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17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Russ of nelson(a)crynwr.com apparently writes: :"Well, you aren't being :carried off in the middle of the night by death squads, so I'm :not going to waste my time on you when I could help other people :in danger of death." I'm not prepared to argue against that :judgement. I am. Russ, this rant is not directed at you. I'm just weary of the Bell-bashing. Perhaps the reason that our society has evolved to the point of not having to fear deathsquads is because of assholes like Bell who keep prodding us to expand the limits of personal liberty and free speech by their rantings. He makes me think; sometimes the unthinkable, and gives me the opportunity to _reject_ his ideas. Each time I suggest that someone goes *a little too far,* I draw in the circle of my own protected speech a bit more. *My God, he can't say that!" He _may_ be an adult who knows and accepts the possible consequences of his speech. Notice the chilling effect on virtually any discussion when the threat of legal action is suggested. There's the danger. Read the entire quote by Donne. *...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind;...* By protecting Bell's right to speak what he thinks, we serve as an example to the rest of the world of what personal freedom really means. *Those crazy Americans* Bell gives me the opportunity to say that his pronouncements are antithetical to the best interests of the _inhabitants_ of this nation, not simply the government itself. Thank you, Jim.

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RFD: Time to kick some anti-scientologist ass?
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I haven't been paying a lot of attention to the Church of $cientology wars until recently. Here's an executive summary for those who don't give a damn. 1. There's a gang of flamers (David Gerard, Jon Noring, Ron Newman, Rob J. Nauta, and the like) who try to stop $cientologists from discussing their religion on the Usenet newsgroup alt.religion.scientology. Most of them are disgruntled former cult members and/or members of other similar cults. 2. The anti-scientologists have caused many cypherpunks anonymous remailers to shut down via their egotistical misuse of them, viz. criminally posting copyrighted Co$ writings to Usenet. They did it knowing that the Co$ is likely to harrass the remailer operators, causing them to shut down and depriving everyone of their services. 3. These harrassers are Usenet Cabal supporters, and they are sometimes joined by initerant cabal enforcers such as Peter Vorobieff, who visit a.r.s to lend a helping hand and to flame Co$. 4. Recently the anti-scientologists have asked me for a copy of my cancelbot, and have been using it to forge cancels for scientologist posts on a.r.s. Here's a typical anti-scientologist Usenet article lauding content-based forged cancels: ]Path: ...!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.coast.net!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!fun ]From: fun%/etc/HOSTNAME (David Gerard) ]Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.religion.scientology.xenu ]Subject: Re: Cancel Summary ]Followup-To: alt.religion.scientology,alt.religion.scientology.xenu ]Date: 5 Jun 1996 20:51:37 GMT ]Organization: Expert Marcabian Spam-Dodgers of the Universe ]Lines: 28 ]Message-ID: <4p4s0p$h06(a)news.mel.aone.net.au> ]References: <SatJun1224302EDT1996(a)lightlink.com> <31b194aa.599605(a)news.clark.net> ]Reply-To: fun(a)suburbia.net ]NNTP-Posting-Host: athene.glasswings.com.au ]X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] ] ]StarOwl (starowl(a)triskele.com) wrote: ]: On 1 Jun 1996 22:43:05 -0400, Lazarus <homer(a)lightlink.com> wrote: ] ]: >Thu May 30 00:48:49 EDT 1996 Lazarus V2.3 ]: >lightlink.com/var/spool/news/control/1456170 ]: >Article: 170077 ]: >From: info(a)triskele.com (ARSE INFO SERVICEl) ]: >Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 13:22:08 GMT ]: >Subject: Bryan Wilson - In Conclusion. ]: > Message-ID: <31a857ae.664540(a)news.clark.net> ]: >Control: cancel <31a857ae.664540(a)news.clark.net> ] ]: Great. Even the parodies of spam get canceled. :-/ ] ] ]Well. This is actually GOOD NEWS. Because what it means is that there is at ]least one spam cancelbot on the case, as is eminently a wonderful idea for ]getting the hell RID of this shit ... in an entirely accepted and acceptable ]Usenet manner. ] ]If you can find the cancel, you can ask whoever zapped it to ]repost it I suppose, in such a way as to evade the cancelbot. ] ]Now what we need is MORE spam cancelbots on this material. ] ] ]-- ]http://suburbia.net/~fun/scn/ -- if it doesn't work for you, email me.

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Re: [NOISE] Buying whales with digicash Re: Anonymous stock trades.
by Perry E. Metzger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bill Stewart writes: > Oh, come on now, Perry - while Friedman has more sense than that, > you've been around the Libertarian party long enough to know people > who call themselves free-market environmentalists who contend that whales > will be best protected if they're owned property, Sure, but Dr. Phill Hallam-Baker, D.Phil., was contending that Friedman said the free market solution was for people to voluntarily stop buying whale meat -- he wasn't even contending that Friedman said the whales should be owned. Dr. Phill Hallam-Baker, D.Phil., presented a portrait of Friedman that is so totally out of line with even the most fuzzy headed free market types that it is almost impossible to believe that he said anything of the sort. Perry

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Hi im Sandra
by GILLILIGAN 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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GRAND JURY: Jonesboro Guilty, Society and Christianity Indicted As Co-conspirators
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Bienfait Nutly News:] A GRAND JURY CONVENING DURING HAPPY HOUR at the CoalDust Saloon took to heart the Arkansas Govenor's statement that, "We need to lay the blame for the Jonesboro tragedy squarely at the feet of the culture that breeds this kind of response in a child." The Grand Jury forebroad noted that the child perpetrators had neither been to Hollywood, nor to any art gallerys funded by the National Foundation for the Arts against the wishes of various 'Family Values' coalitions. "It's pretty clear that these murderous young monsters are an end result of the cultural influences they were exposed to in the course of being brought up in the community of Jonesboro. Accordingly we have returned an unasked- for verdict of 'guilty' against the citizens of that community, and have indicted two others who we feel acted as co-conspirators in this tragedy." The Grand Jury released two beer-stained items of evidence that they had used in their drunken deliberations: * "Road Rage" gets the attention, but more rages are coming into prominence: Pre-pay Rage, Albuquerque, N.Mex., January (a man wanted to pump his gas before he paid; fired several gunshots into the clerk's car). Late-Fee Rage, McLean, Va., January (former State Dept. lawyer was not allowed to rent a movie until he settled an old late fee; ran down the store owner with his car, knocking him through the window of a nearby restaurant). Rain Rage, Los Angeles, February (as two men passed in the rain, their umbrellas accidentally touched; one man then aimed his umbrella at the other's face and thrust the tip through his eye, piercing his brain, sending him to the hospital in critical condition). ~WEIRDNUZ.526 (News of the Weird, March 6, 1998) by Chuck Shepherd * According to a September federal indictment in Des Moines, Iowa, Kenneth Ray Bruner (who is the stepson of a Pentacostal minister in Oklahoma City) led his seven accomplices in prayer three weeks earlier, asking for God's protection just before they set out to knock off Hermans Fine Jewelry. Bruner acknowledged, according to the indictment, "that they were going to do bad things but that they were not bad people." No one was hurt in the robbery, and everyone was behind bars by the following day. ~WEIRDNUZ.526 (News of the Weird, March 6, 1998) by Chuck Shepherd "If these were aberrations," the forebroad slurred, wiping drool off the corner of her chin and slapping the hand of President Clinton, who had passed out in the bar the evening before and stayed over for the trial, "that would be one thing, but these examples are just the tip of the iceberg." "It has been obvious for quite some time that both society and Christianity are way out of control, and there is no telling how much greater the damage they cause would be if these two entities were able to operate without the calming influence of gun-bearing paramilitarists, who can only be pushed so far before they begin to push back, themselves." The Grand Jury's released statement went fairly easy on the parents of the child warriors, pointing out that, from the moment of their birth, they became the SSN-registered property of the government, with the majority of their upbringing being controled by the many laws regulating the manner and nature of education and discipline that their parents are allowed/required to provide for them. "Had the parents taken a strong hand in the discipline and direction of their children's education, they would have been vulnerable to prosecution for a variety of serious offenses, and it is likely the government would have revoked the parents' possession of the child-property in question. "As well, most members of the community of Jonesboro, the surrounding social community, and the Christian community, would have undoubtedly used every available law and law enforcement agency at their fingertips to prevent the parents from helping their children to escape beyond the reach of 'We the Sheeple.'" A barmaid with a Rose Tattoo on her butt nodded in agreement as this portion of the Grand Jury's statement was read. The woman had fled Jonesboro the day before the shootings with her own son, having kidnapped him from a Child Services detention center, where he was placed after a Christian neighbor had turned her in for allowing him to view her live-in boyfriend's Playboy magazines. "I feel kind of guilty for leaving other people's children behind, to suffer the consequences of living in such a dangerous community, but I'm already facing one count of kidnapping..." An informal tribunal of drunks and drug addicts returning from the restrooms questioned the Grand Jury's failure to indict the government. One gentleman paused from wiping foreign substances off of his shoes, to ask, "Since the government is the chief instigator and enforcer in the process of crushing the spirit of children, providing funding for most of the boxes that their free spirits are crammed into, as well as hunting down and putting in more secure boxes those who attempt to evade their responsibility to remain within the boundaries set aside to contain their number..." "Drawing outside the lines!" someone shouted. Nodding agreement, the gentleman continued, "...then surely they should have not only been indicted, as well, and found guilty, but they should have received the same penalty as those who backed the actions of the Waco murderers, according to the guidelines of the McVeigh Convention, as passed by the Mulatohma Citizen's Tribunal presided over by Judge Bell." "Well, we did return a few *secret* indictments," the forebroad grinned, with a wink to the gentleman, "but we're waiting for TruthMonger to figure out where the 'yellow wire' goes..." In the efforts of fairness, so not to be seen as engaging in yet another round of all-too-common Suburbian Christian bashing, the Grand Jury also released evidence that communities and religions far distanced from Jonesboro should think twice before gloating over "the anal-retentives finally getting theirs," as a dark-skinned, slant-eyed member of an obscure religious cult was heard to say, before suddenly dying of alcohol poisoning, whereupon his soul went up on the roof and the bartender dialed 911, asking them to send an ambulance and a Frisbeetarian Priest: * Dubious Salvations: In January in Jerusalem, self-described mystic rabbi David Batzri offered specialized blessings in person or by telephone for those who have sinned by masturbation (which he said is the principal cause of demons). And in Hong Kong in November, self-proclaimed "knight of God" Syed Atta Muhammad, 32, was committed to a psychiatric center after he assaulted a 22-year-old tour guide, whose breasts he thought were too big to serve God because they made her look like a prostitute. ~WEIRDNUZ.526 (News of the Weird, March 6, 1998) by Chuck Shepherd

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Re: Government: Home-Business
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>Dear Friend, >>Thank you for your interest. Please take a minute to read this >>important information or simply print it out. > >>All the information here is 100% accurate and can be verified >>with the Department of HUD in Washington D.C. Bwa-hah-hah fnord.... >I'm getting more and more of this kind of crap sent to me. I have >a procmail script which greps a file of undesirable addresses I've >compiled, but that hasn't proven very useful as there aren't many >repeat offenders. (the procmail script is available at >http://www.universe.digex.net/~mbr/unix/junkmail.html) >How are other people dealing with this? So far, I've been sending them my offer for SPAM PREVENTION CONSULTING! at my usual rates of $250/hour, minimum 2 hours, plus any legal and collection fees required. One of them has a human reading the responses (the CHAG folks), who's not highly impressed (:-), while the folks with the hundreds-of-thousands-of-spam-victims-email-addresses lists have only robo-replied, though they've both sent a second set of spam and are thus billable :-) I assume, since the robo-spammers are posting from a new email address this time, that either their previous ISPs have dumped them, or perhaps that they're using the same ISP and multiple domain names to hide it, probably the former. CHAG is more blockable, since they're trying to portray an image of stability and trustworthiness, as opposed to hit-and-run. Meanwhile, large numbers of replies can always get their attention; I haven't tried forging the address of the robo-spammers' robo-reply-bot on a message to them to see if it knows not to spam itself, but if a thousand people were to do it, they might start to think it was a movement or something..... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # http://www.idiom.com/~wcs # Confuse Authority!

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Re: Reasonable validation of a software package
by David Sternlight 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:12 PM -0700 7/18/96, Carl Ellison wrote: > >The problem people overlook is that a CA binds a public key to a name but >the name is in the CA's name space. For me, a verifier, to derive any >value from a certificate binding (key,name), the name has to be in *my* >name space. > >If there were such a thing as a global namespace meaningful to everyone, >then we could both use it. That's the X.500 falacy/pipe-dream. Think of the common name on a certificate as if it were a first-come, first-served serial number of alphanumeric form. There's no reason to believe that John Smith is YOUR John Smith. Your John Smith might tell you he's John Smith 37. It's kinda like vanity license plates. The alternative is every privacy fan's nightmare--embedded SSNs or some such in certificates. Some of the problems, of course, will be of the users' own making and there they get to pay their money and take their choice. What I mean is that you can optionally include or suppress your e-mail address in Type I certificates, and real address in Type IIs. If you include it you improve the chances of being the "right" John Smith someone is after. If you prefer privacy you will also be less accessible. I see nothing unusual about that--after all, people with unlisted phone numbers are ultimately inaccessible except (pretty much) to those to whom they give the info. > >The fact is, no global name space could be held in one human's mind, so >there's no way a global name space could be meaningful to me. Nor is there any reason it should be. It isn't, now. > >So, to use a certificate from a CA, I need to map a name from its name >space (DN) into a name in my name space (nickname). Every time I've looked >at that process, I've had to have a secure channel over which to learn from >the person I call by that nickname what DN he goes by. Why does it have to be a secure channel? Why can't it be published (for instance by including the address in the certificate)? >If I have that >secure channel, then he could tell me his public key fingerprint ove that >cnnel -- and I wouldn't need the CA. Why wouldn't you use the certificate to bind the public key to the name and address? What need would there be for fingerprint communication? How is this different from 20 John Smiths in the phone book at 20 different street addresses? I'd better know the address of the John Smith I want if I'm to get his phone number from a directory. Note that I'm not attacking what you say. There's clearly something you're getting at that I don't understand--since you post sensible stuff (as far as I recall). Help me out here. David

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Re: How I Would Ban Strong Crypto in the U.S.
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:29 PM 7/16/96, Declan McCullagh wrote: >(Note that Leahy is only occasionally a friend of the Net. His original >crypto bill had troubling additional criminal penalties; he shepharded >Digital Telephony through Congress; he is a co-sponsor of the vile >copyright bill pending right now. In sum, he'd hurt the Net more than help >it. This becomes a problem when netizens hold him up as an champion of our >freedoms -- and then when DT II comes along his fellow senators think it's >okay to vote for it 'cuz Mr. Net, Leahy, is a cosponsor.) By the way, I certainly don't hold him up as a champion of views I can support; I vividly recall his role in the disastrous DT Act. >My rebuttal to Gorelick's fantasy is: well, what about Japan, where the >country's constitution forbids wiretapping? Many countries have constitutions which say fine things, even though the reality is quite different. Some even constitutions which are in many ways better than the U.S. version...until of course the reality on the street is taken into account. Japan has an active SIGINT capability, called Chobetsu, directed domestically at U.S. installations (a la NSA's own SIGINT facility at Misawa AFB) and at domestic companies. Whatever their constitution may say, intercepts are used. Chip companies with facilities in Japan communicate with their facilities with the expectation that MITI and Chobetsu are making all attempts to intercept useful economic intelligence. Information on the intelligence agencies of various countries may be found in the standard reference by Jeffery Richelson, or on the Web at such URLs as http://www.onestep.com/milnet/iagency.htm Here is one entry for Chobetsu: Chobetsu Ground Self-Defense Forces Investigation Japan Division, Second Section, Annex Chamber In short, I don't believe that a New Crypto World Order, with buy-ins already apparent from most European and Asian countries, will be deterred by Japan's nominal promise in its constitution not to wiretap. As a friend of mine who spent the last nine years working for an American chip company in Tsukuba and Tokyo puts it, "Japan is a fucking police state." --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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US govt claims to want to combat "computer terrorism"
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Somehow, I suspect that their efforts will A: not include any non-GAKed cryptography involvement, and probably minimal GAKed cryptography - less chance of someone using superencryption in a hard-to-detect fashion. I also suspect that they'll be cutting down on anonymnity, or at least trying to. Notice the link to an almost completely unrelated incident, namely the Oklahoma City bombing. -Allen > _ Wednesday July 17 1:28 PM EDT _ >U.S. urges "Manhattan Project" for cyber security > WASHINGTON - The Clinton administration is urged U.S. industry to join > in a sweeping new drive to protect computer networks and other modern > lifelines from attack by terrorists and others. [... Jamie Gorelick, or whatever her name is (yes, the pro-GAKing one), said:] > "What we need, then, is the equivalent of the 'Manhattan Project' > for infrastructure protection, a cooperative venture between the > government and private sector to put our best minds together to come > up with workable solutions to one of our most difficult > challenges," she told the Governmental Affairs permanent > subcommittee on investigations. > President Clinton set the stage for such a blitz Monday with an > executive order setting up a blue-ribbon panel that will recommend > measures to safeguard such lifelines as telecommunications, power > systems, water supply, and gas and oil storage and transportation. The > panel is to be chaired by a presidential appointee drawn from the > private sector and will include representatives from government and > industry. [...] > The administration began to focus on the issue after the April 19, > 1995, bombing that killed 168 people in an Oklahoma City federal > office building. > Copyright, Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved

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