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crypto cd once more
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Thu Oct 03 08:19:15 1996 Does anyone know about interoperability of cd-rom filesystems? Questions are: 1) is there a system that can handle unix, windows and mac filenames (long ones!)? 2) if not, is zip-support given on mac and unix systems? 3) does anyone have suggestions on how to deal with the problem? See yall, remo pini - ------< fate favors the prepared mind >------ Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html - ----< words are what reality is made of >---- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html iQEVAwUBMlNa5BFhy5sz+bTpAQGHNAgAoW00xM24bxwb1THRA9AjzzNHY12TBo/m CUz5+l0gDHxNi3+r+ys4QS1lrcj13BN0Xl71wHMjGvYnM86z+nB0loX8WIHep8h2 2M0PLOSGUdiJi8Ga+iB0LbzESBZWAokBF99ChXWVrtd6DBizfwBsPxNzENly1ZI3 2/gly09Z7L8HCa+PYpPI1S5IRqJqp14MDOFbCxLc3Nf5b9Pufp+GQPoxPp9o21nI rYOAoK7ylKhCcZoPEC3asFL7y/uLyDWS8J8ypLC3d84Op9jQ1DJGPpRSk1Z2oEWQ /FuKTC1tzyH8bGEDXX35rhlyudHqH2Se6shjq3l8CiM2S7pJMHqJzA== =qU3O -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Net-freedom roundup: Algiers, Malaysia, Burma, Hong Kong...
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:59:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Net-freedom roundup: Algiers, Malaysia, Burma, Hong Kong... [Update on situations in Algiers, Malaysia, Burma, Singapore, European Union, U.K., Hong Kong, China, and Germany. More at http://www.eff.org/~declan/global/ --Declan] ******** SUSPENDED ALGERIAN DAILY OFFERED INTERNET PAGE Copyright 1996 Reuter Information Service PARIS (Sep 30, 1996 1:24 p.m. EDT) - A press freedom watchdog on Monday offered the suspended Algerian daily La Tribune a page on its Internet site to give it an airing during the six-month ban. "Thanks to this initiative, these journalists, banned from writing by the Algerian authorities, will be able to practice their trade again," the Paris-based Reporters without Borders (RsF) said. An Algiers court suspended La Tribune for six months on September 3 over a cartoon mocking the Algerian flag. [...] Fifty-seven journalists have been murdered by suspected rebels. RsF said authorities had suspended or seized newspapers on 55 occasions and 23 journalists had been held for more than 48 hours since the conflict broke out over the 1992 cancellation of a general election fundamentalists were poised to win. ******** UNITED NATIONS, Sept 27 (Reuter) - Malaysia's prime minister accused the West on Friday of spreading smut and violence, particularly on the Internet. In his speech to the U.N. General Assembly, Mahathir bin Mohamad said that although the information age facilitated worldwide knowledge, it also demeaned moral values. ``Smut and violence gratuitously distributed by criminals in the North is no less polluting than carbon dioxide emissions nor less dangerous than drug trafficking.'' In a reference to the United States he said if one great power could apply its laws to citizens of another country for drug trafficking ``why cannot countries with different moral codes extradite the traffickers of pornography for legal action?'' ``Before the whole world sinks deeper into moral decay, the international community should act. Abuse of the ubiquitous Internet system must be stopped,'' he said. Politically, he said the monopoly of the West's electronic media should be broken on so-called world news networks. ``Not only are distorted pictures of our countries being broadcast but our own capacity to understand what is happening is being undermined,'' he said. [...] ``It is boring almost. And yet nothing much has been done which could bring about amelioration of this sad state of affairs, `` he said. ********* RANGOON, BURMA, 1996 SEP 27 (NB) -- Burma has made owning, using, importing or borrowing a modem or fax machine without government permission a crime, punishable by up to 15 years in jail, according to a report by United Press International. Burma's military government has imposed what's called "The Computer Science Development Law" which empowers the Ministry of Communications, Posts and Telegraphs to specify what exactly can be restricted, UPI reports. UPI quotes the government-run newspaper New Light of Myanmar as saying the same punishment is prescribed for anyone who sets up a link with a computer network without the prior permission of the ministry, or who uses computer network and information technology "for undermining state security, law and order, national unity, national economy and national culture, or who obtains or transmits state secrets." UPI reports that in July a diplomat, Leo Nichols, died in prison after he was sentenced to a lengthy term for illegal possession of fax machines. *********** SINGAPORE, Sept. 28 (UPI) -- Internet users in Singapore are complaining that a new system to police the massive global communications network is slowing down access to websites rather than speeding it up as promised by government officials, news reports said Saturday. Earlier this month, special computers called proxy servers began censoring all requests for websites from Singapore Internet users, blocking access to those deemed ``objectionable'' by the government. The proxy servers, which began regulating cyperspace Sept. 15, delay access to the Internet because they first have to check a list of banned websites before retrieving requested homepages, the Straits Times reported. ``I've found that it can take twice as long to access the sites I commonly access,'' said Teo Mei Chin, a 22-year-old undergraduate. Users pointed out that slower access translated into longer on-line time and higher telephone bills. Although many Internet subscribers in the tightly-controlled city- state anticipated such delays under the new system, the Singapore Broadcasting Authority assured users access to certain websites would actually be quicker since the proxy servers are able to store frequently requested homepages. But Internet users say the filter computers also are dishing up outdated homepages. Walter Wu, who uses the Internet for up-to-date stock market and business data, said some financial websites he requested were at least a day old. [...] *********** LONDON, ENGLAND, 1996 SEP 27 (NB) -- By Steve Gold. The British government has added its support to plans to handle the problem of child pornography on the Internet. The proposals, which have been drawn up by the Home Office with assistance from Peter Dawe, the founder of Pipex, the UK's largest Internet service provider (ISP), are known as Safety Net. According to Dawe, recent discussions in the industry, culminating in a letter from the police to the various ISPs in the UK, has meant there is considerable pressure on the ISP industry to exercise a degree of self-regulation. "Public opinion said that something had to be done. I came to the conclusion that it was going to be impossible to establish industry- wide consensus on how to tackle this issue," he said, adding that the idea of Safety Net is gathering support in the UK ISP community. According to Dawe, Safety Net has the backing of the Internet Service Provider's Association (ISPA), as well as the London Internet Exchange, two groups which claim to represent most of the ISPs currently operating in the UK. [...] Quite how the ISPs will tackle the problem, such as blocking access to those Web pages, remains to be seen, but Dawes claims that the ISPs will have no excuse in law of being unaware of offending Web pages and Usenet newsgroups. [...] ********** BRUSSELS (Reuter) - European Union telecommunications ministers, reacting to a child-sex scandal in Belgium, pledged Friday to consider ways to keep illegal material that could harm children off the Internet. Belgian Telecommunications Minister Elio Di Rupo announced that his government planned to implement new measures requiring Internet access providers to monitor and report material featuring sexual abuse or exploitation of children. He asked his colleagues to join forces with him. ``Today a big legal vacuum exists, for legislation is falling behind technological evolution,'' he said, according to a speaking note that was distributed to reporters. ``There is a big risk that it will create an enormous market of children fed on by criminals.'' The ministers agreed to expand a working party that has already been set up to look at the question of illegal material on the Internet and asked it to come up with concrete proposals before they meet again in November. The group will include representatives of the 15 EU telecoms ministries and of companies that provide access to online services or prepare the content, a statement adopted by the ministers said. The accord follows an agreement by EU justice ministers in Dublin Thursday to extend the scope of the EU police agency Europol so it can fight the sex trade in women and children. The moves come in the wake of the discovery in Belgium of a paedophile network and the murders of four young girls. But some of the telecoms ministers, including those from Britain and Sweden, warned that the EU could not wander into censorship and had to focus on fighting truly illegal material. [...] ******** CENTRAL, HONG KONG, 1996 SEP 26 (NB) -- By Eric Lai. A Hong Kong Internet enthusiast is claiming that his Web site, featuring sexually suggestive photos of himself, was forcibly removed by his Internet service provider (ISP) two days ago in a seeming act of premature censorship. Donald Tu, 32, is a former radio and TV presenter and aspiring bodybuilder and model. In May, he put up his Web site, http://members/hknet.com/~hkstud/ , which featured photos of himself topless, often wearing nothing more than wet, slightly transparent briefs, posing in a studio and outdoors at scenic locations around Hong Kong. Tu, who was interviewed on last night's premiere of the Dataphile On-Air radio show, says his site has received thousands of "hits" coupled with encouraging e-mail, especially after a local Chinese language newspaper on September 17 reviewed his Web site. But a single complaint outweighs those thousands of positive comments, at least according to his Web host, HKNet. After receiving a single complaint from a member of the public, HKNet wrote to Tu on Tuesday that "the government may take action against the site because of its content and 'exposure,' based on the letter of the law governing obscene and indecent materials, and recent experiences in its enforcement. Therefore, we have made the decision to bar access to the questionable materials for the time being." But ISPs which censor and regulate content are not currently being compelled by the government, according to a spokesperson at the Broadcasting, Culture, and Sport Branch. The Branch has been devising Internet content regulations all summer which should be announced soon. [...] ********* BEIJING, Sept 27 (Reuter) - China's Communist Party chief Jiang Zemin moved on Friday to tighten the communists' grip on the state media and to strengthen his position with a blaze of publicity before a party plenum. He used a visit to the Beijing offices of the People's Daily, the party mouthpiece, to deliver a hardline speech on the importance of maintaining communist control of all media, the newspaper reported, splashing the news and three photographs of Jiang across its front page. Diplomats said the speech by Jiang was aimed at bringing back into line Chinese writers and more daring media organisations that have tried to push the limits of propaganda [...] ``Historical experience has proved repeatedly that whether guidance of news is right or wrong has to do with the party growing strong ... the solidarity of the people and the prosperity of the nation,'' Jiang said. [...] ******** HotWired 27-29 Sept 96 The Netizen by Wendy Grossman London, 26 September Last Monday, a unified front of British police, government, and representatives of leading ISPs announced proposals for cracking down on illegal material available on the UK's portion of the Internet. The first target is child pornography, but the protagonists have already said they've set their sights on other types of illegal material such as copyright violations, obscenity, and possibly hate speech. Called R3/Safety-Net, the proposals were presented to the media by Science and Technology Minister Ian Taylor and representatives from the Internet Service Providers' Association (ISPA), the London Internet Exchange (LINX), and the Home Office, which is the government department charged with law enforcement. [...] As it turns out, Demon and the Department of Trade and Industry had been talking without publicity for months about taking action against obscenity on the Net. But the media raised the pressure, as did complaints on uk.censorship about a list of 133 newsgroups that Superintendent Mike Hoskins of the Clubs and Vice unit of the Metropolitan Police had sent ISPs as a guide to the location of illegal material. Hoskins and the ISPs all swear no threat was intended or taken, but the underlying tone was still: You do something about it, or we'll do something about it. R3/Safety-Net is that something. [...] No one is going to oppose these measures. How can they, when the 1994 revision of the Criminal Justice Bill allows the police to arrest, without warrant, people suspected of obscenity and certain child pornography offenses? Child pornography is, of course, illegal to create, distribute, or possess in Britain. For the purposes of the Obscene Publications Act and the Protection of Children Act, if something looks like a child in a sexual act, it is child pornography. [...] So it seemed like with Monday's announcement, everybody wins - almost. The government gets to look like it's doing something big. The ISPs get to stay out of jail. The police get to arrest people. Peter Dawe gets to be a hero. Britain gets to be a world leader. And we get ... well, what do we get? We get the certain knowledge that they will not stop here. They have already said so. Books like the Anarchist's Cookbook are banned here in print, and in a country where last Monday police seized a massive haul of IRA explosives intended to rearrange the landscape, the argument for letting people read alt.engr.explosives is likely to lead to the withdrawal of reference books from the public libraries. Britain has an Official Secrets Act, not a Freedom of Information Act. Government can proceed only with the consent of the governed, and on Monday what that unified panel asked for was our trust. They will not censor free speech; it's just the small percentage of illegal stuff they want cleaned up. So we're left asking before every move, "Daddy, is this illegal?" ********** Subject: Germany Bans Web Pages for Minors - and ALL To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:37:52 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: um(a)c2.net (Ulf Moeller) Organization: private site, Hamburg (Germany) From: um(a)c2.net (Ulf Moeller) The report is essentially correct. In Hamburg, the prosecutors decided themselves that AOL had done nothing illegal, so as far as I know there was no court decision. Also, it appears that said Federal Office is neither responsible for electronic nor for foreign publications. I think the minister is trying to spead FUD. >From: taxbomber(a)taxbomber.com >Newsgroups: alt.censorship,alt.privacy,alt.security,news.admin.censorship >Subject: Germany Bans Web Pages for Minors - and ALL >Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 06:46:58 GMT >Message-ID: <324cc9c7.7567566(a)news.c2.net> >NNTP-Posting-Host: md19-017.compuserve.com According to Germany's leading tabloid paper "Bild" (Saturday edition), Federal Minister for Familiy Affairs, Claudia Nolte (Christian-Democrat), in an unprecedented decision has formally had several Web pages banned for being "X"-rated by the "Federal Office for the Evaluation of Literature Hazardous to Minors". These are pages featured by Ernst Zuendel, a leading political revisionist located in Canada whose purportedly "Neo-Nazi" views have been the subject of much controversy in Germany. Ms Nolte is quoted as saying: "It is not tolerable that the Internet should be an island with special privileges, on which thoughtless or unscrupulous providers may pursue their infamous activities with impunity." This effectively forces Internet providers to restrict minors' access to said pages - a technical impossibility since most minors accessing the net are be using their parents' accounts. No "Netwatch" or other self-censorship software will suffice to conform with this provision, as it is THE PROVIDERS, not the kids' legal guardians who have to comply with this restriction. Following a recent decision by the State of Hamburg's Supreme Constitutional Court to the effect that service providers cannot be held responsible for possibly illegal contents of data transfers via their networks (here, AOL was accused of disseminating child pornography), this move must be regarded as a circumvention tactics to put the thumbscrews on ISPs nevertheless by invoking Minors Protection legislation instead. (Also note that the Hamburg decision ruled that email message were protected by privacy laws as any snail mail letter - hence, providers could not be expected to monitor their contents as this would violate constitutional rights.) This implies that German based ISPs (including AOL's and Compuserve's local services) will actually have to ban ALL GENERAL access to the Zuendel pages from their systems unless they are willing to risk running afault of the law. ******** [Posted to soc.culture.singapore through an anonymous remailer in\ Germany. 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The New GAK-Clipper Thing will Fail
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Comparing the latest GAK/Clipper III (or is it Clipper IV?) thing to the original Clipper announcement in April 1993, I sense a lot more confusion, a lot more thorny issues, and a lot more vagueness. They just seem more disorganized and less committed than the last time around. Each iteration of Clipper gets less focussed and seems to last a shorter time before the next version is being talked about. A good thing, of course. Some random points: * Unlike with Clipper, where a specification existed and was available within a few weeks for analysis, and where hardware existed (the Mykotronx chips, the AT&T phone), what has been publically presented so far is just a vague commitment to participate. * There seem to be many ways around the new GAK: --superencryption is essentially impossible to stop (e.g., use PGP on text messages, then use the officially-approved GAK--how could this be outlawed?) --the large pool of _existing_ crypto products means people will be using these products for years to come (possibly within GAK wrappers, as just noted)...unless the New World Order (tm) somehow locates, seizes, or otherwise makes criminals out of those who use a once-legal product, how could this be stopped? --the "degrees of freedom" for messages have sharply increased in the last several years: messages inside Web accesses, messages "sent" by posting to message pools (*), direct phone calls, the Net, etc. (* Will posting encrypted messages to the Usenet or world-readable Web sites become a crime? Or will attempts be made to limit distribution of Usenet and access to Web sites? Neither of these seems feasible, but how else could the stated goals of the Administration ("stopping terrorists, etc. from conspiring") be stopped?) (On this point above, yes, I know that there has been no talk of illegalizing the sending of mere encrypted data, only the export of non-GAKked programs. But I think it likely that the LEAs will realize that "criminals" are still conspiring with crypto. One thing they may try is to require that any communication with a non-U.S. site involve GAK. This then raises the Usenet/message pool directly. Since such sites have world-distribution, currently, posting encrypted messages to alt.anonymous.messages or to a mailing list like this necessarily involves export of the messages. It gets complicated to enforce, naturally.) * The Cabal itself seems confused as to what's involved. They seem to be counting on IBM and/or TIS to deliver the solution, and may be just signed on for what they think are reasons of political expediency. * As the IBM scheme gets attacked (in the way Matt Blaze attacked Tessera), as questions are raised about the Key Authorities and their cooperation, and as the _costs_ are revealed....well, I expect further crumbling. (On the "costs" issue, running these Key Authorities, staffing them, complying with subpoenas (and who will _fight_ the subpoenas?), etc., will not be cheap. For software products like Navigator and Explorer, that are either free or very cheap, just who will pay for this infrastructure? Someone at the EPIC Pro-CODE conference in Palo Alto a few months ago--I forget whom--presented calculations of just how expensive a "key recovery" infrastructure could be. Will it cost $50 to send a message to a foreign site? Better to use message pools! :-}) I apologize for the random nature of my comments here. I just see so many points of attack, so many ways to skirt the intentions of GAK, and so much ambivalent commentary from the companies involved, that I am convinced this whole thing will crumble. Unless a "major terrorist incident" galvanizes the effort, it looks to start falling apart almost immediately under the onslaught of Cypherpunks, hackers, other governments (think France wants the USG having access to their traffic?), and the "crypto anarchy" of nations whose borders are not even speed bumps. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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RE: The Right to Keep and Bear Crypto
by Mullen Patrick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Assumptions: Crypto is arms. We have the right to bear arms. Therefore: We have the right to bear crypto.] Following along with the news stories, it would seem the USG doesn't disagree with this logic. What they are attempting to do is limit world distribution, *not* internal distribution. Even with the new key recovery idea, crypto which remains in the US will continue to be unregulated. Another fear is that the administration is using export limits to control domestic use of encryption. While Gore directly stated yesterday that domestic use of encryption will remain unregulated, the double standard for domestic ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and international products might discourage U.S. companies from developing two different versions, leaving U.S. and Canadian customers with the same products that the federal government has deemed safe to ship overseas. [_GAK_Rat_Pack_, John Young, 3 Oct 96] This may (will?) limit the products which are produced by large corporations, as their need for a single, globally distributable product is respected. However, smaller companies who have neither the desire nor finances to distribute their product on a global scale will be unaffected. Shareware/ freeware products will also be unaffected (unless someone from another country pulls it off a website, or similar means). However, all of this is irrelevant, because I must say, Tim May has the proper idea -- We may have the right to bear crypto, but the government has the right to limit the types/amounts of crypto we bear. ** Success in this matter is classifying crypto as speech ** I read somewhere (probably here) about a case which was (was destined??) to be a precedent for crypto as speech. All I can remember was something about the code being classified as speech, or something like that. Sorry I can't quite remember what it was. Anyone have any suggestions/references? Patrick

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Who owns cypherpunks
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Fri Nov 08 02:39:25 1996 Jim Choate writes: > There is one important legal aspect which the operator of the Cypherpunks > mailing list has opened themselves up for with this action. In short > they > have now opened themselves up for defamation and liable suites by > imposing > an editorial policy on the contents of this list (1). I fear you mean "libel," and I think not. (see below.) <snip> > Censorship is censorship, irrespective of the source of the limitation. Oh good. I think I'll sue the Miami Herald for not printing my last letter to them. After all, they "censored" me, right? NOT!!! > Free expression is impossible in an environment of censorship. The right > to > speak not only implies a right to not speak, it also implies the right > to > emit complete mumbo jumbo. I'm afraid we have an excess of living proof around here, lately. <sigh> I am beginning to see why people vote the way they do... >The actual content of the speech is irrelevant. > > The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and press. This does not > imply > in any way an abrogation of responsibility by the party speaking or > distributing it. Only that they would not have limitations on their > actions > imposed by the federal government. I am beginning to wonder if you are serious about promoting John to the level of "the federal government." If this was a joke and I don't get it, I ma sorry to have taken you seriously. > ARTICLE I. > > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, > or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of > speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to > assemble, > and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. [Would that it were so, but...] John is not in the U.S. Congress, and even if he were, this list is _his_ property, not mine, and not yours. He can do with it what he likes. <snip> > I have argued in the past that this list is a defacto public list because > of > the way it is advertised and to the extent it is advertised. All the > protests > by the operator to the contrary will not convince a court. Name one ad for cypherpunks. This list is John's property, and he could cut us all off tomorrow for any reason or no reason. Deal with it. I seriously doubt that even the most socialistic judge in the U.S. (and there are plenty) would buy this kind of garbage. > Hope you folks have a good lawyer. I'm sure John's quaking in his boots. Reread my campground analogy, and try to refute it. You can't. Go start your own list with no moderation. Go start a more moderated list than John's, like Perry's will be. Do whatever, but this moronic thread must end! It is very strange to me that the people asserting some sort of "implied contract" among cypherpunks have yet to offer to pay even *one* month of John's costs. If you want to call the tune, then pay the piper (if he lets you). If you don't, then be quiet about what you're obviously ignorant about. JMR Please note new 2000bit PGPkey & new address <jmr(a)shopmiami.com> This key will be valid through election day 2000. PGP id.A7D63DA9 98 1F 39 BA 93 86 B4 F5 57 52 64 0E DA BA 2C 71 Please avoid using old 1024bit PGPkey E9BD6D35 anymore. Thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEPAwUBMoLjsTUhsGSn1j2pAQFE6AfQgbWxLHSqdGMsKEg+jUSlMIsctR8MIQ6i ZU+7JFoSiAREYIrsrlMs7AYsuzLvaGYLTdlT3reC9EvmWPchfawV+tYzBlKZkLs3 vS6PTghqovDheIiEmwr+E4zq9yuV/ElGs7ZOuO4Ob9LuwSx7Tm+m6OQNGuOoGjpV Y6Gc6vFZ2fEb/Yt3qadQF1Q2Zlf+qjVjglilOefoe2Q+7y7FhYysTvlLGqc42h0P M5J/fbZ3RtpT6dtkT7sqHvj4eZtDMpdn+bXseJkQv4jsbolTyTGR88ee3HU1P/I7 ywWPtOZdoPpP6lSraF0S+PxBOEpkeTRI84Xxw1Jbtblx9Q== =014g -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Anonymous remailer client in Java
by Geoffrey KEATING 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have set up a Java client for type 1 anonymous remailers at <http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geoffk/anon/anon.html>. The client features a simple type-and-click interface, PGP encryption, automatic remailer chaining, and a 100% java implementation---no native code required. It has been tested under Netscape and Sun's AppletViewer on MacOS and Solaris. It will let you create simple reply blocks (those which don't encrypt the message). This is intended as a better way to post mail anonymously via the web (especially since Community ConneXion's https service seems to have shut down). Flaws: - Persons in the US will not be able to use it unless they have a license from RSA (which is unlikely). - It doesn't do Mixmaster remailers yet (but it will soon). - It can't actually send the mail if you're behind a firewall, but it will PGP encrypt a message for you to send. - It has to send all its mail via the HTTP server's machine because of applet security restrictions---you can fix this by making a local copy, or (if you're brave) giving it more permissions. The mail is encrypted from your machine, so this isn't insecure, just slow and a waste of bandwidth. Ideally, it would run from a web site on the same machine as an anonymous remailer, and use that as the first hop in the chain. If anyone (outside the US, of course) would be interested in setting this up, please e-mail me at the address below. Please CC any followups, as I am not presently subscribed to cypherpunks. -- Geoff Keating <geoffk(a)ozemail.com.au>

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Re: Blocking addresses by default
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> With remailer abuse becoming more popular and remailers going down >> because of complaints, there seems to be some interest in remailer >> software that will block all email by default and will only pass >> along email that is explicitly unblocked. Rich wrote: >I think this threatens serious security problems for the remailer >network in two ways: >1. You'd create a list of people interested in anonymous information, > which could potentially be obtained by police or other armed thugs. >2. The traffic would go down so substantially that traffic analysis > would be trivial. Yeah. If you keep a centralized list, it's too risky. I've been thinking about how to implement a related approach - when the mailer receives anonymous mail for you, it sends a message saying Subject: Anonymous message #<cookie> Hi! You've got an anonymous message! Here's how to retrieve it / block future messages / accept all future.... <disclaimers, explanations, etc.> and you can send back the cookie to retrieve the message. Blocking or accepting also using the cookie, to reduce denial-of-service and spam attacks. This approach is primarily useful for terminal remailers, but if you set up the syntax carefully, you can get the things to relay to each other. It's not particularly useful for posting news, though. Since it is good for terminal remailers, that may make it less hassle to run them. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk

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Re: Why is cryptoanarchy irreversible?
by ph＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:58 AM 11/8/1996, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > Strong vs. weak crypto isn't the real issue - for most business use, > weak crypto is obviously unacceptable, but strong crypto with GAK > is ok as long as it doesn't interfere with use (and as long as the > government bureaucrats don't sell too many keys.) We often say that the government is a security weak point and that this makes GAK impractical. However, this is not true. If the holders of the government keys were individually responsible for their release, they would not be released very often. That is, in order to use cryptography you must purchase an expensive encryption license. That pays the salary of a certified "key escrow agent" who is the only person who can decrypt your messages. What stops him from revealing your keys to unauthorized parties? It's his business. If that's not enough, you back it up with criminal penalties for disclosure. And, hiring this person is no different from hiring an employee for your company. There are already similar activities. Lawyers are nominally employees of the state. Employees of Swiss banks can go to jail for violating their secrecy laws. > The government might be able to stop new Netscape versions from > using strong crypto - threatening to confiscate the company's > ill-gotten gains from aiding and abetting money launderers might help, > and threatening to confiscate PCs that use unapproved crypto. > But it's tough to use a widespread threat like that on popular > software once it's out there. I agree, if the software is popular. But, if the fears of the GAKers and the dreams of certain cypherpunks are real, such software will not be popular. Peter Hendrickson ph(a)netcom.com

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[rant] Race
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sandy Sandfort wrote: ... >What you mean WE, white man? ... At first I was afraid to comment, as I have been more than vocal in the last 24 hours, but then I decided that I thought this important enough to bring up. This was the first time on this list that I noticed such an obvious reference to race, granted I'm fairly new to the list,(quite new in fact), and when I think about it, there were several references to Russians and Jews in some of the other posts about Dr. Vulis and his practices. In my rose colored view, I had not taken notice, possibly because they were comments about the statements made by an individual, more likely because I'm gratefully ignorant to most of the filth of this imperfect world. I was unaware of some of the hardships some of my friends and their friends still go through just because of their skin color. Not Just with recognized, individual bigots, but also with the police, and I live in a sparsely populated area. The point I was going to make was that this comment caught my eye, because it bridged my real, though I should say corporal as this is quite real, world with my online world. For a week there, I was a individual in a society of minds, our "race" depended on our individual views. I like being online, I am judged by what I think matters. When something threatens my ability to be free of the definitions put on my physical shell, I react. Does this have any relation to crypto? No But it does have relevance to anonymity. Online I can be who I feel like, not what I look like. For those wondering who I am, I may be an AI painted purple with a big intel sticker on my side, it doesn't matter, what do you think about my ideas.

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Re: Why is cryptoanarchy irreversible?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:46 PM 11/8/96 +0100, Matts Kallioniemi wrote: >At 17:12 1996-11-07 -0800, jim bell wrote: >>Simple analogy: Suppose you put two people into a room with a deck of >>playing cards and a table, instructing "Person A" to build a house-of-cards, >>and telling "Person B" to stop him from achieving his goal. Who do you >>think will win? Obviously, the latter will win: It's vastly easier to >>knock such a structure down than to build it in the first place, and all >>"Person B" has to do is occasionally take a whack at the structure. > >What if Person A is better armed? Could that change the outcome? Well, okay, I sorta assumed a non-violent scenario. But adding that as a possibility actually strengthens the argument: Generally, it's easier to stop somebody doing something out in the open, than to do it. It's easier to knock down a house of cards than to build it up. But it's also easier to shoot the person doing the knocking down, etc. On the other hand, it's easier to DO something...if it can be done in secret. And it's harder to keep somebody from doing something, if that something can be kept secret. That's why it's so important that good cryptography remain legal. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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