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Re: FWI-FW: NIJ Standard-0227.00, Digital Intercept System (DIS)...
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

A pessimist like myself assumes the worst about the existence and use of things like this. It would be interesting to see but if you use mixmasters and end-to-end encryption their investment is probably for nought. That standards like this can be kept hidden does piss me off... got a copy? Mike > > The standard bears a FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > > classification, meaning it may be disclosed only to > > members of the law enforcement community and those in > > private industries supporting law enforcement > > activities. Please submit the request on your company > > letterhead. [...] > > ~Aimee >

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Re: Re: ORBS sucked into a black hole!
by Nat Love 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > The analogy's not perfect, but analogies never are. If you don't > like what "spam critics" are doing, move to a different ISP. Again, you totally fail to get the point. ORBS hampered communications between many ISPs. Simply moving to another one may or may not help. And if you happen to be running an ISP that came into conflict with ORBS, that moving thing is not an option. Nat

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FWI-FW: NIJ Standard-0227.00, Digital Intercept System (DIS)...
by Aimee Farr 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-JUSTNETNews(a)nlectc.org > ******************************************************* > NIJ Standard-0227.00, Digital Intercept System (DIS) > for Integrated Services Digital Networks (ISDN) > ******************************************************* <snip> > The digital intercept system provides the capability to > intercept any voice or digital data traffic between a > subscriber and an associate and forward it to a central > collector station for decoding and processing. The > system is modular, consisting of one or more bridges > (one for each subscriber line to be intercepted), and a > central collector facility. The bridges intercept and > forward all traffic from both directions on the > subscriber's line to the central collector over leased > forwarding facilities. At the central collector, a > workstation for each monitored line provides an agent > with control of the intercept process. <snip> > The standard was developed under the sponsorship of the > National Institute of Justice (NIJ). The project began > when NIST/OLES entered into an interagency agreement > with the Federal Bureau of Investigation to provide > technical guidance for developing ISDN intercept > methodologies. After the technology was successfully > demonstrated the preparation of the performance > standard was undertaken. The standard is now available > on a CD-ROM. <snip> > The standard bears a FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > classification, meaning it may be disclosed only to > members of the law enforcement community and those in > private industries supporting law enforcement > activities. Please submit the request on your company > letterhead. [...] ~Aimee

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Re: pap Smear
by Nat Love 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 georgemw(a)speakeasy.net wrote: > > >Check out the house and, sure enough, the window has been broken into, and > >right by the broken window is a pile of child porn. Wouldn't ANY sensible > >person conclude that more likely than not it was planted there? > > Except if the virus code is well known, and deemed trustworthy. And whats to stop an untrustworthy virus from making the same claims, placing the 'trustworthy' virus on the system and deleting itself? How are you going to define a 'trustworthy' virus with this scenario in mind? There is no such thing as 'trustworthy' automated software. At best, you have software that does what its supposed to when used responsibly. I have yet to see responsible usage of a virus.. and doubt I ever will. #include <responsible.h> #include <honesty.h> #include <morals.h> Nat

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Re: ORBS sucked into a black hole!
by Faustine 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

Quoting Mr. May: At 2:58 PM -0400 6/12/01, Faustine wrote: >Bill Stewart: > >>And that doesn't even count the movie critics who decide that >>some movies not commercial enough so they don't get made. > >That's because studios are private-sector businesses, not nonprofits dedicated >to the arts. Is a film a work of art or a commercial product? Can >you really be >both? On the other hand, how can you produce art if nobody pays for it? Then >again, can you really have a work of art shot through, riddled and co-opted >with BS product placement every five seconds? I tend to think not. > >Still, I can't buy the idea of "good movies have a right to be made." Either >somebody with money is willing to back it, or not. Censorship isn't really an >issue here, just the hard, cruel laws of economics. ha. > >You might want to check out some back issues of the "Journal of Cultural >Economics," lots of relevant articles there. >Irony is lost on some people. Oh, poo: unfortunately, in the "real" world you'll hear similar arguments all too often. And I must say it doesn't seem any more outlandish than the kinds of arguments certain people around here are making against ORBS. Sorry, Bill! ~Faustine. *** Why are you a physicist? Why aren't you a mathematician? --Paul Erdvs. :P

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