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Anonymous Web Services Inc.
by J. Kent Hastings 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cpunx, ecashers, and others: Oh joy, these guys are good publicity for our side. :^( Arghh!!! http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/digicrime/index.html > Anonymous Web Services Inc. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > [Image] > > What We Do > > * We make deals > > * We rip people off for you > > * We get you money > > * We get you WebServer accounts > > * We work for you > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > We are an anonymous server that relays our pages through such services > as Angelfire, C2, and many other services. We are in business for you > benefit. > > If you have an America Online account, we have the capabilities to > give you complete unlimited access, and you pay nothing! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Have you always wanted that $8,000.00 snowboard? Or that 4x4 FORD > F150? Well, if you give us the URL of the product you would like us to > get for you, just send the needed information, and we will go > "shopping" for you. Of course this isn't totally free, you have to pay > 5%. Hey, paying $5.00 for a $100.00 CD Player isn't bad! > > We deal in the anonymous market, as do most World Wide Web servers, > and that is why security is the top priority, wherever you go. If you > want to set up an account with us, so you can steal stuff, "buy" > stuff, and make anonymous web pages, send us your credit card number, > and other needed information such as your expiration date, and we will > set up an accounts for you! We also accept ECash! > > Do you know somebody that you really hate? Tell us their name, and > what you would like to do to them, and we can make them wanted by the > Alabamba police, or we can anonymously transfer money from their > credit cards or checking accounts to you! Now dowsn't that sound > great? Free money, and free pleasure! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > If you create an accounts with us, you will feel nothing but the best > superiority to all of the little losers peddling aourd you. Consider > our service as, your own personal hacker. Except you can tell us > whatever you want, and make us fuck up your enemies. We don't kill > people, we just take away their old identity. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Send email to WebMaster(a)digicrime.org > > Special Offer... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > If you are in Illinois, particularly in the northern part, we can give > you FREE Ameritech Voice Mail! Free? You ask, well there is an easy > way to get the numbers. You can either E-Mail me for instructions, or > E-Mail me for a already made box. We have some boxes that allow you to > make calls from, for example, if you have a friend in Australia, give > him a call, talk to him for an hour. It is totally free, illegal, and > untraceable. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Last Updated Tue Jul 2 01:04:34 1996 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > This web page was provided by Angelfire Communications. > The material on this page are the responsibility of its author, not > Angelfire Communications.Kent -- Browse sample chapters of new books by bestselling authors, pay online with a credit card or ecash, then download books in HTML or Adobe Acrobat format from the web at http://www.pulpless.com/

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Best IDEA implimentation?
by Schaerer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A brief scan of FTP sites will result in several different implimentations of the IDEA algorithm. Is there any agreement as to the 'best' (Def: easily compiled, syntax that helps prevent dumb errors, good documentation, relatively quick on most computers, etc)? If it varies from computer to computer, what would the best implimentation be for an Intel Pentium running ms-dos/windows95 using the djgpp c/c++ compiler? I greatly appreciate any and all help. - Jim Schaerer --- Since this is my first post, I suppose I should introduce myself (since I know you all are just dying to learn about me :-) ). I am a high school student from Tulsa, Oklahoma, who has had an interest in cryptography for the last year-or-so. Needless to say, I have absolutely no training in cryptography or advanced mathematics - everything I know comes from books or essays on the aforementioned subjects. When I'm not on my computer, music (Classical) is my past-time. My primary instrument is the euphonium (think small tuba with a mellow sound), which I plan on playing through college and beyond.

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Re: DES brute force? (was: Re: Borders *are* transparent)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 21:10 7/23/96, Mixmaster wrote: >The problem with banking applications is that cracking a real key >causes lots of real damage. I don't think it is illegal (as long >as you don't withdraw somebody else's money), but publishing e.g. >one of the DES keys used for the "EC Card" PIN verification would >bring the European ATM system close to collapse. Finding a self- >generated key, on the other hand, is not very impressive. Keys can be changed. Sounds like a good target to me. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: Anguilla - A DataHaven?
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:55 PM 8/15/96, William Knowles wrote: >On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Arun Mehta wrote: > >> I'm sure this has come up before, but what would prevent a server >> being located on a buoy or something at sea outside territorial >> limits (or when satellites become cheaper, on a satellite itself) >> offering such services? > >Something that I thought would make an excellent data haven would >be older offshore oil platforms, Their size would allow extended >living periods, electrcity and communications are in place, They >are generally built outside of the territorial waters of most >countries to avoid any damage to the shorelines if oil spilled >(possibility for becoming its own country?) and with the hoops >that Shell Oil went through to please Greenpeace with its last >oil platform. You have to wonder how cheap these could sell >for just to get them off the oil companies hands? > >Comments or suggestions? As with offshore buoys, how long do you think such an entity would last? You mentioned Greepeace...don't forget that the French intelligence apparatus sunks a Greenpeace ship in a New Zealand harbor. Don't forget the way the U.S. mined Managua's harbor. And so on. Think of how any of these schemes are vulnerable to a cheap torpedo, "anonymously mailed" from several miles away. Oil rigs, buoys, pirate ships....these are all examples of hopelessly insecure systems. I could say more, but what's the point? --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Anguilla - A DataHaven?
by Greg Kucharo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The only ideal I can think of would be the fictional "Port Watson". What is you had a system that spanned countries, using the internet as a linking device. It would be the same service. But when you specified the kind of data you wanted to post, the system would route it to the appropriate server in a country where it wasn't illegal. ---------- > From: Vincent Cate <vince(a)offshore.com.ai> > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Anguilla - A DataHaven? > Date: Wednesday, August 14, 1996 5:40 AM > > > Tim: > > Rather, there is an "archetype," if you will, of what a "remailer" is, what > > a "data haven" is, what a "tax shelter" is, etc. While we cannot reasonably > > expect a remailer to exactly match the archetype, we can point out obvious > > deficiencies. > > 1) Anguilla has secrecy laws. Professional relationships are confidential. > There are strong secrecy laws. I have not given out taxbomber's > name, nor will I as I could face legal action if I did. > > 2) Anguilla has no sales or income taxes. A business does not need to > report anything about income, sales, etc, to the government (or anyone > else). If a guy wants to sell his data and keep 100% of the profits > instead of 50% or 60%, then Anguilla would be a haven for him. > > 3) We don't have the same laws as other countries, so there are things > that can be done here. For example, we can export encryption > software. Also, we will have bingo.com in Anguilla. > > There are deficiencies from a cypherpunk or Libertarian point of view. And > these are interesting. And exactly what I want to do is changing. As I > said, Anguilla is not the datahaven of cypherpunks wet dreams. I am sure > there are no datahavens that match the cypherpunk concept of an ideal > datahaven, yet. > > But I think the term DataHaven applies as well to Anguilla as any other > place I know of. > > Tim, we would all be very happy if you were to locate a country that could > be the site of the ideal datahaven, and finance a couple cypherpunks to > setup there. It would be a big help to our cause. Could you do this? > > In the mean time, people may have to exist in cyberspace (like > www.taxbomber.com) without having a totally secure physical location. > This is not the end of the world, or really even that painful. If done > right you could be down for only an hour - just long enough for > nameservers to change. Taxbomber is now setup to do it very fast next > time, if the need ever comes. Tim, I think you have even advocated this > approach, not stressing the physical location, just the cyberspace > location. No? > > -- Vince > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Vincent Cate vince(a)offshore.com.ai http://www.offshore.com.ai/vince/ > Offshore Information Services http://www.offshore.com.ai/

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Re: Twenty Bank Robbers -- Game theory:)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My commentary below supposes that the robbers are _not_ cypherpunks, but are fanatic logicians, and prefer poverty to death. It also assumes that all motions are non-debatable, which reduces the amount of dealmaking possible. At 05:52 AM 7/26/96 -0400, Rabid Wombat <wombat(a)mcfeely.bsfs.org> wrote: >If only 19 and 20 are left, 19 has 50% of the vote, and can take all. #20 >loses out. >Therefore, with 18,19, and 20 left, 20 will take whatever 18 offers, as >it is better than getting nothing. >With 17,18,19,20 left, 17 should propose a split with 20, who will likely >get a smaller cut from 18, because of the above. > >With 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, three votes are needed, reducing the take for >the majority, so no one other than #16 is acting in their best interest >to approve a split, except for #19 trying to avoid losing out to 17/20 in >the next round. Not enough for a majority. Wrong. If 16 gets killed, 18 knows that 17 and 20 will probably split the money, so it's in 18's interest to team with 16 and 19. 15, 17, and 20 can also vote to split the money. 14's position is a bit shakier, but he's got more people to deal with. ...>... >All even-numbered cypherpunks should then expect a short life expectancy. >(You are number 6; who is number 1?) What do you want? - The money! # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> # Dispel Authority!

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Am I protected by ignorance?
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Fri Jul 26 11:26:59 1996 I have a question about legal issues: Lets asume I have a service provider in switzerland who gives me web-space. I publish strong cryptography there. The server itself is physically in USA, but my domain is something like "www.itar.ch" (a swiss web-address). Since there is no way for me to know where the server stands, do I violate the ITAR, and if so, am I realistically prosecutable? - --------< fate favors the prepared mind >-------- Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/remopini/rpcrypto.html - ------< words are what reality is made of >------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMfiPZBFhy5sz+bTpAQHbKggAi7kG/Bp8x+fApJTTSDw6AAcXe+U5TyVG ladtDvnQOQE66raEqvfTWUPuyB5Fa9xqRAe/kpSkxU7802TPMnxMii3dJPLaOMv7 eYZx58VVVeSmbnC3qnN4SU5uSYnS7dNXE50kPaZDq0bap3O2LVB0yTL30xqBuF5+ EJs73dJQRKt/UipbymTLmeThDM1bRj0CxRL5b1OHHoYM5yDMhpxrS5KWnke7Pxqe lTM3K+XTdpLC3MgmD15hpAfpn82uYGm8a21EsJ/ODLdxrdEv7mRm36V7EYH+JAqM 9jM3Hy38vnGHk6inB2dLGofa5tzFdbEhW2TtL6chRAnmemQkmVN8jg== =eWJb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Twenty Bank Robbers -- Game theory:)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:35 PM 7/25/96 -0500, ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov) wrote: >In my initial post that caused all the turmoil I said (literally) this: >``Twenty cypherpunks robbed a bank.'' > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >I was careful choosing words. That was my reaction as well. I'd assume that if twenty cypherpunks rob a bank, either it's one of Eric's party games (:-), or else they probably conspired over the net to rob a bank by computer. 1) The bank probably knows which bank got robbed. 2) The public probably won't hear about it. 3) The cypherpunks might or might not. 4) The number and identity of the cypherpunks is unknown, both to each other and to the bank. 5) If all twenty bank-robbing cypherpunks do conspire to get together in a room to split up the loot, it's probably a chat-room or mud-room; it's not likely to be physical space. 6) It's very hard to kill people whose identities you don't know across a net that obscures their physical location as well. 7) I suppose you could kill-file them, which does cut them out of the voting process, and therefore probably out of the money, but is certainly less drastic than shooting them. 8) Besides, how do you tell who's first on the list when they're all nyms anyway? 9) Who's got the money, anyway? Was there some sort of secret-sharing protocol to make sure that the one cypherpunk holding the loot doesn't just telnet to Argentina.com with it? 10) Money? What money? 11) How do they conduct the voting? Merely arguing over the voting protocols could occupy megabytes of list bandwidth. 12) They could just decide to use the money to pay the winner of a lottery to predict when somebody shoots Jim Bell. 13) But that wouldn't really take much, so there's still a lot left over. 14) N>10 of the twenty are really all Tentacles, so they can all vote to shoot any non-Tentacle and then vote to split the cash between themselves. 15) They could even killfile one or two Tentacles just to make it look like a fair process. 16) I _knew_ we shouldn't have killfiled Lieutenant Niedermeyer! 17) Seventeen is the mystical number. 18) If the public _does_ hear about it, the bank's stock will drop like a rock, and they can use the money to buy out the bank. 19) It's mine, mine, all mine! 20) Bang! # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> # Dispel Authority!

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NOT noise! Serious cypherpunkly work afoot
by bryce＠digicash.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anybody have a Nextstep box with gcc and gnumake that I can borrow some CPU cycles from? Thanks! Bryce Ecash 2.x Team -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMfi4yUjbHy8sKZitAQFAlAMA0yfFER9v3N9sYezA/Kt8oT7DeIX9NY1d nn2B3ErsG4O7RXvmHvbtSG7raysqP5VCGQKstdUuufAVR50XQZQeQaV5RAh9dJkw bGSsVdJwnpJUwzZKe8cKq2j3FcRRgqpJ =2Qj6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Nymrod is shutting down
by John Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted as well. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The nymserver located at nymrod.jpunix.com is shutting down due to abuse. The type-I/type-II MiddleMan remailers are unaffected. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMhjnFVOTpEThrthvAQFcQAP+LYtkT16wJGmmzbYymzRJv1IRdVotwvrY 4hUKn5y+TyCTWoyHQlUR3//L0nRPzViqm1GBeT4Tw88kmEvmRSguCYTxuNV3gr6t n8gOP/MKoYTZ1tdxYRMDd+LN2I4j2phUF90sItiLT04/JD65CwRNblD0bFWSbGr7 X8YiOIVkxTQ= =VA6N -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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