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Re: Scientology harassing anon.penet.fi again!
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"frogfarm(a)yakko.cs.wmich.edu" 21-APR-1996 19:39:01.86 >I'm sure within hours of reading this message, you'll be inundated with >requests to have Phil "send me the stuff and I'll post it". The net is >full of people to whom a letter from Helena Kobrin [CoS attorney] is >like a Medal of Honor, who would be happy to relieve Phil of liability >by posting the material themselves. Umm... he'd like to send it out on a mailing list (the RRE newsletter) to which only he can post. Plus, it's simply the stuff that was on cypherpunks. -Allen

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Re: Smartcards are coming to the US
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:06 PM 4/21/96, Lucky Green wrote: >At 15:15 4/21/96, Brad Dolan wrote: >>Saw a CNN story Friday about an interesting special debit card >>application in Mexico. They're being issued to poor Mexicans, who can >>use them to buy tortillas and a few other foodstuffs. The cards are tied to >>a behavior-control database and failure to send kids to school, get >>mandatory medical exams/treatments/vaccinations, etc. results in card >>deactivation. > >My first response was: he is making this up. But it shoudn't come as a >surprise to any reader of this list. Expect to see more of it. Why should this surprise you? In the U.S. there are _already_ several programs which are similar to this Mexican example. For example, "food stamps." Not valid for expenditures on alchohol, tobacco, and various other disapproved-of consumables. One hand takes away the tax monies (albeit not from those getting food stamps, as their income is typically exempt from taxation) and the other hand doles out a special form of scrip that can theoretically only be spent on approved-of substances. Someday--maybe when Perry is out of the country at an IETF meeting--I'll forward my article about the scandalous plan to privatize the nation's food stores, thus making food only available to the rich and denying the poor of their access to the foodstuffs deemed nutricious by the Parent-Grocer Associations (PGAs) and available at their local People's Public Food Distribution Centers. (This was a piece I did in the late 1980s, critiquing the critics of schools vouchers and private schools by imagining a world in which food distribution was done at "public stores" and run much the way our public education is run.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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moderation sucks
by Howard W Campbell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Add-in encryption module to Netscape
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:55 PM 4/20/96 -0700, frantz(a)netcom.com (Bill Frantz) wrote: >I have thought about the sources of entropy available to a Java applet, and >there aren't many. You should design your protocol so entropy is not >needed on the applet side. Entropy is normally used to pick symmetric >encryption keys, and Initialization vectors If your applet wants to set up a Diffie-Hellman connection, it'll need a random number to set its half-key; a scribble window may be good enough. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215

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Re: OS/2 encryption
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:53 AM 4/21/96, mirele(a)xmission.com wrote: >Well, anything to slow them down. It was reported to me that when Dennis >Erlich was raided last year, they rendered his computer unbootable because >of the deletions they had made. As it is, I haven't been able to find an >appropriate security utility beyond PGP (which I've been using for over a >year anyway). So this discussion is moot. Good luck finding something. You might want to see if there's a Norton version for OS/2; their Diskrete product for DOS may not be the highest quality system in the world but at least it's a start, and maybe they do OS/2. There are two ways the Bad Guys can get your system, or the data off it - they can get a search/seizure warrant, or they can subpoena it into court, and you have a lot more control over the process with a subpoena, though the court may be able to compel production of your password (that's debatable, and it's been much debated here and on Cyberia-L, but a search or seizure warrant _can't_ get your password if it's not written down.) Therefore, if they do a seizure, and your file system is encrypted, the Bad Guys can trash the whole thing, or random blocks, but without the password they can't selectively delete data, and trashing the whole thing could look _real_ bad for them in court. >Look folks. *This* is what it's about. I like a little humour. So what >I've been doing is taking *posted* documents and running them through a >filter (the "encheferizer" of alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork) and then >reposting them to alt.religion.scientology. I have been doing this for >over a year. It's only been recently that (a) the Church <spit> started >cancelling them and (b) that they started threatening me over it. Parodies are legal, but translations may still violate copyright, and essentially you're doing an automated translation into some bizarre language space. So if you're using real* CoS documents, you may have a problem. [* Yeah, I know, "real CoS documents" is a bit of an oxymoron. ] Does the Chef do Clam Chowder? # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215

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Re: CoS and anon remailers
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:49 PM 4/10/96 -0400, Jim Byrd wrote: >My feeling is that they will be doing anything they can >to attempt to produce "hard evidence" that I am part of >the Grand Conspiracy. I would say it is virtually certain >that U.S. anon remailers will be subpoenaed as well as any >foreign ones in which they can handle the authorities. Isn't it a bit difficult to subpeona an anonymous remailer? If run on a large enough system, a remailer can be shut down but not siezed. (I can imagine the marshalls hauling off the Cal Tech mainframes.) If a remailer operator has an accomodation address and/or a false name effective service of process also becomes difficult. Usually in life I've noticed that if you just ignore stuff it goes away. Occaisionally you will be hassled but if you ignore many of the orders of others for your whole life, you will find that your net amount of what we might call "autonomous activity" will be greater than if you slavishly obey every order. DCF

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Re: Anonymnity at teleport
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>>Our users can have a P.O. Box as their address (or a false address), >>>whatever they want as their 'real name', and can pay for their accounts by >>>mailing in cash. All they need to do is be close to a phone that isn't >>>theirs for an hour or so. >> >>>The can put in a phone# when they set up, then call in from that phone (even >>>if it isn't their own) and have one of us call them back with a few >>>minutes...all set. Of course, you can also do this with CompuServe or any service that uses phone verification. I opened my CompuServe account in my True Name but with the phone number of one of my mail receiving services. They wanted a similar callback scheme as above. I went to my mail receiving service, called the CIS 800 number and they called me right back. I was friendly with my mail services so had no trouble. DCF

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Re: Fwd:[Yet another -onics..]
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike Denney wrote: > > ----- Begin Included Message ----- > > >From sysgu-1(a)PaloAlto01.pop.internex.net Thu Jan 30 14:31 PST 1997 > Subject: Fwd:[Yet another -onics..] > To: "Sonni Zambino" <sonni(a)dentistat.com>, "Mike Denney" <gomez(a)BASISinc.com>, > "Jim Staudenheimer" <JnCStaud(a)aol.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > ***************************** > "GEEKONICS" IS JUST A BEGINNING > by John Woestendiek > Philadelphia Inquirer > Wed., January 8, 1997 > ***************************** > > NEWS BULLETIN: Saying it will improve the education of children who > have grown up immersed in computer lingo, the school board in San > Jose, Calif., has officially designated computer English, or > "Geekonics", as a second language. > > The historic vote on Geekonics - a combination of the word "geek" and > the word "phonics" - came just weeks after the Oakland school board > recognized black English, or Ebonics, as a distinct language. > > "This entirely reconfigures our parameters," Milton "Floppy" > Macintosh, chairman of Geekonics Unlimited, said after the school > board became the first in the nation to recognize Geekonics. > "No longer are we preformatted for failure," Macintosh said during a > celebration that saw many Geekonics backers come dangerously close to > smiling. "Today, we are rebooting, implementing a program to process > the data we need to interface with all units of humanity." > > Controversial and widely misunderstood, the Geekonics movement was > spawned in California's Silicon Valley, where many children have grown > up in households headed by computer technicians, programmers, engineers > and scientists who have lost ability to speak plain English and have > inadvertently passed on their high-tech vernacular to their children. > > HELPING THE TRANSITION > > While schools will not teach the language, increased teacher awareness > of Geekonics, proponents say, will help children make the transition > to standard English. Those students, in turn, could possibly help > their parents learn to speak in a manner that would lead listeners to > believe that they have actual blood coursing through their veins. > > "Bit by bit, byte by byte, with the proper system development, with > nonpreemptive multitasking, I see no reason why we can't download the > data we need to modulate our oral output," Macintosh said. The > designation of Ebonics and Geekonics as languages reflects a growing > awareness of our nation's lingual diversity, experts say. Other groups > pushing for their own languages and/or vernaculars to be declared > official viewed the Geekonics vote as a step in the right direction. > > "This is just, like, OK, you know, the most totally kewl thing, like, > ever," said Jennifer Notat-Albright, chairwoman of the Committee for > the Advancement of Valleyonics, headquartered in Southern California. > "I mean, like, you know?" she added. > > THEY'RE HAPPY IN DIXIE > > Yeee-hah," said Buford "Kudzu" Davis, president of the Dixionics > Coalition. "Y'all gotta know I'm as happy as a tick on a sleeping > bloodhound about this." Spokesmen for several subchapters of Dixionics > - including Alabonics, Tennesonics and Louisionics - also said they > approved of the decision. Bill Flack, public information officer for > the Blue Ribbon Task Force on Bureaucratonics said that his > organization would not comment on the San Jose vote until it convened > a summit meeting, studied the impact, assessed the feasibility, > finalized a report and drafted a comprehensive action plan, > which, once it clears the appropriate subcommittees and is voted on, > will be made public to those who submit the proper information-request > forms. > > Proponents of Ebonics heartily endorsed the designation of Geekonics > as an official language. > > "I ain't got no problem wif it," said Earl E. Byrd, president of the > Ebonics Institute. "You ever try talkin' wif wunna dem computer dudes? > Don't matter if it be a white computer dude or a black computer dude; > it's like you be talkin' to a robot - RAM, DOS, undelete, MegaHertZ. > Ain't nobody understands. But dey keep talkin' anyway. 'Sup wif dat?" > Those involved in the lingual diversity movement believe that only by > enacting many different English languages, in addition to all the > foreign ones practiced here, can we all end up happily speaking the > same boring one, becoming a nation that is both unified in its > diversity, and diversified in its unity. Others say that makes no > sense at all. In any language. > > ----- End Included Message -----

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UNSCRIBE
by XaViUs＠pe.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

UNSCRIBE

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Re: Unsubsrive
by MBSFT-0K 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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