December 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Cops refuse to prosecute, and AP candidates
by Major Variola (ret) 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

At 01:17 PM 12/19/01 +0200, Jei wrote: >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:25:41 -0800 >From: Deon Masker <deonmm(a)earthlink.net> >To: ddDeon <deonmm(a)earthlink.net> >Subject: [Conspiracy-Theory] Fw: [Renegades_Coalition] IRS Agent Goes Berserk, > Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan > You know, historically, when there is no reliable justice system, society gets blood feuds, etc. When the justice system is unreliable for sheeple but reliable for a special class, maybe AP *does* have a future. Meanwhile the traditional bag of cash & friend of a friend will have to do.

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Re: AP Al quim, Tim May Torn asunder.
by mattd 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

Sunder>>...you have to agree that you also have no problem with capitalism. And >>an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market << I have no problem at all with the operation of capitalism as envisaged by our esteemed colleague,james dalton bell. I have a very real and ongoing problem with anarcho-capitalism and Ill republish the hideous birth of that creature. Subject: Tim May: Arch Thief > >http://swissnet.ai.mit.edu/6805/articles/crypto/cypherpunks/may-virtual-com… > >Tim May; Dishonest sneak thief,coward and liar. > > >>"This essential anarchy is much more common than many think. > Anarchy--the absence of a ruler telling one what to do--is common in many > walks of life: choice of books to read, movies to see, friends to > socialize with, etc. Anarchy does not mean complete freedom--one can, > after all, only read the books which someone has written and had > published--but it does mean freedom from external coercion. Anarchy as a > concept, though, has been tainted by other associations. > >>First, the "anarchy" here is not the anarchy of popular conception: > lawlessness, disorder, chaos, and "anarchy."<< > >Double trouble,ambivalence? sub-conscious guilt,nerves,sweaty >fingers?Probably just running off at the mouth. > > >>Nor is it the bomb-throwing anarchy of the 19th century "black" > anarchists, usually associated with Russia and labor movements.<< > >Gee,I wonder how it got so tainted. > > >>Nor is it the "black flag" anarchy of anarcho-syndicalism and writers > such as Proudhon.<< > >Why ever not? The synergies and selling possibilities could be >amazing,what a way to bridge the gap between the present and >crypto-anarchy.We may see down the page why its "Nor". > > >>Rather, the anarchy being spoken of here is the anarchy of "absence of > government" (literally, "an arch," without a chief or head).<< > >Nowt to do with Proudon and some bomb throwing russians.Trust me,Im Tim >May.Master thief. > > >>This is the same sense of anarchy used in "anarchocapitalism," the > libertarian free market ideology which promotes voluntary, uncoerced > economic transactions.<< > >Grab a snatch and hold it. > > [6] I devised the term crypto anarchy as a pun on crypto, meaning > "hidden," on the use of "crypto" in combination with political views (as > in Gore Vidal's famous charge to William F. Buckley: "You crypto fascist!"),<< > >Freudian slip,Tim,understandable though,under the circumstances.You crypto >fascist. > > >>and of course because the technology of crypto makes this form of > anarchy possible.<< > >And the alteration of the meaning of words make grand theft >anarchy,possible.Also the original libertarian socialist form possible.The >form of anarchy Tim May will attempt to murder at any opportunity as a >witness to his crime. > > >>The first presentation of this was in a 1988 "Manifesto," whimsically > patterned after another famous manifesto.<< > >By the notorious petty bourgeois authoritarian wrecker of the 1st >International.Whimsical,Tim and telling. > > >>[7] Perhaps a more popularly understandable term, such as "cyber > liberty," might have some advantages, but crypto anarchy has its own > charm, I think.<< > >Cyber liberty and Im outta here,cant stand the stench. >It takes a word made their own by people willing to die for it and >martyred for it many times in Tims own country and attempts to leech off >it.Audacious thievery and knavery on scale ranking May with >Goebbals.Charming as Newspeak. > > >>And anarchy in this sense does not mean local hierarchies don't exist, > nor does it mean that no rulers exist. Groups outside the direct control > of local governmental authorities may still have leaders, rulers, club > presidents, elected bodies, etc. Many will not, though.<< > >Whoopty doo.Tim invents the anarchist wheel. > > >>Politically, virtual communities outside the scope of local > governmental control may present problems of law enforcement and tax > collection. (Some of us like this aspect.) Avoidance of coerced > transactions can mean avoidance of taxes, avoidance of laws saying who > one can sell to and who one can't, and so forth. It is likely that many > will be >>unhappy that some are using cryptography to avoid laws designed > to control behavior.<< > >I like the word anarchy so Im going to steal it from its rightful >owners,no one will catch me,Im invisible! > > >>National borders are becoming more transparent than ever to data. A > flood of bits crosses the borders of most developed countries--phone > lines, cables, fibers, satellite up/downlinks, and millions of diskettes, > tapes, CDs, etc. >Stopping data at the borders is less than hopeless.<< > >Stealing anarchy and loading it up with potted ayn randian,heinleinian >lead weight is whats hopeless,mate. > > >>Finally, the ability to move data around the world at will, the ability > to communicate to remote sites at will, means that a kind of "regulatory > arbitrage" can be used to avoid legal roadblocks. For example, remailing > into the U.S. from a site in the Netherlands...whose laws apply? (If one > thinks that U.S. laws should apply to sites in the Netherlands, does > Iraqi law apply in the U.S.? And so on.)<< > >Drone on and on and on all you want,your not going to get far with a >rebadged knock off of "anarchy"How do YOU sleep? > > >>This regulatory arbitrage is also useful for avoiding the welter of > laws and regulations which operations in one country may face, including > the "deep pockets" lawsuits so many in the U.S. face. Moving operations > on the Net outside a >>litigious jurisdiction is one step to reduce this > business liability. Like Swiss banks, but different.<< > >Money,money,money must be funny...in a rich mans dreams.Still theres hope >because later in conclusions Tim says >..."extremely dark things like anonymous markets for killings" may be >possible.We live in hope,Tim,hope and ANARCHY! Tim your lime pit is dug,the contracts are out.We don't just amputate limbs.

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Re: CNN.com on Remailers
by David Honig 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

At 02:42 PM 12/18/01 -0800, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: >On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, David Honig wrote: > >> Can't spam be repelled by not forwarding email not encrypted to >> the remailer's key? > >Who is to say that spammers won't use remailer clients that automatically >encrypt to the remailers' keys? Yes they could. > >Using remailer clients should be *easy*. Saying "this is too hard for the >average spammer to figure out" isn't acceptable. The most commonly held point of view that I've perceived on this list is that spammers are too lazy/stupid to do this -or even add a simple string token to a line. That may of course be wrong or in some cases any unexploited weakness is unacceptable. ..... As far as "flood" attacks on *any* node goes, you have to throttle at the routers. I think the ping attacks on yahoo of yesteryear showed this. Cheers

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Axed Intel Man Loses E-Mail Case
by Jim Choate 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

Who again has been saying for 10+ years that this sort of behaviour (incl. Open Relay scanning, which isn't covered here) is trespass? Check the archives folks...will Declan give predictive credit where credit is due? Probably not, that takes being honest... http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49031,00.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Licenced to Program?
by Jei 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8145809.html?tag=tp_pr Enough already! Ban programming. @ Articles Dec 16 2001 - 02:54 EST acideye writes: No I don't agree with or endorse in any way this statement, but to anyone who would like an insight into the minds (often closed minds) of the general public who have been manipulated by the mass media into almost decleration of war on Hackers and other such sub-cultures of hacking. This article is from Adequacy.org and as such copyright and the rest of it. Programming computers is, for practically everyone, something done far away in exotic software engineering facilities by a priesthood of ultra-specialized, half-mad obsessive-compulsives. This is as it should be, and it is where we get the software we use every day to do our online banking, send email, and get productive work done. Though few normal people have any experience of it, or know anyone who does it, there is another kind of programming performed outside this legitimate sphere, one that you probably assumed was illegal, but shockingly, is not. This other kind of programming also affects us every day, but negatively, as a continuous series of massive disruptions to the worldwide economy in the form of viruses, in the form of important and useful computer services being sabotaged with denial-of-service, in the form of defacement attacks, and in the form of substantially higher prices for all sorts of intellectual property such as software, DVD movies and music on CD, all due to piracy. I'm talking about "hacking" of course. It is the evil dark side to all the good that computers have brought us, and we are all sick of it. The time has come to put a stop to "hacking", because we can no longer tolerate the damage "hackers" cause, and the potential risk of terrorism when, not if, "hackers" go to work for such forces of mayhem as have begun an onslaught of terror against not just the United States, but Western Civilization's freedom to be loose and decadent in general. For a time, our society tolerated "hackers" because they promised that something useful would come of their shady and secretive tinkering. Yet we have had nothing but a harvest of bitter fruit from "hackers", and it is now time to pull the plug. It is time to ban all unlicensed computer programming, and take steps to ensure that no one outside of government, select universities, and state-sanctioned private-sector corporate software engineering facilities is given the knowledge, skills, or means to write or compile computer code of any kind. Amateur or hobbyist computer programming has grown from a minor annoyance to a major social disease, and it simply can no longer be tolerated. Although ordinary decent people will find this suggestion to be obvious to the point of banality -- in fact, I'm sure many of you are surprised that amateur computer programming was ever legal! -- many of those who associate themselves with the "hacker community" will bridle at the suggestion. Strictly as an exercise, it would perhaps be diverting to entertain some of their more obvious objections. The first cry in defense of hobbyists toying with this dangerous technology is that hackers have already proven their worth by producing a valuable piece of software -- namely, the Apache web server. Others would even claim that more than one useful program has been written in the garages and and lonely bedrooms of hobbyists. There are two delusions at work here. One of these delusions is that any of the Open Source applications that have found some utility in business and industry were written by amateurs. The truth is that Apache began it's life as the work of professional coders employed by Amazon.com, and as any software engineer you want to ask can tell you, nothing of value was added by anyone but professionals. In truth, the work of the gainfully employed programmers on this project was often interrupted and even sabotaged by the ham-fisted meddling of the teenage wanna-be's and self-styled "gurus" who have accumulated around professional Open Source projects like so many leeches and barnacles. This episode alone demonstrates that if there is anything good to come out of Open Source methodology, it will only be helped along by the removal of dilettantes from the picture. Indeed, once the "hackers" have been outlawed, Open Source will very likely reach new heights of utility and quality, and perhaps even fulfill the promise of greatness that Open Source advocates have been making for years. The other delusion, or I should say piece of misinformation, that has been perpetrated by "hackers" is that there are many other "tools" that have been created by hackers and gifted to a grateful world by our benevolent hobbyists. What about Emacs, for example? What about it? Emacs was originally created at MIT, a trusted part of the US military research establishment. Obviously, such facilities and their (suitably cleared) employees will never be banned. The time has come to ban the reckless tourists from the programming field, not legitimate university researchers. It is true that Emacs, and similar tools have subsequently been "enhanced" by "hackers". Generally, we have seen a pattern of mind-boggling feature creep and software bloat as a result of this. Emacs, for all its admirers, is the worst known example of this. In addition, all of the "functionality" that has been added to Emacs, or other "tools" touted by free software hackers such as Flex, Bison, gcc, etc. are hacker's tools. That means that they are like lock picks or zip guns. They have no inherent functionality that is not ultimately malevolent and illegal in its purpose. This is not utility or service. This is disservice. The reason that hobbyists work so feverishly hard on creating this kind of tool is precisely because they are locked out of the world of the normal, decent software engineer, where professional-grade IDEs, debuggers, and similar tools are abundant. Those with ultimately criminal intent must cobble together their own weapons. There are dozens, even hundreds of these types of destructive programs in circulation, such as those mentioned, as well as the notorious "Back Orifice", or the hacker operating system, "Lunix". While a "hacker" could disingenuously and spuriously argue that each one of these various illegal programs has some redeeming social value, it is clear that taken as a whole, such "warez" do not in fact benefit anyone except "hackers" and other criminals. Rather than waste any more time tediously demonstrating this fact for each of these "hacker's" tools, it would be best to move on to the other canard that "hackers" raise in defense of their "freedom" to "hack". And that would be freedom itself. Is there a right to "hack"? Well, of course there most certainly is not. Is there a right to build atomic bombs or breed anthrax bacilli in one's back yard? Is there a right to spy on your government and pass on that information to our foreign enemies, merely because you have chosen espionage as a "hobby"? Perhaps you could claim that your interest in espionage is driven by an innate curiosity, a desire to discover new things and understand how the world works. And so what? Such apologetics are amusing coming from children, but to hear an adult make such excuses is not funny at all. It is merely sad. Few precocious adolescent "hackers" are capable of understanding why responsible nations must ban "hacking", but as adults we can all recognize that these apologetics for hobbyist "hacking" carry no weight at all, and so we must do what is right. If you style yourself a "hacker" and you really want to play around with dangerous toys, be it source code, fissionable material, or biotoxins, then you have only one route open to you: go to college and prove that you really have the mental horsepower to cut the mustard, and prove also that you are a loyal patriot who can be trusted with potentially deadly power. Then, and only then, will a decent society trust you with the secrets of our most awesome technology. Those too impatient to wait, too dull to get into a university, and too flaky to get security clearance due to low character, drug abuse, and trafficking with unsavory characters are simply out of luck. And it's a good thing too. Is it practical to ban "hacking" now? Absolutely. There is no better time than now. As we have seen by the recent mass murders by terrorists, computer technology is a mainstay of criminals, and they rely most on such "free" tools as text editors and military-grade encryption programs that "hackers" use simply because they think it is cute to play with such power. But the rest of society has lost patience with this childish diddling, and the civilized world has said unequivocally that we want strong legal safeguards enacted to put an end to "hacking" and terrorism. We most especially have no qualms about banning activities like playing with explosives or creating software when these so-called "hobbies" are restricted to a tiny fringe element who for whatever reason gets no pleasure from healthy pastimes like fly fishing or drinking alcohol at gentlemen's clubs. Put simply, normal folks are not going to let themselves get blown up because a tiny minority of freaks like to "hack". If you aren't willing to code for Uncle Sam, then don't code at all. Author's note: Since it is likely that many so-called g**ks or "hackers" will read this article and will perhaps become angry about it, and then, typically, lose control of their anger, I want to this opportunity to ask them to please refrain from attacking Adequacy.org in retaliation. Though you might disagree with an opinion that you read, that is no reason to launch a denial of service attack against the medium. Please use your reason and, if you feel strongly, engage in a polite dialogue, rather than acting out your anger with illegal "hacking" attacks. Thank you for not attacking this web site. read comments (62) | write comment

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"...all these things that shall come to pass."
by mattd 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

Subject: Proffr1 the Illuminator. Born 1955 died 2091,proffr1 the illuminator is the eco-anark apostle,international insane saint and punk patron of Anarchia.He was the first to institute global democratic libertarian socialism as crypto-anarchy. The anarchists mainline that the faith was preached by the apostles bart and thaddeus.Thaddeus especially.(thanks chief!)The story has been taken over somewhat by the ameroanachists.Their land being the first to turn crypto-anarchist.In their version proffr1 was the son of a panthein anark who murdered king kong 2 and then drowned while crossing the river murri.Proffr1 was sepporated and baptized in the fosters by a surfragette who acted in accordance a tele-vision.Proffr1 married, then soon after smarted from his wife who became a pro,singer,dancer,actress and dowager empress on rollerskates. Proffr1 had travelled to americana where he refused to take part in human sacrifice ordered by king george.He further enraged the king by declaring himself an anarchist so when king george found out proffs father slew king kong he had him thrown into a supermax.There he was tortured in various ways with christian video nasties and bad food and coffee.The only thing that kept proffr1 sane was when he befriended a rat who passed messages between cells.Proffr1 was also sustained in his time of trial by a pious widow who bought him psychodalek drugs and pron and daphne. Meanwhile the tyrant george had gone from bad to worse.A holy virgin who resists the crazy kings depraved advances is martyred.Rhizsome plays a great part in this story as she is driven mad by the sadistic lust of the bloodthirsty vampire king george the wicked.Finally as the crowds recoil in complete horror,the kings brother see's that he is mad and prays for help.At the very moment of doom he see's a vision off cape canaveral that only proffr can save king george.Proffr1 is bought from the dungeons, and placed before the bestial george, proceeds to exorcise the evil from him. His logical,precise and poetic lucidity charm the entire court.The long discourse of the anabasis of proffr1 becomes required holovid viewing and outrates anal gang bang 6.on channel 99. Following the fantastic conversion of a boar into a peacable learned primate,proffr1 moves around the kingdom in style staking unregenerate KG wannabees and larrabees that refuse enlightenment.There are suprisingly few as excited web surfers and SMSers spread the word of his and Rhizsomes coming.The contrast could not be greater as if lemon were suddenly squeezed into full cream milk.The false gods and werewolves are driven into caucus were they perish beneath a cypher/sword and mentalstorm.Eventually the movement leads to the collapse of govts worldwide.Truly it is written that we were in darkness before knowing of the cypher/sword of crypto-anarchy wielded by mentalstorm prophet and honorary professor1, the Illuminator.

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IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan
by Jei 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:25:41 -0800 From: Deon Masker <deonmm(a)earthlink.net> Reply-To: Conspiracy-Theory(a)yahoogroups.com To: ddDeon <deonmm(a)earthlink.net> Subject: [Conspiracy-Theory] Fw: [Renegades_Coalition] IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan Disclaimer: ~~For entertainment or educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] Should this email has reached you in error, please return it with "removePatriotList" in the subject line or just click here: mailto:deonmm@earthlink.net?subject=removePatriot/88L ----- Original Message ----- From: " To: < Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:42 AM Subject: IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan >From the news Desk at YACE Freedom 91.9 FM Help spread the news! Long Live the Republic, Death to the new world order! **************************************************************************** **** IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen Local Cops, Sheriff Refuse to Prosecute http://www.4bypass.com/feature.htm by Pat Shannan Dec. 2001 A sign spotted recently over the door of one IRS office says: "Seizure Fever Catch It!" Word has it that the IRS agent with the best seizure rate for the week is rewarded with a brief respite and other job "perks." Apparently the pressure to hit his weekly plunder bonus was more than one revenuer could stand, and when he was asked to show the law justifying his actions, he blew a head gasket. The Oct. 2 incident occurred when Wiley Davis, an IRS Team Manager from Colorado, became agitated with Las Vegas resident Ken Nicholson, 37, during a hearing to discuss an IRS lien against some property owned by Nicholson's friend, Keith Milbourn. Davis, 45, had been brought in from Denver specifically for the Milbourn case. The Las Vegas Tribune first reported the altercation as arising from a tax dispute involving an IRS lien against some property belonging to Ken Nicholson. This was inaccurate. Nicholson had gone along as counsel for his friends, Keith and Shawna Milbourn, and as a witness to the proceedings. It was Milbourn's case that was in dispute. They had also taken along court reporter Beatrice Conner, who caught the whole incident on audiotape. Nicholson had Power of Attorney to speak for Milbourn, 32. Davis was assisted by a female agent. Throughout the hearing, the two men made it clear that they were not going to take Davis' word for anything and would need actual documentation to prove the IRS' stand. Finally, Nicholson said that they would be willing to pay whatever the IRS claimed Milbourn owed if Davis could: 1) Produce a Notice and Demand for the tax; and 2) Give a Code Section which made Milbourn liable. Nicholson said, and witnesses as well as the tape recording concur, that Davis did not attempt to produce that evidence but instead became visibly angry, lost his self-control and attacked Nicholson. Offense is the Best Defense "Out of nowhere," said Nicholson, "he jumped up out of his chair and came around the table, grabbed my chair, and began bouncing it up and down. He shoved it forward and pushed me toward the table. [In the process,] my legs came apart and were straddling the arm of the chair. With three or four quick jerks, he yanked the arm of the chair upward and into my groin. Then he grabbed me and began to physically evict me from the room." Security officers came in and stopped the melee at the Oakley Boulevard office of the IRS in Las Vegas. Court stenographer Beatrice Conner was shocked speechless when Nicholson was knocked to the floor. "It was totally without provocation," she said. "He (Davis) was so angry and violent that if he had had a gun, he would have pulled it out!" Keith Milbourn, who witnessed the whole meeting and scuffle, gave more details: "By the time we called the police there were about ten people in the hallway including other agents, the witnesses and security guards," Milbourn told us, adding that the other IRS agent who was in the room, Renee Swells, was "surprised and shocked" by Davis' action. Swells was unavailable for comment. Milbourn and Nicholson had called 911 "and the cops arrived in five minutes all gung-ho and ready to arrest Ken. However, when they heard the tape played back, they all fell silent, not knowing what to do." So the officers did nothing. No arrest was made. Both men said they tried to report the incident to the U.S. attorney's office, as well as the FBI, but both Justice Department entities declined to take their report. The same proved to be true at the county level with Sheriff Jerry Keller. "I know that if I would have assaulted the IRS agent, I would be sitting in jail right now," Nicholson said. "But because the IRS agent is the one who assaulted me, Metro [Las Vegas Police] only took a statement and let him go." Hidden Ball Trick When the Metro police came out, Nicholson gave a voluntary statement backed up by his witnesses and the tape recording. He was told that he would have to wait five days before the report would be actually recorded in the police records. "On the sixth day, I went in and found out that no police report had been made at all. When I demanded that the report be filed and made official, I was told that I had a statute of limitations of five days to ask and demand prosecution from the date of the incident and that now I was too late." In other words, Nicholson was hoodwinked by officialdom. A spokesman for the Las Vegas Police Department said that investigators informed Nicholson he had to contact the department within five days of the incident if he wanted to initiate action against Davis, since it was "just a misdemeanor battery." LVMPD officials are sticking to their story that Nicholson had not contacted the department seeking action against Davis. The spokesman also said the department gave all of the information to the IRS Criminal Investigation Division. No announcement has been forthcoming as to whether Davis has been terminated, placed on leave pending an investigation, or is being held for psychiatric observation. "If Nicholson wants prosecution, he can contact the general investigations division within the department and they can move forward on it," the unnamed spokesman added. However, the frustrations of not seeing any justice in the criminal courts have motivated Nicholson toward a civil action. 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[Spy News] FBI expands hunt on warez scene (fwd)
by Jei 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:45:33 +0100 From: Mario Profaca <Mario.Profaca(a)zg.tel.hr> Reply-To: spynews-owner(a)yahoogroups.com To: "[Spy News]" <spynews(a)yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Spy News] FBI expands hunt on warez scene http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=2023 FBI expands hunt on warez scene Posted by me101 on 07:51 EST on 18 Dec 2001 - 12:51 GMT | 25 comments Found this over on GeekNews, pointing to a story over on New Order, regarding some additional information in relation to the FBI's ongoing warez raids. The FBI has, in the past week, been involved in raids against WAREZ groups, including 90+ scene group senior members and leaders in US, Canada, Britain, Australia, Norway, 2 cracking groups in Poland. New raids are expected in the next days or so.. Now We've got confirmed insider information, that four major efnet servers are currently running in debug mode, which enables them to see ALL private traffic, like private chat, passwords sent to channel protection bots, messages, etc. and the information is being filtered and sent to the FBI, which requested this. Currently, a big EDU server, and .ORG server. --- This mail, sent by Mario Profaca, is clean, certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.309 / Virus Database: 170 - Release Date: 17. 12. 01 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/75YKVC/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/TySplB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ============================================== SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html ============================================== *** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Spy News is making it available without profit to SPY NEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods, techniques, human rights, civil liberties, social justice and other intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational purposes only. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use,' you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------------------------------- SPY NEWS home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews To change your subscription mode to Daily Digest (one message a day) send a blank message: mailto:spynews-digest@yahoogroups.com Please note that replying to THIS e-mail will not remove you from the mailing list. To unsubscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:spynews-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Mario Profaca, independent journalist, SPY NEWS eGroup list owner, editor & moderator, is a member of of the Committee of Concerned Journalists, an initiative administered through the offices of the Project for Excellence in Journalism in Washington, D.C. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan
by Jei 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:25:41 -0800 From: Deon Masker <deonmm(a)earthlink.net> Reply-To: Conspiracy-Theory(a)yahoogroups.com To: ddDeon <deonmm(a)earthlink.net> Subject: [Conspiracy-Theory] Fw: [Renegades_Coalition] IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan Disclaimer: ~~For entertainment or educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] Should this email has reached you in error, please return it with "removePatriotList" in the subject line or just click here: mailto:deonmm@earthlink.net?subject=removePatriot/88L ----- Original Message ----- From: " To: < Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:42 AM Subject: IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen, by Pat Shannan >From the news Desk at YACE Freedom 91.9 FM Help spread the news! Long Live the Republic, Death to the new world order! **************************************************************************** **** IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Assaults Citizen Local Cops, Sheriff Refuse to Prosecute http://www.4bypass.com/feature.htm by Pat Shannan Dec. 2001 A sign spotted recently over the door of one IRS office says: "Seizure Fever Catch It!" Word has it that the IRS agent with the best seizure rate for the week is rewarded with a brief respite and other job "perks." Apparently the pressure to hit his weekly plunder bonus was more than one revenuer could stand, and when he was asked to show the law justifying his actions, he blew a head gasket. The Oct. 2 incident occurred when Wiley Davis, an IRS Team Manager from Colorado, became agitated with Las Vegas resident Ken Nicholson, 37, during a hearing to discuss an IRS lien against some property owned by Nicholson's friend, Keith Milbourn. Davis, 45, had been brought in from Denver specifically for the Milbourn case. The Las Vegas Tribune first reported the altercation as arising from a tax dispute involving an IRS lien against some property belonging to Ken Nicholson. This was inaccurate. Nicholson had gone along as counsel for his friends, Keith and Shawna Milbourn, and as a witness to the proceedings. It was Milbourn's case that was in dispute. They had also taken along court reporter Beatrice Conner, who caught the whole incident on audiotape. Nicholson had Power of Attorney to speak for Milbourn, 32. Davis was assisted by a female agent. Throughout the hearing, the two men made it clear that they were not going to take Davis' word for anything and would need actual documentation to prove the IRS' stand. Finally, Nicholson said that they would be willing to pay whatever the IRS claimed Milbourn owed if Davis could: 1) Produce a Notice and Demand for the tax; and 2) Give a Code Section which made Milbourn liable. Nicholson said, and witnesses as well as the tape recording concur, that Davis did not attempt to produce that evidence but instead became visibly angry, lost his self-control and attacked Nicholson. Offense is the Best Defense "Out of nowhere," said Nicholson, "he jumped up out of his chair and came around the table, grabbed my chair, and began bouncing it up and down. He shoved it forward and pushed me toward the table. [In the process,] my legs came apart and were straddling the arm of the chair. With three or four quick jerks, he yanked the arm of the chair upward and into my groin. Then he grabbed me and began to physically evict me from the room." Security officers came in and stopped the melee at the Oakley Boulevard office of the IRS in Las Vegas. Court stenographer Beatrice Conner was shocked speechless when Nicholson was knocked to the floor. "It was totally without provocation," she said. "He (Davis) was so angry and violent that if he had had a gun, he would have pulled it out!" Keith Milbourn, who witnessed the whole meeting and scuffle, gave more details: "By the time we called the police there were about ten people in the hallway including other agents, the witnesses and security guards," Milbourn told us, adding that the other IRS agent who was in the room, Renee Swells, was "surprised and shocked" by Davis' action. Swells was unavailable for comment. Milbourn and Nicholson had called 911 "and the cops arrived in five minutes all gung-ho and ready to arrest Ken. However, when they heard the tape played back, they all fell silent, not knowing what to do." So the officers did nothing. No arrest was made. Both men said they tried to report the incident to the U.S. attorney's office, as well as the FBI, but both Justice Department entities declined to take their report. The same proved to be true at the county level with Sheriff Jerry Keller. "I know that if I would have assaulted the IRS agent, I would be sitting in jail right now," Nicholson said. "But because the IRS agent is the one who assaulted me, Metro [Las Vegas Police] only took a statement and let him go." Hidden Ball Trick When the Metro police came out, Nicholson gave a voluntary statement backed up by his witnesses and the tape recording. He was told that he would have to wait five days before the report would be actually recorded in the police records. "On the sixth day, I went in and found out that no police report had been made at all. When I demanded that the report be filed and made official, I was told that I had a statute of limitations of five days to ask and demand prosecution from the date of the incident and that now I was too late." In other words, Nicholson was hoodwinked by officialdom. A spokesman for the Las Vegas Police Department said that investigators informed Nicholson he had to contact the department within five days of the incident if he wanted to initiate action against Davis, since it was "just a misdemeanor battery." LVMPD officials are sticking to their story that Nicholson had not contacted the department seeking action against Davis. The spokesman also said the department gave all of the information to the IRS Criminal Investigation Division. No announcement has been forthcoming as to whether Davis has been terminated, placed on leave pending an investigation, or is being held for psychiatric observation. "If Nicholson wants prosecution, he can contact the general investigations division within the department and they can move forward on it," the unnamed spokesman added. However, the frustrations of not seeing any justice in the criminal courts have motivated Nicholson toward a civil action. 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May the dog
by mattd 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

In the film "wag the dog",the producer who wants the credit gets the chop.One nod from Conrad and "jesus,mary and joseph!,dustin hoffman gets the chop.I was thinking about the crook dustin played in "straight time",while the CJ drama blew up.He's a gritty little bugger who gets rousted by a pudgy PO and blamed for a neighbors roach,busted back to county. When finally released,after the entire demeaning process,he takes fantastic revenge,cuffing the ugly PO to a centre strip light pole with his pants down! Its quite a good film with teresa russell and harry dean stanton,it looks better in B+W.too. We may learn a lot from hollywood.Like the producer who made two memo's for each movie,butt covering as artform. Then theres "the player".threats persist after you kill david Kahane? Dont sweat on it,script it! In spite of there not being many good movies lately,the assassination politics story is writing itself.kurt prochnow might be better to play me than mal.G.There's a distinct lack of luv interest so far and this is a fatal weakness I propose to try and remedy ASAP.Honeytrap me mossad,pleeze! We know from certain *barium* emissions that the state is watching us in deadly earnest.We also know by timmies smug self satisfaction.(thats getting beyond obnoxious timmy btw) that he,at least,thinks *its*TM is a slam dunk.OK lets ask some ladies in the room.We all have to share the world and according to agent faustine should worry about each others rights. Im not allergic to that idea,as long as we all know that truth and rec commissions wont cut it, we should come to some arrangements to ease into anarchy with the minimal amount of future shock.-For the sake of the children.-Im asking jessica S,dorothy if shes not to busy and mary (fbi) to come out from behind the curtain.(you dont want to be mistaken for rats,do you?) Come out and lets play with these concepts,boil them down for the dumb dumbs in high places and farm them out to the PR firms,SF writers,star trek script writers and hairdressers that shape the consciousness of world culture,such as it is.Theres no future in negativity,fortunately!

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