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by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steve Schear wrote: > >Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> wrote: > It may be somewhat self-serving but in light of the past few hundred years > history, few (except Italians) would see the founding of Rome as > significant as the invention of democracy. History is relative. I see neither or the these as being of as great a significance as the first time I got laid. > >or so, the death of that Jesus guy > >was a minor event (the real event was the rise of the Church, in Rome, > >during the next few centuries, > > I think you'd get some major disagreements with that one. No. No one disagrees with that one. > Many historians do not see Constantine's empire as truly the continuation > of the Roman Empire per se, but that of the church (an event which as you > point out began with Jesus). The church began with the invention of money. The papacy began with the invention of bingo. The reformation was begun by sore losers who never won anything at bingo. Jewry began with a jeweller who had agraphia. (1) (1) "I Know About All That Old Shit" by the History Guy HistoryMonger

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Re: Information
by scuttle＠alias.cyberpass.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:00 PM 9/1/97 EDT, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote... >Dave K-P <k.p(a)snet.net> writes: > >> > > > Information, please! >> > > Dont go swimming on a full stomach. >> > Don't "escrow" your keys. >> Don't take advice from strangers. >Don't ask, don't tell. Don't eat yellow snow.

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You really do want to volunteer, don't you?
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Item: Getting a transponder or bar-coded "EZ Pass" for your vehicle is completely voluntary....but if you don't have one of these transponders or passes, you'll have to go to the "manual" lane...Oh, and it seems that due to budget cutbacks we're short on staff and so you'll have to wait a while...maybe _quite_ a while. (Plus, while you're waiting maybe we'll just snap a photo of your license plate anyway, as you might be a terrorist or Mann Act felon trying to evade our surveillance....) Item: The U.S. is proud to call its tax system "voluntary," in terms of what citizens report. (The voluntary term was never that participation was voluntary, only that a tax collector did not show up in person and decide what a person owed.) However, to ensure compliance with the voluntary part, citizen-units will find that their bank narcs them out to FinCEN and IRS, and that electronic intercepts of financial dealings are common, and that "compliance audits" are far more draconian than ordinary citizen-units imagine. Item: Key recovery is purely voluntary. Unless you try to communicate with foreigners. Unless you are involved in any communications with drug dealers, money launderers, terrorists, child pornographers, or any other Horsemen. (Wouldn't you really rather play it safe and use the Government Approved Krypto?) Item (in the Very Near Future): "But, Mr. and Mrs. Zludnick, the ChildFinder (TM) implant is painless and quick. Based on the technology used to find lost pets, ChildFinder (TM) allows authorities in public places to scan for kidnapped or lost children. Surely you'd want your daughter to have access to this technology? While completely voluntary--after all, Mr. Zludnick, we are still a democracy, aren't we?--you should be aware that the school nurse will be most unhappy if your children are not ChildFinder-compatible. Not to mention the teachers who count on using RollTaker (TM) to automatically take the roll of students. And your children will have to take tests in special rooms, and checked for evidence of identity spoofing. All in all, Mr. and Mrs. Zludnick, I think you can see the problems. Why, in a sense, it would be a kind of child abuse, don't you think, to make your little Johnny and Suzy such oddities in the class. I'm sure you wouldn't Child Protective Services to make one of their "visits," would you? They're oh-so-thorough in uncovering signs of an unwholesome home environment. And then where would you be? So, can I assume you'll be volunteering?" What we are seeing is an Orwellian abuse of the English language. Programs are introduced as "voluntary" ones, but the alternatives are either deliberately made time-consuming and annoying, or the alternatives are just dropped completely. (I'm not talking about what private individuals or companies ask for. Alice's Restaurant is free to require patrons to wear silly hats, as it is their property. What I'm confining my comments to is the "mandatory voluntary" nature of more and more government programs.) The airline bag confirmation system is an in-between situation. It is partly a security matter to require bags be correlated with actual flying passengers...cuts down on bombs sent in bags. But it is also a surveillance/tracking issue, and the airlines are playing the tune the government calls for. (Else why would airlines not accept passengers who a) in fact board the plane, and b) pay in cash for their tickets? It used to be this way. No more. Now they demand a True Name, regardless of how easy it is to buy phony documents. If I can buy a phony set, or can even make up my own, imagine what actual terrorists can do.) And there's the whole issue of Social Security Cards. My card, issued in 1969, says it's not be used for any purposes except SS and income tax matters. Tell that to the many agencies, public and corporate, demanding it. The point? Our privacy is being "escrowed." The automobile transponders and barcoded vehicle passes are touted as voluntary, but they really are not. Chaumian, identity-protecting technologies need to be deployed. Frankly, I think Cypherpunks are getting off track with all the recent focus on "old" technologies (which I'll leave unspecified, as my point is not to attack certain pet projects). The real stuff is going undone. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: You really do want to volunteer, don't you?
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:12 AM -0700 9/2/97, Greg Broiles wrote: >At 11:38 PM 9/1/97 -0700, Tim May wrote: >>This was an actual case, heard by the Supreme Court several years back. Bus >>passengers were given the opportunity to volunteer, as noted. Failure to >>volunteer was construed as probable cause that contraband was present. >> >>(No, I don't know the name of the case. My recollection is that it took >>place in Florida or one of the Carolinas. Nor do I recollect how the >>Supremes decided the case... > >This sounds like _Florida v. Bostick_, 501 U.S. 429 (1991), on the web at ><http://www.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&navby=case&vol=501&invol >=429>. > >Bill Stewart's summary of the case looked like a good one to me. Thanks, I guess, to all of you who sent further information on this case. I'm chagrinned at this repetitive pattern, though: all it takes is a "I don't remember" for a thread to be completely dominated by helpful comments, clarifications, etc. (Ditto for any question even remotely impinging on financial or tax advice, which is why I almost always include requests that helpful tax advice not be sent to me. I can't seem to mention tax issues without a bunch of helpful souls sending me their ideas on how to beat taxes by incorporating myself in Andorra and then hiring myself as a consultant to the Andorran embassy in California, or whatever.) One strategy I've considered is to never, never, ever admit that I don't know something, as this will forestall the corrections, expansions, clarifications, and citings. Or to express things more elliptically. It pays to be Young. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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NSA/NIST Security Lab
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

NSA and NIST will set up a new lab for evaluation of information-security products, including crypto algorithms: http://jya.com/nsa-nist.txt The lab will coordinate with other nations. Plans include eventual shifting the evaluation to private testing labs once accreditation standards are set. With critiques by Bruce Schneier and Steve Walker, and a slap from NCSA, which now provides testing, "They've been talking about this stuff for years."

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New Candidates for Vengeance
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lest people think it is only government stooges who burst into rooms and spray the occupants with bullets, here's a story about bounty hunters doing the same thing. Not the first time, either. Bounty hunters usually work for bail bondsmen, seeking to produce their witnesses. What has surprised me, in some reports I've seen recently on how they work and what their legal authority to enter homes is, is that they are apparently free to enter hotel rooms and private homes at will. One legal expert opined that a homeowner who shoots at them upon their entry is committing a crime, as they are not legally a threat. (Of course, how does a homeowner know this?) Here's an excerpt from the story: --- Tuesday September 2 2:50 PM EDT Police Pursue Arizona Bounty Hunters By David Schwartz PHOENIX(Reuter) - An intense manhunt was under way Tuesday for two bounty hunters who allegedly broke into the wrong house in a commando-style raid looking for a bail-jumper and shot and killed a young couple. Police said two men were in custody and another was under police guard in a hospital after the ski-masked group broke down the front door of the house, held young children at gunpoint and exchanged fire with the couple early Sunday. The bounty hunters apparently were looking for a bail jumper who owed a bond company $25,000, police said. Killed in the shoot-out were Christopher Foote, 23, and Spring Wright, his 21-year-old girlfriend. Their bedroom was riddled with at least 29 bullet holes. -- Seems to me we need a system which executes these several folks. AP is inefficient, but might work. People call me cold-blooded, calling for the death of tyrants, stooges, narcs, and other rifraff. But how can anyone read this story and not realize such scum need to be given a very quick trial and then disposed of? (This, by the way, is one reason folks should have guns in hotel rooms. Some hotels have policies against guns, but this applies only if one is found. And it's usually not a criminal violation, if the local gun laws allow shopkeepers and homeowners/renters to have guns (a few places don't, as we all know). A hotel room is one's temporary residence, as a tent in a campground is.) --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Cdn-Firearms Digest V1 #974
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excerpt from Canadian Firearms Digest V1 #974 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:08:33 -0600 From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest(a)sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca To: cdn-firearms-digest(a)broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V1 #974 Reply-to: cdn-firearms-digest(a)sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 20:25:42 -0600 From: "GoPlayer Kootenay" <Kootenay(a)goplay.com> Subject: Is Our Government a Legitimate One? This is really just the beginning of what I hope will turn into true multi-logue among not only the RFC, but the Canadian people: What makes a government, at any level, "legitimate"? Is it a line or two in some Statute Book or Constitution, or is it the Continued Assent of The People That Are Governed? I think it's the second choice; our current government at the Canadian federal level thinks it's the first choice. It IS "against the law" to advocate, or to attempt, the ousting of the Canadian government by any method except by the process of voting. These laws were framed in a day when the ideals of Democracy were held high by Government, and the rights of the individual were of the order that the Libertarian movement advocate today. Government RESPECTED the wishes of the people, and generally didn't try to do any propaganda to mould public opinion (except in time of war against the common foe). In turn, the People respected their Government(s) and their laws and statutes, because their elected representatives truly strove to REPRESENT their constituents, and their concerns. Prime Ministers did not beat up on MPs that spoke their minds in favour of the folks "back home" in the Riding. Members of Parliament and Legislatures were honour-bound to resign at the first hint of involvement in Scandal. Times have changed. The Canadian People no longer respect their government, by and large. They do not believe that their elected representatives are much better than confidence-men. Canadians know that MP's and Members of Legislatures will follow what the Party Leader and his Cabinet decree. Ministers and Members no longer think of Scandal as something repugnant to Honour -- just as a temporary embarrassment. Their Leaders rarely pressure them to resign. Democracy is a mere shell of what it once was. Justice peeks through her blindfold when it suits her. Canadian Government has lost its legitimacy. It no longer has the True Assent of the People; it keeps its power by increasing its level of visible intimidation of the People, relying on Rule-by-Statute and Orders-In-Council. Canadians increasingly are afraid of their Government. And the Government knows that. In turn, the Government is increasingly estranged from the People, and passes Laws to coerce "desired behaviour", rather than Good Law that is a REFLECTION of the Peoples' morals and standards. I'm sure most of you have noticed the steep rise in the use of SWAT units to attend incidents where conventional uniformed police officers would have been the norm a decade ago. I'm certain that you have noticed an increasing lack-of-regard by the police for the rights of the Public. I know that most of you are aware that the police are tending to over-react in many clearly non-threatening situations -- take the Chilliwack BB gun incident, for example. And our police do what they are told by their bosses. Just like good little Germans did what they were told by their bosses not so long ago. Good little Canadians are becoming "good little Germans". Only the uniforms are different. When the Russians had had enough of their pre-1917 totalitarian royalist regime, they backed an equally-repressive revolutionary Communist regime. It took them over 70 years to dump that one. People will always opt for a "change", when they are pushed far enough. Bills C-17 and C-68 are just two examples of the Canadian government's thinking, "Perhaps the People *have* been pushed nearer the breaking point". It's food for careful thought. And speech. Shhhhh! - ------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Information
by Joe Spainhour 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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t0902mt01.html
by Damaged Justice 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[1][LINK] Calgary Herald BUSINESS _________________________________________________________________ Managing Your Money [2]Stock and Mutual Fund Quotes [3]Your Investments [4]Family Finance [5]Columns [6]Technology [7]Stock News [8]Search --> [9][LINK] [10]Calgary Herald Online Home Page [Main Menu............] __ Press group refuses to join Internet rating scheme Amy Harmon The Ottawa Citizen A group of major news organizations took the digital high road last week. The group members -- which include Time, CNN, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Associated Press -- said they would allow their online editions to be rendered invisible to some Internet users rather than conform to a rating system that screens material dealing with sex or violence. "We support open access to information on the Internet," the group said in a statement. "And we will not rate our sites." That such a proclamation would be necessary, that it would be hashed out in a tense meeting that was closed -- oddly, given its agenda -- to reporters and that it would be considered an important step forward by many of the executives participating is itself a commentary on the uncertain state of the free press on the Internet. But the electronic news publishers left unresolved the more baffling question of how to wedge such a seemingly routine commitment to the U.S. constitution's free-speech guarantees into the architecture of cyberspace and the cultural politics of the United States in the late 1990s. The bind that Internet news providers find themselves in began with the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling earlier this summer that the Communications Decency Act was unconstitutional. The court found that the law, which banned the transmission of indecent material to minors over computer networks, was an overly broad restriction on speech -- in part because existing technology would allow parents to control their children's access to such material. Eager to head off regulation, the online industry expressed enthusiasm for various rating systems at a meeting convened by the Clinton administration after the decision. Microsoft and Netscape, which together control the market for the browsers used to navigate the World Wide Web, agreed to incorporate a standard for ratings in the next release of their software. Theoretically, the standard (known awkwardly as the Platform for Internet Content Selection, or PICS) would allow any entity from Good Housekeeping to the Spice Girls to create a rating system. The browser would recognize all of them, and parents could choose the one that best fit their world view, or at least the lens they wanted their children to see through. But so far, the only major group to use PICS has essentially adapted to the Web a rating system designed for video games. Under the Recreational Software Advisory Council system, sites rate themselves on a scale of one to four for nudity, sex, violence and offensive language. The council, a non-profit association of entertainment and computer companies, performs random checks to make sure sites are representing themselves correctly. Parents can set the level of each category that they wish to screen for, and, significantly, unrated sites are blocked out. So far, about 40,000 of the Web's nearly one million sites have used the system. News sites, however, have for the most part found the ratings either inapplicable or abhorrent. "The rating of content, particularly in the area of violence -- to tell people whether they should or shouldn't read about war in Bosnia -- takes news and turns it into a form of entertainment," said Daniel Okrent, editor of new media at Time. It is perhaps not surprising that an entertainment-based rating system would be incapable of describing the vast quantities and qualities of information on the Internet. Religious organizations and government agencies are also reportedly unhappy with the Recreational Software Advisory Council's limitations. But the problem is more than just a given rating system. It is inherent in the technology -- or at least the purpose it is being used to achieve. Because to screen out certain material, like sexual images, every site has to be labelled in some fashion. "In the real world, you don't know what you're going to get before you get it," said Paul Resnick, one of the creators of PICS. "We're trying to create an online world where you do know what you're going to get, and once you set that as your priority, you have to start classifying things." To accommodate the concerns of news sites, the Recreational Software Advisory Council has proposed a "news" label that would rate by category, not by content. But that raises the question of how and who would define which sites would bear the designation. The ratings group had appealed to the Internet Content Coalition, a loose alliance of online news organizations that organized last week's meeting, to serve as a monitoring body. The idea was denounced by several attendees, but they did not offer a better one. _________________________________________________________________ We welcome your suggestions; send e-mail to [11]online(a)theherald.southam.ca This web site is a supplement to the Calgary Herald, a daily newspaper published in [12]Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Contents copyright 1996. [ [13]Calgary Herald Home Page ] References 1. http://ads.galaxy.southam.com/OAS/rm/try-it.cgi/www.ch.com/b-mm-m-1.htm 2. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald/cgi/finance/stocks&funds/overview.pl?p… 3. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald/cgi/newsnow.pl?nkey=ch&file=/business/… 4. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald/cgi/newsnow.pl?nkey=ch&file=/business/… 5. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald/cgi/newsnow.pl?nkey=ch&file=/business/… 6. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald/cgi/newsnow.pl?nkey=ch&file=/business/… 7. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald/cgi/newsnow.pl?nkey=ch&file=/business/… 8. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald/cgi/newsnow.pl?nkey=ch&file=/business/… 9. http://ads.galaxy.southam.com/OAS/rm/try-it.cgi/www.ch.com/b-mm-b-1.htm 10. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald 11. mailto:online@theherald.southam.ca 12. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald/almanac/almanac.html 13. http://www.southam.com/calgaryherald

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$50,000 IN 30 days, guaranteed!
by biz4uin97＠compuserve.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report to everyone you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 50,000...and your name will be on everyone of them! Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! You will definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU $$$$$ Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out only 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a 0.5% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a 0.5% response, that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. Out of those 0.5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. The 0.5% response to that is 1,000 orders for REPORT #3. Those 1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The 0.5% response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That's 10,000 $5 bills for you. CASH!!! Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5,000 + $50,000 for a total of $55,550!!! REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE, OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this is practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet connection and e-mail is FREE!!! REPORT #3 will show you the best methods for bulk e-mailing and obtaining e-mail lists. INSTRUCTIONS: We at Erris Mail Order Marketing Businesses, have a method of raising capital that REALLY WORKS 100% EVERYTIME. I am sure that you could use $50,000 to $125,000 in the next 20-90 days. Before you say "BULL... ", please read this program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what you do: As with all multi-level business, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in the USA allows you to recruit new multi-level business partners, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME AND ARE FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: Step (1) Order all four (4) REPORTS listed by NAME AND NUMBER. Do this by ordering the REPORT from each of the four (4) names listed on the next page. For each REPORT, send $5 CASH and a SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED envelope (BUSINESS SIZE #10) to the person listed for the SPECIFIC REPORT. International orders should also include $1 extra for postage. It is essential that you specify the NAME and NUMBER of the REPORT requested to the person you are ordering it from. You will need ALL FOUR (4) REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence other than what the instructions say. IMPORTANT: Always provide same-day service on all orders. Step (2) Replace the name and address under REPORT #1 with your's, moving the one that was there down to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under REPORT #2 TO REPORT #3, moving the one that was there to REPORT #4. The name and the address that was under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list and this party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When doing this, make certain you type the names and addresses ACCURATELY!!! DO NOT MIX UP MOVING PRODUCT/REPORT POSITIONS!!! Step (3) Having made the requested changes in the NAME list, save it as text (.txt) file in it's own directory to be used with whatever e-mail program you like. Again, REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of bulk e-mailing and acquiring e-mail lists. Step (4) E-mail a copy of the entire program (all of this is very important) to everyone whose address you can get your hands on. Start with friends and relatives since you can encourage them to take advantage of this fabulous money-making opportunity. That's what I did. And they love me now, more than ever. Then, e-mail to anyone and everyone! Use your imagination! You can get e-mail addresses from companies on the internet who specialize in e-mail mailing lists. These are very cheap, 100,000 addresses for around $35. IMPORTANT: You won't get a good response if you use an old list, so always request a FRESH, NEW list. You will find out where to purchase these lists when you order the four (4) REPORTS. ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS: ***Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME AND NUMBER. ____________________________________________________ REPORT #1 "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: Liberty Publishing Inc. 2107 W. Commonwealth Ave. Dept.264 Alhambra, CA 91803 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #2 "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: SOM Co. 2168 S. Atlantic Blvd. #101 Monterey Park, CA 91754 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #3 "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: Kal Inc. P.O. Box 2433 Glenview, IL. 60025-2433 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: HENDON ENTERPRISES P.O. Box #188 Seguin, TX. 78156 ____________________________________________________ CONCLUSION: I am enjoying my fortune that I made by sending out this program. You too, will be making money in 20-90 days, if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation. No longer will a lack of money hold you back. However, very few people reach financial independence, because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES", and this the question that you must answer. Will YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do nothing, you have indeed missed something and nothing will change. Please re-read this material, this is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that cost me pennies to produce and e-mail. I should also point out that this program is LEGAL and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or a pyramid scam. At times you probably received chain letters, asking you to send money, on faith, but getting NOTHING in return, NO product what-so-ever! Not only are chain lettters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they purchase the product from you, they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four (4) FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost of about 3 cents a copy. 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