June 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Thought-A-Day
by Fountain Of Joy 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

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Re: Final Score - McVeigh: 168 Feds: 1
by George＠Orwellian.Org 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

At 10:19 AM 6/11/01 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: >As I was watching the coverage of the Tim McVeigh execution, I couldn't >help think that it was bigger than the coverage of the moon landing in >1969. David Honig <honig(a)sprynet.com> wrote: # One of Tim's colleages called it "Bloodstock" Jay Leno said McVeigh was voted off the planet.

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Re: ORBS sucked into a black hole!
by George＠Orwellian.Org 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

Prime Sinister Jim Choate whines: > I *AM* my own ISP you dunderhead. I don't like some asshole with zero > investment or liability through my acts telling me how to configure my > mail server or how often to mow my front yard. Declan the dunderhead fella wrote: # If you're listed on their naughtysiteslist, then route your mail # through some other system that isn't. # # Or complain to the naughtysiteslist reviewer. # # Or launch a boycott of the reviewer. # # But don't try to say the reviewer somehow does not have the right to # tell other people what he thinks about you. Ah, yes, the Prime Universe, where Jim will force his "free speech" on the resources of others. After all, the Internet means all must accept all SMTP. That's what you're saying, right Jim?

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ORBS
by Ray Dillinger 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

You know what? If Alice puts up a list of all the sites she's blocking mail from, there is no problem with that. She is not coercing anyone. She can block any site for any reason she wants -- maybe she has intestinal gas, or maybe she just doesn't like somebody. Tough toenails. If Bob reads this list and copies it, there is no problem with that either -- Bob's not coercing anyone. Bob winds up blocking the people Alice blocked, even if she blocked them for no good reason. But Bob is evidently okay with that, or at least unable to find a better source of information. If Alice were in a competitive business, and people paid for better or more well-founded recommendations about blocking lists, she'd probably be driven out of business. But whatever; nobody else got into the business, so there's no competition. Alice has a money-losing monopoly that provides marginal service. The only problem arises because Alice started using scans and listings as weapons. That's not wrong per se, as it's not stealing or coercion -- it's just rude. But scans themselves are perfectly acceptable and necessary as the only reliable means of providing this service. I think ORBS was exactly the kind of "reputation service" most folks here argue in favor of, and while some of us may have despised it, that's not sufficient reason to interfere with someone else's ability to publish whatever the hell they want to publish. Or, I'll even go further. It was an example of "private law", where the "law merchant" publishes a list of people who break the laws they sell and then lets the market punish or not as they choose. However flawed the list, and however obnoxious the merchant was about the testing to create it, isn't that exactly what many of you have been arguing for the right to do? Bear

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Stop the IRS protestors!
by Anonymous 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

There is a terrible campaign under way by the name of "Drown the IRS 2002." It is organized on the web by an angry group of over-taxed, bitter libertarians. We must do everything we can to stop them. They are planning to send millions of bogus 1040 tax returns to the IRS next tax year. They are going to use freely-available W2 templates, social security numbers (SSNs), and employer identification numbers (EINs). They hope to swamp the IRS with their own paperwork. http://www.freeERISA.com http://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf http://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw2_00.pdf http://www.state.oh.us/das/dhr/pdf/W2fx.pdf http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/finance/depts/ss/fw2_01.pdf http://www.glr.com/ssnpub.html This is a danger to our huge-government, socialist way of life. These dangerous freedom-lovers must be stopped. Life without a massive, all- powerful Federal Government is unthinkable. Please forward this warning to as many message boards as possible. We must get the word out to as many people as possible in order to stop them.

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Re: "This Is Your Brain On Cow"
by David Honig 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

At 09:30 AM 6/12/01 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >At 08:01 AM 06/12/2001 -0700, David Honig wrote: >>I know how to read, and I read _Science_. A sidebar called "American's own >>prion disease" describing Chronic Wasting Disease belonging to the >>transmissable spongiform encephalopathies (like Creutzfeld-Jakob and BSE). >>Vol 292 1 June 01 p 1641 > >Is this from feeding Soylent Green to prisoners, >or is this from unsanitary feeding of meat animals at prisons farms? It may well be from an otherwise useful peptide sequence which has a slight, spontaneous, contagious potential for turning bad. Sometimes, your illness is because your grandfather adsorbed a cosmic ray. Myself, I prefer Slurm (tm)

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13 Jun '01

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SCOTUS rulz!
by George＠Orwellian.Org 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Scotus-Heat-Detector.html # # June 11, 2001 # # Court Rules Against Heat-Sensor Searches # # Filed at 11:03 a.m. ET # # WASHINGTON (AP) -- Police violate the Constitution if they use # a heat-sensing device to peer inside a home without a search # warrant, the Supreme Court ruled Monday. # # An unusual lineup of five justices voted to bolster the Fourth # Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and threw # out an Oregon man's conviction for growing marijuana. # # Monday's ruling reversed a lower court decision that said # officers' use of a heat-sensing device was not a search of Danny # Lee Kyllo's home and therefore they did not need a search warrant. # # In an opinion written by Justice Antonin Scalia, by many measures # the most conservative member of the court, the majority found # that the heat detector allowed police to see things they otherwise # could not. # # ``Where, as here, the government uses a device that is not in # general public use to explore details of the home that would # previously have been unknowable without physical intrusion, the # surveillance is a 'search' and is presumptively unreasonable # without a warrant,'' Scalia wrote. # # While the court has previously approved some warrantless searches, # this one did not meet tests the court has previously set, Scalia # wrote. # # The decision means the information police gathered with the # thermal device -- namely a suspicious pattern of hot spots on # the home's exterior walls -- cannot be used against Kyllo. # # The court sent the case back to lower courts to determine whether # police have enough other basis to support the search warrant # that was eventually served on Kyllo, and thus whether any of # the evidence inside his home can be used against him. # # Justices Clarence Thomas, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg # and Stephen Breyer joined the majority. # # Justice John Paul Stevens wrote a dissenting opinion joined by # Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, and Justices Sandra Day # O'Connor and Anthony M. Kennedy.

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"This Is Your Brain On Cow"
by Declan McCullagh 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

http://www.madcowculture.com/madcow-00073.html Not surprisingly, the mad cow scare has gone underground and spawned a fan club that professes to live on the edge. Club members usually wear black, go to all-night clubs in Greenwich Village, and demonstrate courage by doing a line of cocaine. The new fad is a line of spine that involves inhaling through the nostrils a line of pulverized, powdered spine ostensibly from a really mad-cow cow. So pervasive is this practice that New York health officials have launched a television campaign called "This Is Your Brain On Cow," showing hapless young men and women braying at the moon. In a less dramatic manner some restaurants are simply adding a note of intrigue to expensive, bland menus. For example in Japan blowfish is considered a delicacy. However, it must be cooked properly or the consumer could die a very painful death. A similar practice is currently the rage in England where enterprising, risk-taking upper-class families actually seek out suspect meat for the Sunday roast claiming their pedigree will protect them.

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Re: SCOTUS rulz!
by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 George(a)Orwellian.Org wrote: > Isn't Jim Choate Prime against this ruling, on the > basis that it discriminates against certain > radiating frequencies? > > He has posted to that affect before. Prime Sinister Jim Choate says: # # Bullshit. What I said was that basing a 'search' # on the frequency of the radiation observed was bullshit. # # I stand by that. Oh Google, what were his exact words? # Is a visible light search needful of a warrant? # If so then why is the frequency of the radiation an issue? SCOTUS said it violates the "home is the castle" principle, because there were no longer any walls. You could see inside. What part of "see inside" don't you understand? I quoted Diffie Whitfield: "An essential element of freedom is the right to privacy, a right that cannot be expected to stand against an unremitting technological attack." To which you replied that Diffie was an idiot. Who looks like an idiot now?

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