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Thought-A-Day
by Fountain Of Joy 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

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Thought-A-Day
by Fountain Of Joy 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

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Re: SSNs
by Anonymous 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

I wrote: > I am an American citizen. > > In 30 years I have never given a valid social security number to > anyone. > > I can't. > > I don't have one. > > I hold a regular high-paying job. I get a paycheck. My employer > uses ADP. I have a driver's license. I have a bank account. > I have good health insurance. I pay my taxes. > > Not once have I had a real problem. Any minor problems that have > come up over the years, and there have been very few, always go away > when ignored dilligently. > > Just give those facists a fake number. > > Good luck. > > Signed, > > 322-33-0007 >In response Harmon Seaver <hseaver(a)ameritech.net> said: >So for 30 you've been paying in to SS, but you'll never collect, nor >could you collect unemployment if laid off --- you like making large >donations to the government? I guess I have a hard time seeing what >the point is. And yes, I understand all the arguments over the years >about "national ID" and all that, and I can understand if someone >works for himself and *doesn't" pay in to the SS system, but .... I reply: Unlike you, I am not under the delusion that I will ever see any of my SS contributions back. I'm not interested in government unemployment benefits. I was unemployed for a few months back when. It never even occurred to me to seek unemployment benefits. Even if it had I wouldn't have bothered. "Large donations to the government." I have a hard time understanding that. Social Security is a TAX. Period. If you believe otherwise it's because some good salesmen (spin doctors) have told you so. It's not voluntary- therefore not a "donation" and I'd barely make 2% on it if I bothered to make a claim in 20-40 years. Who cares? I prefer to file for 17 dependent exemptions, put the extra money from my biweekly paycheck in a fund and then pay the principal back in April and keep the interest for myself- that's a little naughtier though. I get far more out of that then I ever will from Social Security. It's a TAX. Period. I'm not looking to commit tax fraud. I'll pay it like my other taxes. Still, I'm not going to let someone destroy my privacy because I am under the delusion that I somehow will see my SS contributions some undefined day more than two or three decades hence.

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12 Jun '01

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SCOTUS rulz! (fwd)
by Jim Choate 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

Where did that scum bag Scalia get the 'in general public use' test? Geez, these guys make it up as they go along... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:25:19 -0400 (EDT) From: George(a)Orwellian.Org Reply-To: cypherpunks(a)ssz.com To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net Subject: CDR: SCOTUS rulz! http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Scotus-Heat-Detector.html # # June 11, 2001 # # Court Rules Against Heat-Sensor Searches # # Filed at 11:03 a.m. ET # # WASHINGTON (AP) -- Police violate the Constitution if they use # a heat-sensing device to peer inside a home without a search # warrant, the Supreme Court ruled Monday. # # An unusual lineup of five justices voted to bolster the Fourth # Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and threw # out an Oregon man's conviction for growing marijuana. # # Monday's ruling reversed a lower court decision that said # officers' use of a heat-sensing device was not a search of Danny # Lee Kyllo's home and therefore they did not need a search warrant. # # In an opinion written by Justice Antonin Scalia, by many measures # the most conservative member of the court, the majority found # that the heat detector allowed police to see things they otherwise # could not. # # ``Where, as here, the government uses a device that is not in # general public use to explore details of the home that would # previously have been unknowable without physical intrusion, the # surveillance is a 'search' and is presumptively unreasonable # without a warrant,'' Scalia wrote. # # While the court has previously approved some warrantless searches, # this one did not meet tests the court has previously set, Scalia # wrote. # # The decision means the information police gathered with the # thermal device -- namely a suspicious pattern of hot spots on # the home's exterior walls -- cannot be used against Kyllo. # # The court sent the case back to lower courts to determine whether # police have enough other basis to support the search warrant # that was eventually served on Kyllo, and thus whether any of # the evidence inside his home can be used against him. # # Justices Clarence Thomas, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg # and Stephen Breyer joined the majority. # # Justice John Paul Stevens wrote a dissenting opinion joined by # Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, and Justices Sandra Day # O'Connor and Anthony M. Kennedy. -- ____________________________________________________________________ "...where annual election ends, tyranny begins;" Thomas Jefferson & Samuel Adams The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[camram-spam] long commentary from a knowledgeable outsider (fwd)
by Jim Choate 11 Jun '01

11 Jun '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 14:02:49 -0400 From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> To: cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com, coderpunks(a)toad.com Subject: [camram-spam] long commentary from a knowledgeable outsider --- begin forwarded text

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Invictus
by bpayne37＠home.com 11 Jun '01

11 Jun '01

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untraceable phone calls
by LadyofthePHB＠aol.com 11 Jun '01

11 Jun '01

When the information is obtained from the phone company ( in this case MCI) for "untraceable" phone calls, what kind of data will I receive? Is there ever any way to break this down to something usable? My problem is harrasing phone calls that appear to be coming from out of state but I believe are actually coming from a cell phone is state. Any ideas or helpful hints would be very very appreciated.

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