Bolero (UK). Psychologist Kristina Downing Orr (UK). Steve Bowbrick of Another.com (UK). John Borking, Data Protection Commissioner for The Netherlands (NL). Economist John Browning, former editor of Wired UK (UK). Enrique Mazon of SafeLayer (Spain). David Jeal of Vodafone (UK). Dave Wentker of Visa (US). Peter Cattaneo of Sun Microsystems (US). Mike Dell of Neurodynamics (UK). Jon Matonis of Hush Communications (Eire). Caspar Bowden of Foundation for Information Policy Research (UK). It is an excellent opportunity to meet some interesting people working in the field and, hopefully, get exposure to some different ways of thinking about the issues in the Digital Identity field. We always strive to bring together diverse interests to stimulate genuine debate and valuable discussion. As is traditional at the Consult Hyperion Fora, the first day will end with champagne round tables to discuss a selection of interesting issues. The round table hosts will include Nicko van Someren of NCipher and David Birch of Consult Hyperion. For more information, see http://www.digitalidforum.com/ or contact David Birch at Consult Hyperion <d(a)consult.hyperion.co.uk> directly. The Digital Identity Forum is a not-for-profit event and any surplus generated will go to local charities. Thanks to the generosity of our sponsors and delegates, in recent years we have been able to support: The Pond Meadow school for children with severe disabilities, Guildford. The International Myeloma Foundation, Edinburgh. The Fountain Centre for Palliative Cancer Care, Guildford. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot
by Gil Hamilton 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Aimee Farr wrote: >"BlackNet; Case History of a Practically Untraceable System for Buying and >Selling Corporate and National Secrets.... to foreign adversaries, and to >spur the collapse of governments." > >Just out of curiosity, how many of you would sign on to a project like >that? >Would you please post a statement of interest, and detail how you would >contribute to such a project? Didn't you already sign on? Surely through your careful study of the archives you know that one of the founding documents for this list is Tim's "Crypto Anarchist Manifesto". It's practically the charter. See, for example, http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Crypto_misc/cryptoanarchist.manifesto - GH _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot
by Nomen Nescio 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Ray Dillinger writes: > I've composed a dozen responses, considered the subpeona and the trial > that could result from posting each, and wiped them. There's your > "chilling effect on political discussion" if you're interested. This > one, I'm going to post, so I'm being very careful what I say. If only there was some technology that would let you post, and say whatever you wanted... something that cypherpunks might have invented... something that would provide you a shield so that even unpopular speech can be presented with little fear of retribution. If only. Well, maybe someday. > The focus of the US intel community is shifting, at the current time, > to "domestic terrorism". That makes political speech of the kind > which has in past years been entirely normal on this list orders > of magnitude more dangerous to the participants than it was at that > time. Taking part in this discussion in a style "traditional" for > this list could be very dangerous. Remember, one out of every > fifty Americans is in jail, and if you think you're in the most > radical two percent of the population, there are implications, > aren't there? According to http://www.msnbc.com/news/602062.asp: "Between 1990 and 2000, the rate of Americans who were imprisoned skyrocketed -- from 1 in every 218 Americans to 1 in every 142. That translated to over 1,500 additional inmates each week. Over 3 percent of the U.S. population was in the corrections system." Most of these are black, so if you're white you're not affected so much. > Now, I shan't be participating in the rest of this thread, I don't > think. Instead, I shall spend my time writing code. Code which I > do not intend to release in a form traceable back to me. I encourage > those who can, to do the same. And who is the one posting under his own name?

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Inferno: The UN killed the recording industry (fwd)
by Jim Choate 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:37:37 -0400 Subject: Inferno: The UN killed the recording industry "On December 10, 1948, the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Now, more than 50 years later, the declaration could be just the thing to pull down the recording industry. And it all boils down to a little history, a little technology, and a clause in the Universal Declaration called Article 19" http://www.shift.com/web/columns/column014.asp Article 19. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Doesn't touch on what happens if someone "copyrights" your "opinion" or prevents you from proving your "opinion" that a copyright infrigement protection process is flawed but it's an interesting perspective w/ a few new aspiring additions to Freenet.

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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot
by Nomen Nescio 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Nomen says: > bin Laden and the IRA have plenty of money, but will many cypherpunks agree with their politics? It's hard to believe that anyone thinks that if the IRA or bin Laden were to succeed in their goals, that they would put in place a kindler and gentler state. It remains a challenge to identify groups that are both (A) wealthy, (B) in need of anonymity technologies, and (C) morally acceptable to support. Freedom fighters don't fit all that well, in today's world. ======================================================================== What total bullshit -- And what's that previous bs about drug cartels being morally unacceptable? Drug dealers are heros in today's world, we need to take lessons from them. Look how they deal with judges and prosecutors down in Columbia -- works for me! Seems like a real Good Thing@ in light of Jim Bell, Brian West, etc. Why do you say Osama bin Laden is not our friend? The enemy of my enemy is my friend, not so? Osama has no interest in taking over the US, just in cutting off the head of the snake. Sounds like a great idea. The IRA wants to kick the Brits out of Ireland, another good idea, should have happened long ago. IRA are great patriots. So is bin Laden, so am I. Maybe we could develop tools that the drug cartels would pay for, or bin Laden, and that all mankind would benefit from. Maybe they could pay for them by killing judges and prosecutors here for us. Seems like a fair trade.

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