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RE: REMAIL pasting syntax
by nobody＠rosebud.ee.uh.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Earlier, an anonymous person asked about pasting syntax, about how to paste in a CC: header. The answer is: it depends on which remailer you use. For a Hal-style cypherpunks remailer, you would do something like this: ----------8< cut here >8---------- :: Request-Remailing-To: someone@somwhere ## CC: I am pasting this into the header as the mail leaves Here is my message ----------8< cut here >8---------- But, if you use Chael's remailer (since I beleive he wrote his own software!), you would do this: ----------8< cut here >8---------- :: Request-Remailing-To: someone@somewhere CC: I am pasting this into the header as the mail leaves Here is my message ----------8< cut here >8---------- Of course, you would only want to paste at the last hop since the remailers would trim it out otherwise. For example, this message should have an "X-CC:" header I pasted in. -- Karl L. Barrus: klbarrus(a)owlnet.rice.edu keyID: 5AD633 hash: D1 59 9D 48 72 E9 19 D5 3D F3 93 7E 81 B5 CC 32 "One man's mnemonic is another man's cryptography" - my compilers prof discussing file naming in public directories

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remail Moby Crypto? nonsense.
by cme＠ellisun.sw.stratus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 03:16:48 -0500 >Message-Id: <9309170816.AA08549(a)bsu-cs.bsu.edu> > >We need to get the 9 megs of Moby Crypto stuff mentioned >out to as many sites as we can before the >boots of the Feds seal our doom. >Before the hearing next Wednesday. This is silly. The Moby Crypto stuff is already available worldwide. That's what makes the government's case so incredibly stupid -- but of course, I'm not a lawyer. :-| - Carl

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Moby Crypto
by cme＠ellisun.sw.stratus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I hope you keep in mind that the existence of optical character readers puts printed pages in the domain of machine-readable media. - Carl

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Ke Escrow Procedures...
by Peter Wayner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Carl Ellison writes: Meanwhile, where is the proof that the key being requested corresponds to a person on whom a wiretap has been ordered? When I saw a preliminary briefing given to the CSSPAB, the DOJ suggested that there would be no list kept equating names to Clipper Chip ID #. Of course such a list would be a real disaster because people would routinely be shifting hardware left and right. Any list would become immediately out of date. This means that there is really no feasible way to discover misuse. -Peter

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No Mail in 24 hours....
by frc%bwnmr4＠harvard.harvard.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Did somebody die or what? FRC

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Check out "EFFector Online 6.1"
by tcmay＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The latest "EFFector Online," available in the usual places, is oriented toward crypto, having a lengthy summary of the Skipjack/Capstone issue (more legalese about escrow than crypto) and a nice Barlow piece on crypto (updating his piece a year ago in CACM). Barlow even mentions "unless you're a real cypherpunk," so we're entering the language. I'd post the whole thing here, except that it's 1100+ lines. Definitely check it out! -Tim -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Note: I put time and money into writing this posting. I hope you enjoy it.

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SEA Internet party, NY
by L. Detweiler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Society for Electronic Access. ===cut=here=== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 16:46:17 -0400 (EDT) From: steven cherry <stc(a)panix.com> Subject: Electronic flyer for Sept 27th Intro to Internet event What follows is the flyer for the upcoming Intro to Internet event on Sept 27th. Please feel free to post this far and wide (or at least wide). A physical flyer will also be available this weekend. If you have already volunteered to post these and I have not contacted you by Sunday, or if you have not volunteered yet but would like to, contact me. - -- stc(a)panix.com Steven Cherry - -cut here- ####### ###### ####### ####### ### # # ####### ###### ####### # # # # # # ## # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ##### ###### ##### ##### # # # # # ###### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ####### ####### ### # # # # # ####### ##### ###### ### # # ##### ###### ###### # # ###### ##### # # # # ## # # # # # ## # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #### ###### # # # #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ## # # # # # ## # # # ###### ### # # # ###### # # # # ###### # Date: Monday, September 27, 1993 Time: 6:30 PM Place: Chambers St. (bet. Centre St. and Broadway) in Manhattan The Society for Electronic Access (SEA), a New York metro area group focusing on electronic civil liberties and access issues will be holding an "Introduction the Internet" event. Topics that will be covered: + What is the Internet? + Electronic mail + Usenet Newsgroups + Using the Internet for research + Interactive real-time communications (IRC, talk, MUDs) using the Internet + What do you need to get connected? Our speakers will include Clay Irving, who is a Unix systems analyst and captain of the winning Team.Panix Internet Hunt crew; Karen Schneider, a public librarian and Internet trainer; Shabbir Safdar, an expert at computer games and interactive services; and Joe King, a publisher and the producer of the award-winning Personal Computer Show. In addition, several Internet-access providers in the 212/718 area will be present to tell you about their systems including rates, features, and how you can sign up. Refreshments will be served. RSVP..........RSVP...........RSVP..........RSVP..........RSVP The event is free, but *reservations are required* to attend. To make a reservation to attend, or for more information: leave voice-mail at (212) 592-3801 or send E-mail to gab(a)sea.org. For additional information about the SEA (including the time and place of the next SEA meeting), call via modem (212) 787-3100 and enter "sea-info" at the "login: " prompt, or send E-mail to "sea-info(a)sea.org" (you will receive an automatic reply); or you may leave voice mail request at (212) 592-3801. ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Escrow what ain't
by XXCLARK＠indst.indstate.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Extract from EFFector Online Volume 6 No. 1 "... The briefers admitted that the proposed system is not really an escrow. The agencies holding the key components will not have any duties or responsibilities to the Clipper users. The escrows' obligation will be to the government, and they will be liable to Clipper users only under the Bivens doctrine, where any failure must be shown to be wilful. ..." If it isn't really an "escrow", why do we continue to use the term? If keys are, in effect, surrendered before the fact, why not call it the "key surrender system" when we write or speak about this miasma? Or any other term more nearly accurate than what it is not... Haven't seen a single post promoting tax evasion all day. How curious. --------------------------------------------------------------------- internet : xxclark(a)indst.indstate.edu Vanilla BITNET: XXCLARK@INDST We're all Bozos on this bus... ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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To: an5877@anon.penet.fi
by J. Michael Diehl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry folks. This person anonymously sent me a message to which he expects a reply. But it is impossible for me to reply to this person anonymously since he would be able to place my anonymous Id with my real Id. I know I should learn how to "bounce" anonymous messages, but there seems to be a lack of standardization in this area which I don't want to deal with at the moment. Sorry for the bandwidth. -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.2 hDwC8VlOkFb8HfkBAYCgq9GJ1tSQXsX5Pm5pGrvFfjJPaIRlsYcLdotqAUuSx6jj Rgl3GZfgp8WRRigwd6qmAAAEmyQ6+Ci6MqT5oSmmXNUJ3rR/cguMWRHDt1TOJlae ck6ezF0MZZlQCWp4Lvh7IhWNZckT9pQ4VWHsWqp5jgeWzYaRbspVfEWnZXVvEAvT 9qZVgNJn7ZGlrmXjkpLTMj+/bk516lLAuVCpGj1TaiIRPTt7YEKgJIYY5FjNdvc5 kLkab5GJcRaNOLG8VjVlSyxRg+sbce1eUEgNaIJtg0VvR2dy9BlPyh3xbBgko3C5 3DZ9TIpM3dtHUueOCm16BRITEkzBvHOYgL+xcj4RVcWrkkxI/hiEi12u1SthDQHK CVmvYcsnt5XGgp27dTPprS1i6COPIHtufH7l9/GIbBrOfn4+whegAl0TT72dL2An on62k+RMP2uPFkbAMNPGtMuWZW0ibpoqx/Wz5njsV8ubPVXDXayiXl0WSGBst/DV dQ56iqmV2tUI5ZDe09ARpnkj61mdnjvlBvFYaoRo6SCI2iLg7m6VsUm6XzNYBzG0 KNvpsd0SLFqz98wrSYIK9RqFrvgNKklsliGwciDwg7AJBYIUxxqrmSvRLtZ7eucm 5+Qc5uMPbPp6UohewDp20zwLz6Jjxff7APZOONKn58xKj+bpbKJb2giuohcI+ZzU EJMGis+dZQtcUPHonf6GQ65ly3HDDcDu5nAz9qZOkLASEZ0zRJjgOXprC6bwyiYF p1tXZCIAJPlEeT6uAejMEhBGeUxmbzd0mgGP+Zft0ITMDESeJS/Z3dtW16OcI1+k i77lMw6cNxtLjy5BDgjGaMUhQy7fH9+Xu7csuhoaTPGn+ljSyfxYyV1BwCdYW0h6 lhR3lblqAzSjQrEFQIm9GOn5rHM2iUh0cCPisc0ZKDHsBt6ay4gB5B+MkbO3MPj9 9QtIAtfzjBbJXUh+/jZgKD6lgix3FLoGLt7yYOcxZ4FIcviEW4/5gKoieIy6DPtk WN9L8bSjodnMtKBNFx/H4nUL5HAFyB9WV5PTD3RjgBIZ9p0CNn9TOUkplYQ1uOHa Amfw/z1IIa3Db5YIxEJinRbwfjWudG0jwaaa1Bj6xn/OxY4guw1k3WJ17PrTP61b DDonzptjqRY9UHcvnnrolIaESFYT5Cb2dUZk5yXEcjOsG90lKkIJ+pueGOYY3ZDh CuCONfnAT7ph+vjtYHA0w+s5q6I5rGOI3Pwa7eRi2N4U/bV/O8k207i2NFeqJZ/l aQMs0eFk31mdz4NFsEctX7DZ7bNo5xhQH4ojCDcUhP2GFkghMr6683NGsH90qjZJ 52h23g4ZXCOONDJLkR4kPzcWF+CzfgFPAYzDzjSYPa02RAlapOBV41HkNNJ69vae X5cypQ/HyCIvos6ayNZHdPI+y+13U1GBdwu5O1AwaONqz/B0Q2H3jriSHzqAdDZK 0N8qvutz0PouNBlcMHpTUxon7VTR10oSRV/JieQqYVJ+nlT8WBj+mVxsU2ZGD2mH peg8ZpJWP3X7tW7518BQRH95fLcEoX4Fcnb509hGv9+F+JTH30eG6H5R1aDD6ZXT tfgz05vIrelBI8XYJuZtmid1cxQzXBwML9r9skgF7Scp8q+1pDeAUz4yAp/Oyw==

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To: an5877@anon.penet.fi, again.
by J. Michael Diehl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry folks. This person anonymously sent me a message to which he expects a reply. But it is impossible for me to reply to this person anonymously since he would be able to place my anonymous Id with my real Id. I know I should learn how to "bounce" anonymous messages, but there seems to be a lack of standardization in this area which I don't want to deal with at the moment. Sorry for the bandwidth. -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.2 hDwC8VlOkFb8HfkBAYCgq9GJ1tSQXsX5Pm5pGrvFfjJPaIRlsYcLdotqAUuSx6jj Rgl3GZfgp8WRRigwd6qmAAAEmyQ6+Ci6MqT5oSmmXNUJ3rR/cguMWRHDt1TOJlae ck6ezF0MZZlQCWp4Lvh7IhWNZckT9pQ4VWHsWqp5jgeWzYaRbspVfEWnZXVvEAvT 9qZVgNJn7ZGlrmXjkpLTMj+/bk516lLAuVCpGj1TaiIRPTt7YEKgJIYY5FjNdvc5 kLkab5GJcRaNOLG8VjVlSyxRg+sbce1eUEgNaIJtg0VvR2dy9BlPyh3xbBgko3C5 3DZ9TIpM3dtHUueOCm16BRITEkzBvHOYgL+xcj4RVcWrkkxI/hiEi12u1SthDQHK CVmvYcsnt5XGgp27dTPprS1i6COPIHtufH7l9/GIbBrOfn4+whegAl0TT72dL2An on62k+RMP2uPFkbAMNPGtMuWZW0ibpoqx/Wz5njsV8ubPVXDXayiXl0WSGBst/DV dQ56iqmV2tUI5ZDe09ARpnkj61mdnjvlBvFYaoRo6SCI2iLg7m6VsUm6XzNYBzG0 KNvpsd0SLFqz98wrSYIK9RqFrvgNKklsliGwciDwg7AJBYIUxxqrmSvRLtZ7eucm 5+Qc5uMPbPp6UohewDp20zwLz6Jjxff7APZOONKn58xKj+bpbKJb2giuohcI+ZzU EJMGis+dZQtcUPHonf6GQ65ly3HDDcDu5nAz9qZOkLASEZ0zRJjgOXprC6bwyiYF p1tXZCIAJPlEeT6uAejMEhBGeUxmbzd0mgGP+Zft0ITMDESeJS/Z3dtW16OcI1+k i77lMw6cNxtLjy5BDgjGaMUhQy7fH9+Xu7csuhoaTPGn+ljSyfxYyV1BwCdYW0h6 lhR3lblqAzSjQrEFQIm9GOn5rHM2iUh0cCPisc0ZKDHsBt6ay4gB5B+MkbO3MPj9 9QtIAtfzjBbJXUh+/jZgKD6lgix3FLoGLt7yYOcxZ4FIcviEW4/5gKoieIy6DPtk WN9L8bSjodnMtKBNFx/H4nUL5HAFyB9WV5PTD3RjgBIZ9p0CNn9TOUkplYQ1uOHa Amfw/z1IIa3Db5YIxEJinRbwfjWudG0jwaaa1Bj6xn/OxY4guw1k3WJ17PrTP61b DDonzptjqRY9UHcvnnrolIaESFYT5Cb2dUZk5yXEcjOsG90lKkIJ+pueGOYY3ZDh CuCONfnAT7ph+vjtYHA0w+s5q6I5rGOI3Pwa7eRi2N4U/bV/O8k207i2NFeqJZ/l aQMs0eFk31mdz4NFsEctX7DZ7bNo5xhQH4ojCDcUhP2GFkghMr6683NGsH90qjZJ 52h23g4ZXCOONDJLkR4kPzcWF+CzfgFPAYzDzjSYPa02RAlapOBV41HkNNJ69vae X5cypQ/HyCIvos6ayNZHdPI+y+13U1GBdwu5O1AwaONqz/B0Q2H3jriSHzqAdDZK 0N8qvutz0PouNBlcMHpTUxon7VTR10oSRV/JieQqYVJ+nlT8WBj+mVxsU2ZGD2mH peg8ZpJWP3X7tW7518BQRH95fLcEoX4Fcnb509hGv9+F+JTH30eG6H5R1aDD6ZXT tfgz05vIrelBI8XYJuZtmid1cxQzXBwML9r9skgF7Scp8q+1pDeAUz4yAp/Oyw== =tHfY -----END PGP MESSAGE-----

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