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Complete Internet Marketing
by 105263.2354＠compuserve.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Abusive crossposting by anonymous remailer user (Was: Gary Lee Burnore is
by StanSqncrs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 5/13/98 7:46:13 PM Central Daylight Time, gburnore(a)netcom.com writes: << and he couldn't possibly know who you are. >> It is my humble opinion, that nobody's cover has been blown, he fucked up. He cross-posted the same exact piece of spam (as some would say) to both me anonomosly, and to the list roughly at the same time. Stan Rosenthal

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No Subject
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[cons0005(a)algnet.algonquinc.on.ca wrote:] I was wondering if anyone knows of such a creature that I could send email to with an URL, and I would get a reply of that HTML file? example I email bot(a)somewhere.com with the Subject:http://www.hotmail.com and I will get an email of the HTML file at www.hotmail.com This would be handy because I don't have a broswer (2 meg RAM (I know)) and also for anonymity, cookies etc I couldn't be traced. ----- Actually you can do that really very easily. If you are interested in such Bot's. I really recommend you get O'Reilly's book: Web Client Programming, with Perl. It discusses to a large degree what your wanting to do. It has full source code as well, so you can take that and just fiddle with a bit until it suits your needs. Provided you or someone you know can program in Perl. I think one method you could do is to just use a majordomo server and tinker with it to suit the reception needs. Or you could on your own box, or a friends box. Make an account to the name you want, set up a resident program, with nohup or a simple cron job. Or do some script, that would serve equally as well. That could handle the reception facilities well enough. Then just use the modified bot to handle the HTML queries and sending and there you go. Although sending things back to the HTTP server in question might... interesting. If that place GET and POST methods for CGI scripts and dynamic pages, that raises some questions. Particularly, if the bot sends you the HTML doc that it requested, you view the page, yadda yadda yadda. It depends on how you want to work it and do it, you have to ask yourself. Do I want to send my request (whatever that maybe)from my machine? The request would go through. But it would be through your machine, and that would invalidate your anonymity. So thats a Bad Thing(tm) and out of the question. Or in cases like yours, the user might not have a browser. So that leaves it to us sending our request back to our automated little daemon and it does it for us. It would require just a little bit of handling and work to do the GET and POST methods for the CGI program your interacting with, but that would be minimal I think. I could be wrong however. In effect your using the bot as a kind of proxy for HTTP requests. If your really, REALLY desperate I might be able to quickly just put something together for you and post it here for you(or if another cypherpunk thats into Perl wants to do it, or if anyone else has any ideas). But you should be able to modify the code to suit whatever you want it to do. I've been experimenting with something similar, only on a slightly different note. If your patient, you can just subscribe to a majordomo "admin-help" list. Where the details of running such a thing are discussed by people that do. I'm sure one quite possibly exists somewhere. Then log on to a Bot mailing list and after hanging out on both for a while, asking a few questions perhaps you should be able to put something together I expect. Or as mgraffam(a)mhv.net suggests you could log into those machines and do it that way. Which gives me another idea, you could have the bot run lynx remotely and then pipe the output from that to the letter it would send you and visa versa. But that makes things more complicated as well too. I question the value of doing that as well, I think the overhead would be a bit much, as well as being a slight hassle. I think over all, the easiest thing to do would be to possibly follow mgraffam's suggestion and just do that. Those are my thoughts on things at least. I hope they help. I think the security possibilities of such a bot could be useful and could make a interesting discussion perhaps. There was one thread earlier that was discussing one such robot. From a government location, that was keeping tabs on crypto related sources. Crawling from link to link, from behind a firewall etc, etc, etc. If theres any more news relating to that thread, thats been uncovered I'd be interested in hearing more on it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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"Shamanism and the Drug Propaganda"
by drussell＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: I want to spam the Jury Duty information
by Eric Murray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous writes: > I think about putting up about $200 or so (whetever a decent spamming > will cost me) and spam the internet with the information about jurors > rights and jury nullification. > > Anyone thinks that it is a good idea? No, it's a bad idea. The ends do not justify the means. -- Eric Murray N*Able Technologies www.nabletech.com (email: ericm at the sites lne.com or nabletech.com) PGP keyid:E03F65E5

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Bernstein decision
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[There will be many chances to talk to the press today about this. Call them up. Tell them what it means.] Lucky Green said: > The ruling provides an interesting data point, but is inconsequential > to the software industry. Jonathan Wienke said: > The decision seems to be a step in the right > direction, but a VERY small one. However you slice it, getting a Federal judge to declare both crypto export control regimes unconstitutional is a major accomplishment. This court case has done what a decade of lobbying, two decades of citizen activism, and a decade of crypto software entrepreneurship were not able to do. (Though all these things contributed greatly.) It stopped the export-control machinery in its tracks. Last December, the State Department stopped issuing crypto export licenses. Hugh Daniel had applied for one; it came back marked "returned without action". We later found out, by comparing notes with other export applicants, that this was a general policy; they didn't want to risk enforcing an unconstitutional law. They never did resume. A few weeks later, the Commerce Department started issuing "EI" export licenses under new regulations. Now there's no other department to turn to. We haven't found a third law that lets them regulate crypto export or use. And Judge Patel mentioned in her decision that "the government cannot avoid the constitutional deficiencies of its regulations by rotating oversight of them from department to department". Though she decided that they had not deliberately evaded her previous ruling, she's warning them not to try it. The next few weeks should be very interesting. There's a mailing list for announcements in the case, as appeals are filed, final orders come out, any hearings are scheduled, etc. Send mail to <majordomo(a)toad.com> containing the line "subscribe bernstein-announce". These announcements will also automatically go to cypherpunks, but there are people who don't want the volume but do want to get the news. Let them know. Thanks to all the cypherpunks for your ongoing support and participation in the case! John

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Re: lack of evolution (So What!)
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Feanor <feanor(a)nym.alias.net> writes: > On Aug 25, 21:41, Ray Arachelian wrote: > } Subject: Re: lack of evolution (So What!) > > > > On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Peter Trei wrote: > > > > > One factor which everyone seems to be overlooking in this > > > thread is the future impact of biotechnology. > > > > <much stuff deleted> > > > > I see someone's been recently reading Beyond This Horizon by Heinlein. :) > > Sounded a lot more like Sterling/Crystal Express, the Shaper/Mechanist section, > to me. Actually, Vernor Vinge is a much bigger influence. Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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by user3847＠blue.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by jp＠mlmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Anybody with a Ricochet willing to Visit?
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is mostly directed at Bay Areans. Anybody with a Metricom Ricochet modem willing to stop by my place in Corralitos and help me determine if I can get some kind of coverage in my area? (Yes, I know about the coverage maps at www.metricom.com and such....the coverage is show extending as far down the coast as parts of Aptos, but ending before my area, which is about 7 miles, over a ridge, from Aptos. East of Santa Cruz.) At a recent party in Boulder Creek, I saw folks getting coverage by moving their laptops around, and BC is not on the official coverage map. So what I'd like to do is see if my area can actually get reasonable signal. I'll provide the beer.... (I may have another Cypherpunks party at my place in September or October, but I'm more leery now of issuing an open invitation than I have been in the past. A lot of odd people read the list. And I'd hate to have any Feds see the invitation and then show up....never know what they might see or hear at a party, or what gifts they might leave behind, like bugs or dope. So if I have another party, it may not be an "open to all who see the invitation" one, and may have to be limited to those I have actually met.) Meanwhile, I'm interested in Ricochet coverage in my area. Contact me if you have a Ricochet on your laptop and if you are interested in visiting. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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