November 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

CDR: Important Membership Information
by announce＠inbox.nytimes.com 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

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by Robert Huddleston 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

believer(a)telepath.com) Subject: ip: Know your enemy By Linda A. Prussen-Razzano http://www.enterstageright.com/1200freepers.htm Enter Stage Right Know your enemy By Linda A. Prussen-Razzano Senator Joseph Lieberman, Vice President Al Gore's running mate, publicly issued allegations that the Republican Party was bussing paid operatives to Florida for the expressed purpose of intimidating local election officials into stopping the manual recount. Other Democrat spinmeisters are now running amok on the airwaves decrying any public displays of Republican outrage as "dangerous." In effect, this is the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy revisited, where anyone uncomfortable with Democrat shenanigans is a vicious partisan; therefore, their indignation is evil in its intent. Not only is this approach pitiful, it reveals just how little they know about their "opposition." The rallies and protests I've seen on the television have all the hallmarks of a "FReep." FReep is a term coined several years ago by the registered users at FreeRepublic.com, a political action web-site for conservatives. The "Sore Loserman 2000" signs now peppering mainstream news casts were not compiled by the Republican Party. This ingenious phrase was coined by three registered users, "CPL Baum," "Registered," and "Mass Exodus." [Click here for the story or here to buy t-shirts] The now famous "Cops Cheer," heard in the background of Washington reporter's newscasts, originated in the weekly Washington, D.C. protests by, yet again, FreeRepublic. On their own time and their own dime, this loosely knit group of motivated citizens has been holding peaceful protests across the country for at least two years. If the Republican Party was actually paying protestors, as Senator Lieberman would have us believe, then "Angelwood" and several other "Freepers" have considerable back pay coming to them. Obviously, it's easier for Senator Lieberman to believe the Republican Party is bussing people in and paying them to protest; the alternative means that a genuine ground swell of disgust is now leaving the privacy of living rooms and spilling into the streets. Senator Lieberman would like to believe these protestors are simply cheap political hacks, ready to mouth any slogan for the almighty dollar; the alternative means that average men and women are using their holiday time to make their voice heard at such a critical juncture in our nation's history. After taking such a disastrous hit with their notorious 5-page military memorandum, they can't afford any more losses in the public relations war and must immediately attempt to discredit any voice of dissent. Their response backfired. The buzz is that several otherwise complacent groups are now active and outraged. Instead of sitting back, watching as "dimples" are divined while bona fide military ballots are discarded, they plan to also take to the streets in peaceful, but vocal protest. How many protestors will it take, Senator Lieberman, before you realize the Republican Party can't possibly be "paying" them all? The pinnacle of this debacle was Senator Lieberman's assertion that these protests were meant to intimidate election board officials. This, from the campaign that threatened and effected legal action against election board officials because they weren't following orders? This, from the campaign that excoriated Secretary of State Harris and maligned Republicans? This, from the campaign that is actively attempting to influence representatives to the Electoral College? If the allegation weren't so pathetic, it would be funny. Finally, these protestors are not "thugs." They are citizens of the United States. You presumably want to be our Vice President; that makes you our servant, not our master. When they, and others like them, peacefully protest, they are exercising their Constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights; only a fascist would consider this "dangerous." ========= web posted November 27, 2000 Linda Prussen-Razzano is an advisory board member and frequent contributor to Rightgrrl and a columnist for the American Partisan. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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by Robert Huddleston 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

believer(a)telepath.com) Subject: ip: Know your enemy By Linda A. Prussen-Razzano http://www.enterstageright.com/1200freepers.htm Enter Stage Right Know your enemy By Linda A. Prussen-Razzano Senator Joseph Lieberman, Vice President Al Gore's running mate, publicly issued allegations that the Republican Party was bussing paid operatives to Florida for the expressed purpose of intimidating local election officials into stopping the manual recount. Other Democrat spinmeisters are now running amok on the airwaves decrying any public displays of Republican outrage as "dangerous." In effect, this is the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy revisited, where anyone uncomfortable with Democrat shenanigans is a vicious partisan; therefore, their indignation is evil in its intent. Not only is this approach pitiful, it reveals just how little they know about their "opposition." The rallies and protests I've seen on the television have all the hallmarks of a "FReep." FReep is a term coined several years ago by the registered users at FreeRepublic.com, a political action web-site for conservatives. The "Sore Loserman 2000" signs now peppering mainstream news casts were not compiled by the Republican Party. This ingenious phrase was coined by three registered users, "CPL Baum," "Registered," and "Mass Exodus." [Click here for the story or here to buy t-shirts] The now famous "Cops Cheer," heard in the background of Washington reporter's newscasts, originated in the weekly Washington, D.C. protests by, yet again, FreeRepublic. On their own time and their own dime, this loosely knit group of motivated citizens has been holding peaceful protests across the country for at least two years. If the Republican Party was actually paying protestors, as Senator Lieberman would have us believe, then "Angelwood" and several other "Freepers" have considerable back pay coming to them. Obviously, it's easier for Senator Lieberman to believe the Republican Party is bussing people in and paying them to protest; the alternative means that a genuine ground swell of disgust is now leaving the privacy of living rooms and spilling into the streets. Senator Lieberman would like to believe these protestors are simply cheap political hacks, ready to mouth any slogan for the almighty dollar; the alternative means that average men and women are using their holiday time to make their voice heard at such a critical juncture in our nation's history. After taking such a disastrous hit with their notorious 5-page military memorandum, they can't afford any more losses in the public relations war and must immediately attempt to discredit any voice of dissent. Their response backfired. The buzz is that several otherwise complacent groups are now active and outraged. Instead of sitting back, watching as "dimples" are divined while bona fide military ballots are discarded, they plan to also take to the streets in peaceful, but vocal protest. How many protestors will it take, Senator Lieberman, before you realize the Republican Party can't possibly be "paying" them all? The pinnacle of this debacle was Senator Lieberman's assertion that these protests were meant to intimidate election board officials. This, from the campaign that threatened and effected legal action against election board officials because they weren't following orders? This, from the campaign that excoriated Secretary of State Harris and maligned Republicans? This, from the campaign that is actively attempting to influence representatives to the Electoral College? If the allegation weren't so pathetic, it would be funny. Finally, these protestors are not "thugs." They are citizens of the United States. You presumably want to be our Vice President; that makes you our servant, not our master. When they, and others like them, peacefully protest, they are exercising their Constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights; only a fascist would consider this "dangerous." ========= web posted November 27, 2000 Linda Prussen-Razzano is an advisory board member and frequent contributor to Rightgrrl and a columnist for the American Partisan. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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CDR: Wanted TLD operators for the ORSC
by Joe Baptista 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

I'm looking for people who want to operate tlds in the orsc zone. You need to know BIND, and have a familiarity with database programming like mysql. If anyone is interested - send me a private email and i'll followup on it this weekend and we can start getting you online. The orsc needs new blood. It's stagnated at 380 member tlds. regards joe baptista -- Joe Baptista http://www.dot.god/ dot.GOD Hostmaster +1 (805) 753-8697

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CDR: Re: Imagine
by Gil Hamilton 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Alex B. Shepardsen writes: >So we've got a problem. The voting methods we have aren't adequate. It's >obvious that something needs to be done to fix this for the future... but >what would you have happen now? I wonder if Gore partisans would accept ANY voting method as adequate while their guy was behind. I don't really see that there is a problem. The methods of voting are a local and/or state matter. Various jurisdictions are already making plans to change their voting methods for the next election. Fine, that is their prerogative. However, if some localities continue to utilize punch cards and the so-called butterfly ballots, that's okay too. No ballot is going to be idiot proof (cause you know how ingenious those idiots are). There will always be spoiled ballots; it's just a matter of degree. The proportion of spoiled ballots in the "disputed" areas in Florida is no higher than in many other precincts throughout the country. Since those who created the ballot and who ran the election in the disputed areas of Florida are of the same party as Gore, and since the FL Supremes -- who pretty much just went out and made up their own laws to help Gore out -- are essentially all of Gore's party as well, I'm not worried that some great injustice has occurred despite Bush's brother being "governor of the province". The ballot design may well have been responsible for Bush winning and Gore losing, but since the decisions on the ballot design and deployment were made through the ordinary statutory mechanisms, well, it's just tough shit for Gore. (And as for the notion that some foreigners might think our election looks like that in a "banana republic": Who cares? If it lowers our credibility as the World's Policeman or as potential "election monitors" the next time a *real* banana republic holds an election, that's great! The less we stick our noses in others' business, the better.) >Without a full recount, Bush's victory will always be questioned. It is no longer possible to select a winner in the 2000 election whose victory will NOT be questioned by some. So what? At this point, no matter who wins, at least 48% of the population feels that the winner "stole the election". With respect to future elections, it is probably more advantageous to be the loser in this one (well, at least the losing party, if not the losing candidate). You go into the next election with a solid half of the population convinced that you got screwed; convince a small number of the other half and you've got the 2004 election sewn up. >With more legal battles from Gore, he loses credibility as the US citizens >lose faith in the electorial process. Only from simpletons who believe Gore's oh-so-sincere "every vote MUST be counted." I mean, really: it's a fine sentiment, but it's never going to happen. If our inability to reach perfection is going to cause citizens to "lose faith in the electorial[sic] process", it simply shows that they're not paying attention (big surprise). >How do you propose this be handled? I've not seen any good suggestions yet >that address all concerns. What's to handle? Those who don't like it either get over it, or they join the revolution :-). - GH _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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CDR: RE: Re: Jim Bell
by Fisher Mark 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

> (Wasn't Joshua the computer in "War Games"?) Yes -- or at least it was both the backdoor password and how the computer referred to itself when it was run using the backdoor. A movie that, sad to say, is no longer available to rent at all Blockbuster stores... (Missing from the Noblesville, IN store.) ==================================================== Mark Leighton Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics fisherm(a)tce.com Indianapolis, IN, USA "Display some adaptability." -- Doug Shaftoe, _Cryptonomicon_

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CDR: Mulle kybernetiK releases the MulleCipher Cryptography Framework
by R. A. Hettinga 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

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CDR: sex.com forgery reversed by judge
by anonymous＠openpgp.net 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Monday November 27 8:35 PM ET U.S. Judge Orders sex.com Address Returned to Owner By Andrew Quinn SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A judge ordered a major sex change on the Internet on Monday, ending a hot-blooded struggle over arguably the most valuable piece of real estate in cyberspace -- the rights to the name sex.com. U.S. District Judge James Ware ordered Stephen Cohen, who has turned the sex.com Web site into a multimillion pornography business, to turn the address over to San Francisco entrepreneur Gary Kremen -- who had the foresight to register the address in 1994, at the dawn of the Internet age. Im just a small guy and this is a huge guy who has built an empire based on fraud and deceit, an overjoyed Kremen told reporters outside the San Jose, Calif., courthouse after Wares decision. Im like a little guy, so I feel pretty good about it. Cohen did not return calls seeking comment in the case, and his lawyers declined to speak to reporters at the courthouse. The judges order marked an important step in resolving the issues of Internet claim-jumping and the real value of cyber real estate. According to Kremens lawyers, Cohen took control of the sex.com address in 1995 by presenting forged transfer of ownership documentation to Network Solutions Inc., which oversees the allocation of Web site addresses. Using a company registered in the British Virgin Islands, Cohen proceeded to turn sex.com into what Kremens lawyers call a multimillion dollar sex empire -- a one-stop shop for the nastiest, raunchiest pornography the Internet has to offer. ..snip.. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001127/wr/tech_sex_dc_1.html

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CDR: Janet Reno on Florida, children, violence
by Declan McCullagh 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Today: ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO'S SCHEDULE Attends Florida's Children Exposed to Violence "Safe from the Start" Summit, Palm Beach Community College, 4200 Congress Ave., Lake Worth, FL Location: Location Not Listed. Contact: 202-616-2771

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CDR: ip: Know your enemy By Linda A. Prussen-Razzano
by R. A. Hettinga 28 Nov '00

28 Nov '00

Geodesic politics. ;-). Cheers, RAH Who only started following <http://www.freerepublic.com> since this recent election fiasco began, though, of course, cypherpunks have heard of them pretty much since the site started. --- begin forwarded text

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