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PGP/ViaCrypt
by John B. Fleming 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just obtained a copy of PGP 2.3a about 2-3 months ago and have been using it off and on. I just subscribed to this list a couple of days ago and have seen mentions of ViaCrypt PGP. I did a little research, and I now know what ViaCrypt PGP is. My question is, what are the details surrounding the licensed RSA technology in the two. I have gathered that Freeware PGP does NOT have a license, and ViaCrypt PGP does. ... Does this mean in any way that it is technically illegal to use Freeware PGP? Or does it even matter? Thanks John -- FLEMINGJ(a)WABASH.EDU -- (Please request PGP public key via e-mail)

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No Subject
by bbrown＠coos.dartmouth.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ok, I saw a blurb on the new about the the senate debating Clipper. The basics were stated. 1) The FBI wanted phone companies to be forced to comply. 2) Privacy advocates said it would be an invasion. Then they showed clips of terrorists and kidnappers who had been caught thanks to wiretapping. On the subject of home privacy. I am attempting to build a laser bug. The type that one bounces of a window. Does anyone know of the technology involved in such a project? I already have acess to a laser, but it is the photocell that I need more infomation on. Anyone? Artimage.

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Re: FWD: RIPEM/SIG - Worldwide Digital Signature Software
by mdbomber＠w6yx.stanford.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>-----BEGIN PRIVACY-ENHANCED MESSAGE----- >Proc-Type: 2001,MIC-CLEAR >Content-Domain: RFC822 >Originator-Name: jim(a)chirality.rsa.com >Originator-Certificate: > MIIB0TCCAXoCECnMhIY+nEfjCOoQ6zRCtbAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQECBQAwbTELMAkG > A1UEBhMCVVMxIDAeBgNVBAoTF1JTQSBEYXRhIFNlY3VyaXR5LCBJbmMuMRwwGgYD > [...] signed PEM message I tried turning RIPEM Mac loose on this message and it complains about a garbled Originator Certificate, then complains that it does not appear to be a PEM/RIPEM message. Did anyone else get this to work? Internet: mdbomber(a)w6yx.stanford.edu Matt Bartley GPS: 33 49' xx'' 117 48' xx'' (xx due to SA :-)

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ANNOUNCE: EXI Idea Forum this Sunday
by jpp＠markv.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The EXI Idea Forum is a series of informal get togethers where Extropians, and people interested in Extropianism, discuss interesting issues. This Idea Forum will concern Cryptography, Cypherpunks, and the Clipper chip. You are invited to attend. Here are the directions: The EXI Idea Form will be held at my new lodgings in Pacoima this Sunday 1994 March 20. The meeting will officialy start at 1600. Feel free to bring your favorite (non-alcoholic, yet legal) drinks, foods, nutrients, etc. I hope the directions below help you get to our location. If you need extra help for any reason, call (818) 768 9255 first, or (818) 767 5576 if you get no answer. (Sorry, if you are comming from the north, you will have to improvise a little) ------------------------------------------------------------ >From the west side of LA: North 405 == San Diego Fwy over the hill, into the valley, way past the 101, but just before the 118, take the Nordhoff exit, at the bottom of the ramp go East == Right Nordhoff until it T's into Osborne, go N-E == Left Osborne past two lights, Canterbury, and Beachy, S-E == Right Arleta past two traffic lights, Branford, and then Wentworth which has a killer dip, then at the first street on the left, N-E == Left Tonopah past the alley on the left, at the first street to the left, N-W == Left Lev to the end, the house is on the left side at about 10 o'clock were the street entering the court at 6 o'clock S-W == Left 8941 Lev ------------------------------------------------------------ >From the center of the city: North 101 == Hollywood Fwy over the hill, into the valley, North 170 == Hollywood Fwy just befor the end, where 170 merges with 5, right at the end of the ramp, S-W == Right Sheldon under the 170 Fwy, and then immediately N-W == Right Arleta past the first right which is the 170 South onramp, and at the first street on the right, N-E == Right Tonopah past the alley on the left, at the first street to the left, N-W == Left Lev to the end, the house is on the left side at about 10 o'clock were the street entering the court at 6 o'clock S-W == Left 8941 Lev ------------------------------------------------------------ >From the east side of LA: North 5 == Golden State Fwy over the hill, into the valley, just after the 170 merges into the 5, take the Sheldon exit, turn right and you will be on Laurel Canyon Blvd, S-E == Right Laurel Canyon Blvd (Sheldon Exit) follow the sign and turn right onto Sheldon S-W == Right Sheldon for about a mile, under the 170 Fwy, and then immediately, N-W == Right Arleta past the 170 South entrance to the right, at the first street on the right, N-E == Right Tonopah past the alley on the left, at the first street to the left, N-W == Left Lev to the end, the house is on the left side at about 10 o'clock were the street entering the court at 6 o'clock S-W == Left 8941 Lev j' -- O I am Jay Prime Positive jpp(a)markv.com 1250 bit fingerprint B06229 = B8 95 E0 AF 9A A2 CD A5 89 C9 F0 FE B4 3A 2C 3F 524 bit fingerprint 2A915D = 8A 7C B9 F2 D5 46 4D ED 66 23 F1 71 DE FF 51 48 Public keys via `finger jpp(a)markv.com', or via email to pgp-public-keys(a)io.com Your feedback is welcome directly or via my symbol JPP on hex(a)sea.east.sun.com Resist the Clipper Chip, write "I oppose Clipper" to Clipper.petition(a)cpsr.org

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Administrivia: Questions about the List
by tcmay＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cypherdenizens, Sorry to bother the List, but two things have come up that I need some feedback on. Two items: 1. Is the list sending out messages in a defective (slow) way, or is my service (Netcom) bouncing a lot of mail, thus causing these delays as toad attempts resends? 2. I'm getting a lot of error messages from Julf's site, saying my messages cannot be delivered to "an2757938" and the like. This used to be a problem, but was fixed by Eric Hughes a year or so ago. It appears to be back again. Are others seeing this, too? First, I seem to be having delays in Cypherpunks mail of about 1-2 days on about 5-10% of all messages. This shows up as me not seeing messages others are already responding to (because 90-95% of all messages are getting to me in the usual prompt way). I especially notice this, of course, with my own messages. (I can't test whether other mail is being delayed, because I'm no longer on Extropians and so Cypherpunks accounts for 95% of all my mail.) For example, the item on video surveillance cameras, forwarded from alt.conspiracy, did not not reach me until a day after others had already posted public responses. And just today I got a 5-day old message (Steve Bellovin's "Re: Clipper Cracks Appear"). The message I posted today about "Shout it to the world: Clipper is Compromised!" has still not appeared at my site, although some others have already responded to me about it (ironically, Steve Bellovin did). My question is this: Is this just _me_ (and possibly Netcom), or are others seeing these delays? My suspicion has been that Netcom is bouncing mail, because of recent overloading and NFS problems, reports from other about their mail being delayed (usually this implies a bounce and resend), and from the lack of other messages here complaining about delayed messages. Could Hugh Daniel, if he is reading this, or Eric Hughes, or anyone else who has access to the list at toad.com give me some hint as to whether I should beat on Netcom some more? Could other Netcommers here, of which there may be as many as 50, tell me what experiences they've had? The second item is also an administrivia issue: I'm getting dozens of error messages from daemon(a)penet.finland.etc. or somesuch (I can't look right now at the precise address) telling me my mail cannot be delivered, will not be delivered, is being returned, etc. It looks like the old blocks Eric had installed to prevent Julf's system from doing this are no longer working. (There may be more accurate explanations....) Anyone else seeing this? Anything we can do? Does the new automated subscription software (majordomo?) have anything to do with this? If people send me comments, I'll summarize--unless someone really knows the Big Picture and wants to just summarize it all here. Thanks, --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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VIACRYPT/PGP Listservers
by tontine key llc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Are there any LISTS that are devoted to developing expertise in the use of the various forms of PGP being peddled by VIACRYPT et al. It would be a boon to us "NEWBIES" and the cause of "Crypto Publicos" if such a forum was available which provided some handholding on the minutia of using the software. Any ideas?

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: A Certain Monk at a certain village in Hanoi I thought I'd share this with you: -----------CUT HERE------------- program Hanoi(input,output); type Pegnumber = 1..3; var N: integer; Procedure WriteMoves (N: integer; Peg1, Peg2, Peg3: PegNumber); begin {Moves} if N=1 then writeln('Move a ring from ', Peg1:1, ' to ', Peg2:1) else begin {else} WriteMoves(N-1, Peg1, Peg3, Peg2); writeln('Move a ring from ', Peg 1:1, ' to ', Peg2:1); WriteMoves(N-1, Peg3, Peg2, Peg1) end {else} end; {Moves} begin {Program} writeln{'Enter the number of rings and'); writeln('I''ll explain how to play Towers of Hanoi.'); readln(N); writeln (' To move ', M,' rings'); writeln (' from peg 1 to peg 2 proceed as follows:'); WriteMoves(N, 1, 2, 3); writeln (' That does it.') end. {Program} ------------AND HERE----------- I've used it on 64 rings, and it works fine. Of course this runs slowly and does tend to use a lot of storage. The stack really grows too large. I'm hoping that it may be possible to use this type of call with some bandwidth growth to help defeat analysis. "Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?" "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to." said the Cat. --Lewis Carroll

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RE: How to control Internet? Buy it!
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm having a nightmare about a Microsoft-like domination of global communications, complete with SPA police, etc. ................................. Unlike the government, Microsoft and McCaw Cellular both depend upon a customer-driven market for their acceptance. They must convince their customers that they are better than the competition in providing a similar service; they must adjust this service to the customer's requests & preferences or lose the account. Blanc

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PGP BBS site
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Need to refer someone (US citizen, currently in the US) to a BBS that is carrying the current PGP. Any pointers? He's in Edgewater FL, but is willing to call LD to get it. No net access. Thanks.

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Two more anon.penet.fi bounces
by Jason Zions 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Messages Return-Path: daemon(a)anon.penet.fi Return-Path: <daemon(a)anon.penet.fi> Received: from hal.com (hal-backbone) by latte.hal.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.2) id AA14635; Fri, 18 Mar 94 21:18:38 CST Received: from anon.penet.fi by hal.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA26106; Fri, 18 Mar 94 19:16:47 PST Received: by anon.penet.fi (5.67/1.35) id AA00125; Sat, 19 Mar 94 04:14:49 +0200 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 04:14:49 +0200 From: daemon(a)anon.penet.fi Message-Id: <9403190214.AA00125(a)anon.penet.fi> To: jazz(a)hal.com Subject: Anonymous service rejected your mail. You, jazz(a)hal.com, have requested mail forwarding to na69591. This was rejected, as the user is unknown. Either the id has never been allocated, or the id has been removed at the request of the user. ------- End of Forwarded Messages

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