October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Yahoo - Oakland airport to begin using facial ID system
by Jim Choate 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/011017/n16177621_2.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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NSA comints saudi pigs
by mattd 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

"Sy Hersh's report on NSA echeloning Royal Saudi pigs: http://www.newyorker.com/FACT/?011022fa_FACT1" Thanks jya,By coincidence I was reading 'one point safe'.A factional papperbok that has some interesting shit inc.major character,'jessica stern'(authors are andrew and lesley cockburn)Page 246.refers to the Fahd-Saddam nuclear project that swollowed up to 5 billion from 85-90.Also some gossip about customs-cia turf wars and customs 'stings'run out of the old WTC(pages 264-5)Warner books. All ancient hirstory,I know,like the giving of a boeing to saddam from qatar. last nov.With friends like these,the stupid ameriklan empire hardly needs me, or far better enemies than me. Your shadow in the morning striding behind you, Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you; I will show you fear in a handful of dust" -TS Eliot, The Waste Land

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warning cell phone use may cause cancer
by kris_mccraw＠hotmail.com 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

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by leslie4738＠yahoo.com 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

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Web Page - Gate Controlers - Wirless Security Equipment
by Linear Corporation 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

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RIAA wants to be able to hack "online pirates"
by Eric Murray 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

http://news.lycos.com/news/story.asp?section=LycosBreaking&storyID=47552&fr… RIAA thinks that it's legal for them to hack people to disable "copyright pirates", but worries that the anti-hacking provisions in the "USA" act would make it illegal. Eric

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Re: Canada slaughters civil rights
by Declan McCullagh 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 09:50:29PM -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > The first problem is pretty unsolvable. (Starting your own country is not > a feasible solution, in my opinion. For instance, Sealand exists because > Britain tolerates it. As soon as it is branded "a terrorist bunker in > cyberspace" there would be plenty of justification for bombing it.) Or yanking its network connections, which I wrote about a while back. And here's what one professor of international law at Georgetown says: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,36756,00.html "I suspect we could blow them out of the water, although I wouldn't recommend that, and if they were in fact propagating illegal material I bet nobody would really care. There would be few consequences if nobody is interested." -Declan

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Re: Canada slaughters civil rights
by Tim May 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

On Monday, October 15, 2001, at 08:44 PM, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > It's convenient that ZKS dropped Freedom from it's product line, > nicely dodging the issue of "harboring terrorists." > > Hrmm. Tim's been saying this for quite a while, and it's only going to > get > worse. Not just this, but they did it with an unacceptable amount of warning. (Seven days, versus the past couple of years of obvious trends. It doesn't take much neural processing to see that their sudden re-focussing on some bullshit product like "cookie management" is a response to the new climate of fear.) I'm surprised there has been little discussion (any discussion?) of the NAI decision this past week to lay off 250 of the 300 PGP employees (*) and to either sell the division to someone or abandon it completely. (* As with ZKS and their couple of hundred employees, just how are 300 PGP employees justified? As the comments on Slashdot point out, just how the hell does a product which has been evolving _very_ slowly conceivably justify 250-300 employees? DilbertWorld, obviously.) > http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/americas/10/15/rec.attack.canada.reut/index. > html > > OTTAWA, Oct 15 (Reuters) -- Canada unveiled a sweeping security bill on > Monday to ban fund-raising by terrorist groups, widen wiretapping > authority and allow police to make preventive arrests of people they > think > will engage in terrorism. Which, by the way, is _precisely_ the scenario I presented to Austin and Hammie in the late fall of 1998 when we met in Menlo Park. What are you going to do, I asked, when the RCMP says that a terrorist has hijacked the Queen's plane and ZKS is being ordered to reveal the mapping of identities? Can't do it, you say? Fine, then you're out of business as of right now. The notion of a central service, located in a known location and subject to some nation's laws, is ludicrous. ZKS founders said that they Canada was a "crypto haven" compared to the U.S., indicating deep confusion about just what it was Canada was more liberal about (export laws) and what it was Canada was more repressive about (nearly everything else). Most importantly of all, Canada is a second cousin to the U.S. and does what it is told to do, with no constitutional niceties. So, NAI is abandoning PGP (no great loss, actually), ZKS is abandoning Freedom (ditto), and some crypto luminaries are falling all over themselves to support police state measures. And, ironically, it won't make us one whit safer. Ben was right. --Tim May, Occupied America "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759.

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re: Who represents the detained? Nobody...
by Anonymous 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

>"In a high-security wing of Manhattan's Metropolitan Correctional Center, >an unknown number of men with Middle Eastern names are being held in >solitary confinement on the ninth floor, locked in 8- by 10-foot cells with >little more than cots, thin blankets and, if they request it, copies of the >Koran. Every two hours, guards roust them to conduct a head count. They >have no contact with each other or their families and limited access to >their lawyers. 5000 people went through a 1000-degree meat grinder on 9/11 without an opportunity for any due process, and don't fucking forget it.

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Reason Magazine And Foundation Support Encryption Rights
by Matthew Gaylor 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

I want to thank both Mike Alissi, (malissi(a)reason.com) Publisher of Reason Magazine and David Nott (davidn(a)reason.org) President, Reason Foundation who each sent me a copy of Jacob Sullum's October 16, 2001 essay "Fear of Prying" <http://www.reason.com/sullum/101601.html>. Which I then sent to the subscribers of Freematt's Alerts (10,000+) and to several other mailing lists yesterday. Mr. Sullum writes: "Boston Globe columnist Cathy Young, a colleague of mine at Reason magazine, has confessed that "the idea of people being able to encrypt electronic communications so that they are beyond surveillance" has always seemed "scary" to her, "precisely because of the threat of terrorism." This is like saying that computers or telephones or airplanes or box cutters are scary. Any technology can be used for good or ill. The question is whether the potential for evil justifies restrictions on legitimate uses." And Sullum ends with: "Misuse of official records is not exactly unheard of in this country, and the problem would be magnified if every unsavory regime that has enlisted in the war on terrorism were to be trusted with the keys to its citizens' e-mail. For the dissidents Phil Zimmermann is rightly proud of helping, the whole point of encryption is to guard against official surveillance." I was somewhat surprised and disturbed that Reason would publish Cathy Young's original article that appeared first in the Boston Globe, September 19, 2001 and then on Reason Online <http://www.reason.com/cy/cy092401.html>. I think Freematt's Alerts subscriber Charles Platt <cp(a)panix.com>, the distinguished science fiction author and senior writer at WIRED Magazine had the best response when he wrote: "Bad enough that a contributing editor to Reason should indulge in the cliche-ridden handwringing of a statist apologist; far worse that these less-than-cerebral platitudes should be disseminated via an establishment publication, where Ms. Young is liable to be seen as a libertarian emissary. To Cathy Young: All systems entail risk. As has just been demonstrated, a government-run system for terrorism-prevention does not eliminate risk. It only eliminates the superficial appearance of risk. This is far more dangerous than an honest approach in which risk is recognized and individuals are encouraged to deal with it instead of running to their elected representatives and asking to be protected. "A free society is not a suicide pact"? No, it's a matter of principle, and of courage. I really think you should reconsider your political affiliations. --Charles Platt Senior Writer, Wired magazine" For better or worse Reason Magazine is viewed as a libertarian/freemarket publication. The magazine has in the last decade doubled it's circulation to over 60,000 which places it over conservative publications such as the Weekly Standard and nearly that of the liberal New Republic. See Columbus Dispatch Metro Columnist Steve Stephens's <sstephens(a)dispatch.com> October 15, 2001 column "The Voice of 'Reason' Lives In Small Ohio Town" where he interviews Reason's editor Nick Gillespie <gillespie(a)reason.com> See: <http://libpub.dispatch.com/cgi-bin/documentv1?DBLIST=cd01&DOCNUM=4493 2&TERMV=31160:11:> I'm optimistic that Reason won't lose it's way and veer away from their libertarian roots and I might add that Jacob Sullum's article is a step in the right and libertarian direction. Regards, Matt Gaylor- ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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