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Meeting: Austin, TX
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, The Austin Cypherpunks will be meeting this Saturday from 6-8pm at Ted's Greek Restaurant on Congress between 4th and 5th. We will be taking the tables in the rear. The main topic of discussion will be the proposed 1 hour public access video on cryptography. Also we will be discussing making some form of monthly key-signing. Hope to see you there!

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The corrected Mixmaster
by John Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The corrected mixmaster 2.0.3 is also available on vishnu.alias.net via the normal methods. I apologize for any inconvenience. John Perry - KG5RG - perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! Packet Radio - KG5RG(a)WA4IMZ.#SETX.TX.USA.NA WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMLpmXlOTpEThrthvAQFpSQP/euSY5hvIvSwRMZuiOEx9j6IER5k2rDEc 6rfNEccIP95YtGcDJ70lLbuTq4sHjrKYe2vyz9OpMn48mQEVfjcs/JFSt4xfpU8s hpK2a4HvWACBa/J9TKlgtEuXCrAkBoROkn6pVsV4hAqwDhM6oNuDaEk+93KVl/wn dJ/5+gqSiYY= =0EGC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Directed Hamiltonian Path Problem
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am curious on whether there are any applications of the directed Hamiltonian path problem to cryptography, zero-knowledge proofs, etcetera. My reaosn for asking is that I've come across something in my field (molecular genetics) that can be used to solve such problems in a couple of weeks or so. -Allen

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Re: Directed Hamiltonian Path Problem
by thad＠hammerhead.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I am curious on whether there are any applications of the directed > Hamiltonian path problem to cryptography, zero-knowledge proofs, etcetera. My > reaosn for asking is that I've come across something in my field (molecular > genetics) that can be used to solve such problems in a couple of weeks or so. > -Allen > > Secret sharing can be done by Hamiltonian paths. No public key code has been found to take advantage of those, or any other NP complete problem, so far as I know. DNA computing really doesn't solve the Hamiltonian graph problem, it just makes the biggest one that you can solve a little bit bigger. 500 point graphs remain insoluble (pun unitended) for earth-sized vats of DNA. Really. -- Thaddeus Beier email: thad(a)hammerhead.com Technology Development vox: 408) 286-3376 Hammerhead Productions fax: 408) 292-2244

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Re: Cypherpunk Certification Authority
by torrejr＠pcnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

So far, everybody on the net has discussed the fun part(s) of the CA issue. The techies talk about protocol, encryption ... in short the real FUN stuff. I have enjoyed diverging opinions of some of the participants. Many make excellent points and have taught me more than I ever dreamed to learn. Lawyers are already making money and preparing for the future :-) Some lawyers argue about liabilities and drool over new laws being proposed all over the country by other lawyers to guarantee future lawsuits. Another lawyer does not believe CAs are an option and make a good buck selling books to prove it (Electronic Commerce Law-Ben Wright squire) another publishes the American Bar Association CA liabilities, names it draft of the digital signature guidelines and goes to work for Verisign (CA? DS? UH?). I can keep talking about good stuff that has happen in the last few months for about everyone interested in the last frontier (the electronic one) and its trading posts (electronic commerce), but the fact is that there are no CAs in full production yet. Yeah! Verisign is around .... Santa Clara. Of course I have other choices (Did I say great choices?) like Cost in Sweden and at one time EuroCert in England was advertising on the net. I have been asking myself ... WHY? I can't accept the standard response: Fear to liability! Granted that the liability factor is important but my gut feeling tells me that's not the whole story. The hardware and the software is out there (I haven't commented on the quality of this stuff!). I thought that several companies who have indicated interest have all it takes to make a successfull CA but nobody seem to move reasonably fast. Is it possible that the process of issuing and maintaining a certificate is so complex and expensive? I think that MITRE did a study for NIST and they came-up with a cost of $800 per year per federal employee to maintain and administer a Federal CA. Any suggestion? PS I want to thank Robert Hettinga for his excellent work promoting the principles of the Cypherpunks, and for diseminating critical information that helps shape the corporate world for a better electronic future. ------------------------------------- Juan Rodriguez i Torrent torrejr(a)pcnet.com 11/27/95 23:54:24 -------------------------------------

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Re: The future will be easy to use (fwd)
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com (Jim Choate) on Mon, 27 Nov 8:54 PM >Don't hold your breath. The current market surveys say >that there is no market for them. Check out this weeks >PC Week or Mac Week, as they both have several >articles discussing this. Bottem line is that the under >$1000 computer seems to have no future either in >industry or the home. Peter Lewis reports in today's NYT on "doubts about the fantasy of a $500 'Network PC' " but quotes Eric Schmidt of Sun saying, "They will exist and they will be very successful, and not just from Sun and Oracle. The price points are going to be pretty low, and they'll look more like consumer electronics." Anybody want this mixed review send us a BOX_top.

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Inexpensive Crypto Boxes...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, The recent discussion on the <$1000 computer/appliance/digital-widget got me to thinking and I had a spasm... The new Sony Play Station is operating under a stripped down Unix. Considering the speed that these boxes are designed to run at it seems a natural for somebody to come up with a crypto workbench on ROM to install in one of these babies. Could program one of the game controller ports as a serial port and hook it to a Linux box (for example). Ta ta

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Re: Internet Terminals
by Jordan Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From mclow(a)owl.csusm.edu Mon Nov 27 20:07:37 1995 Would you write and send e-mail if you had no way of archiving it? This is what AOL is. Would you use "net-quicken", if it required all your data to be stored on a shared disk at Intuit? Who are you kidding? All your banking information is stored *at your bank* today; how is that any different? OBCrypto: none. /jordan

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Re: The future will be easy to use
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:12 PM 11/27/95 -0800, Jonathan Zamick wrote: > it > means forming a group, made up of Cypherpunk members perhaps, but much > smaller, and capable of working together. Also capable of handling not only > the theory, but good solid code, GUI, PR, meetings, talking to the > government, etc. Skip the talking to the government bit: Ignore, do not confront. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: The future will be easy to use
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:38 PM 11/27/95 -0500, James Black wrote: > As soon as PGP 3.0 is released I am planning on incorporating PGP into >Pine, and start putting it into more programs, to increase the usage of >encryption things before they go out. Is there any public spec for PGP 3.0? --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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