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co-sponsors S.974
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by perry(a)imsi.com (Perry E. Metzger) on Thu, 13 Jul 4:51 PM >I searched Thomas and couldn't find any evidence of >co-sponsors to the Senate bill. Am I wrong here? As you know, gnu(a)toad.com sent the EFF analysis which included: > From: ssteele(a)eff.org (Shari Steele) > ... > Fortunately, the bill does not have a very promising > future. The bill has no co-sponsors. It was immediately > referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, where it > currently sits. LEXIS's bill tracking report only gives > it a 10% chance of passing out of the committee. ... In contrast, the following is from law list Cyberia-L today: > At 8:17 AM 7/13/95 -0400, James R. Coleman wrote: >> Anyone know the committee status of this bill. Does it >> have co-sponsors? House sponsors? Are hearings >> scheduled? Or is Grassly not serious but tryint to get >> some press in Des Moines? > The bill was co-sponsored by Sens. Kyl (R-AZ) and Leahy > (D-VT). It has the enthousiastic support of the > administration. In a DOJ press release following its > introduction, AG Reno is quoted as saying "computer crime > is fast becoming everyone's problem. I'm encouraged that > this bill is off to a bipartisan start, and I hope > Congress will move quickly to enact it." > > If there's a companion bill in the House, I'm not aware of > it. > > John Noble Anyone got better info on yes/no sponsors or seen the DOJ press release?

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Looks like "Cypherpunks Key Cracking Ring" is done .....
by Piete Brooks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I noticed that http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/percent.html was reporting: Percentage complete PERCENTAGE COMPLETE 4094 / 4096 = 100.6 percent which looked a bit odd to me :-) Do I detect a Pentium at work ?? Anyway, I grabbed a 29 bit address space and got: ffe0000000 29 THATS IT FOLKS! ALL DONE! and now it reports: Percentage complete PERCENTAGE COMPLETE 4096 / 4096 = 100.7 percent

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Re: Eudora MacPGP Woes
by Steven Champeon - Imonics Development 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

| From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" <hal9001(a)panix.com> | Subject: Re: Eudora MacPGP Woes | | At 14:40 7/8/95, Black Unicorn wrote: | >I have noticed that an X-Attachement: header is added, but I have no idea | >how to remove it without opening the Eudora outbox with teachtext or | >something. | | Highlight the file name on the attachments line and hit delete to remove an | attached file request. I guess I'm still confused about why there's an X-Attachment: header being added. If the file is being generated by MacPGP without using the Applescript, you can simply open the resulting encoded file (provided it is being ascii- armored) from within Eudora then copy and paste it into an open Compose window. Voila. No X-Attachment: header. If you delete the file name on the attachments line, it also removes the attachment. Mr. Unicorn: have you had any luck with the Applescript? You might try booting without extensions (except for Applescript) and open Eudora off-line and keep trying. Hope this helps, Steve

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Re: Dr. Seuss, Technical Writer
by Christopher.Baker＠f14.n374.z1.fidonet.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

* In a message posted via CYPHERPUNKS dated: 11 Jul 95, you stated: > What If Dr. Seuss Did Technical Writing? > > Here's an easy game to play. > Here's an easy thing to say: and what if there was a complete version of this somewhere? [grin] --- Following message extracted from REC.ORG.MENSA @ 1:374/14 --- By Christopher Baker on Thu Dec 15 11:27:49 1994 From: Mike Steiner To: All Date: 15 Dec 94 02:40:52 Subj: Bits in a Box From: steiner(a)best.com (Mike Steiner) Organization: Society for the Preservation of Endangered Societies A Grandchild's Guide to Using Grandpa's Computer Bits Bytes Chips Clocks Bits in bytes on chips in box. Bytes with bits and chips with clocks. Chips in box on ether-docks. Chips with bits come. Chips with bytes come. Chips with bits and bytes and clocks come. Look, sir. Look, sir. Read the book, sir. Let's do tricks with bits and bytes, sir. Let's do tricks with chips and clocks, sir. First, I'll make a quick trick bit stack. Then I'll make a quick trick byte stack. You can make a quick trick chip stack. You can make a quick trick clock stack. And here's a new trick on the scene. Bits in bytes for your machine. Bytes in words to fill your screen. Now we come to ticks and tocks, sir. Try to say this by the clock, sir. Clocks on chips tick. Clocks on chips tock. Eight byte bits tick. Eight bit bytes tock. Clocks on chips with eight bit bytes tick. Chips with clocks and eight byte bits tock. Here's an easy game to play. Here's an easy thing to say.... If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, and the bus is interupted as a very last resort, and the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort then the socket packet pocket has an error to report! If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash, and the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash, and your data is corrupted cause the index doesn't hash, then your situation's hopeless, and your system's gonna crash! You can't say this? What a shame, sir! We'll find you another game, sir. If the label on the cable on the table at your house says the network is connected to the button on your mouse, but your packets want to tunnel on another protocol, that's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall, and your screen is all distorted by the side-effects of gauss, so your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse, then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang, cause as sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang! When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk, and the microcode instructions cause unnecessary risc, then you have to flash your memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM. Quickly turn off your computer and be sure to tell your mom! (God bless you Dr. Seuss wherever you are!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Origin: COBRUS - Usenet-to-Fidonet Distribution System (1:2613/335.0) -30- TTFN. Chris --- GenMsg [0002] (cbak.rights(a)opus.global.org)

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Re: who knows about Security First Network Bank
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>X-Sender: blanneau(a)pic.net >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 17:04:41 -0500 >To: MINITERS(a)Citadel.edu >From: blanneau(a)bilbo.pic.net (Bazile R. Lanneau, Jr.) >Subject: Re: who knows about Security First Network Bank >Cc: www-buyinfo(a)allegra.att.com > >Are you trying to find it? http://www.sfnb.com >Neat site! > >------------------------------------------ >Bazile Lanneau >Britton & Koontz First National Bank >Natchez, MS 39120 >601-445-5576 >blanneau(a)pic.net >blanneau(a)bkbank.com (Soon) > > >>>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:32:04 -0400 (EDT) >>>From: Syl Miniter 803-768-3759 <MINITERS(a)Citadel.edu> >>>Subject: who knows about Security First Network Bank >>>To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >>>Cc: MINITERS(a)Citadel.edu >>>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>>Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com >>>Precedence: bulk >>> >>>There is an extensive article in the July issue of "Bank Technology News >>>about >>>a startup Internet bank by the name above. >>>Does anyone know about this outfit. >>> >> >>----------------- >>Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) >>Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 >>USA (617) 323-7923 >>"Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<< >> >> >> >> > ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Off Your But and Learn!
by an250888＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I am not a programmer either, but I am being motivated to become one. >If only there was more time. Neither am I, but may I suggest the following: S. Prata, C++ Primer Plus: Teach Yourself Object-Oriented Programming, 2d ed., Waite Group Press, ISBN 1-878739-74-3 (1995). Nuts & bolts. S. Lippman, C++ Primer, 2d ed., Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-54848-8 (1993). Not quite so nuts and bolts, but good to read after covering the treatment of the same material in Prata. I've just starting working through these and find them effective. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Fight, or Roll Over?
by cman＠communities.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Since the Anti-Electronic Racketeering Act of 1995 might as well be called the "Anti-Cypherpunk Act of 1995", I'm surprised to see Tim throw in the towel already, when the bill hasn't even made it through committee yet. Not that I place a lot of faith in our elected officials, but this bill seems to step on so many toes, and to be so plainly idiotic, that we are bound to get some support from unexpected quarters. Nothing surprised me more, in fact, than all the mainstream IS magazines (like Information Week) denouncing the Exon ammendment. This, though, is a much more subtle and insidious bill, and takes away something that most people don't even know they want yet. (The Exon ammendment, on the other hand, could have been dubbed, "The Cypherpunk Market-Creation Act of 1995.") Nevertheless, it is certainly possible to fight this bill and win, while at the same time, preparing to go underground if it passes. Go underground? Well, as I read it, this bill basically makes cypherpunks a "corrupt organization", subject to the full impact of the RICO statutes. With the passage of this bill, we will have the same status in the US as the neo-Nazis have in Germany, and will have to adopt similar communications and organization techniques. Who knows, maybe this is the best thing that could happen, although I'm real curious about who will back off to protect their ass-ets and who will actually keep on chugging towards crypto anarchy. In the short term, I've renewed or started memberships in the organizations that are likely to fight this -- but I'm also fired up to get more easy-to-use software out there, and do what I can to help build infrastructure that can resist this sort of nonsense.

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Re: Timothy C. May: Re: Crisis Overload (re Electronic Racketeering)
by tcmay＠sensemedia.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:57 AM 7/14/95, L. McCarthy wrote: >> Perry, >> >> I have all I'm going to take of your acerbic rudeness to me. >> >> I will no longer be responding to any of your messages. >> >> --Tim > ><sigh> > >Everybody needs to take a deep breath and count to 1,000. Seriously, >we're all feeling plenty of stress today. Various people have been >talking about getting out of the U.S. while the going's good (?), and >it doesn't sound much like hyperbole this time. It's not surprising that >we're releasing our frustration on each other, lashing out at the nearest >quasi-tangible targets. Note that I didn't post that to the list. Your requoting it, without the intermediate quoting of the person who _did_ post it to the list, makes it appear I was spewing this garbage to the list, when I wasn't. I don't care for your pop psychology. I would've followed your advice and left these comments in e-mail only, had you done the same. --Tim May .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)sensemedia.net | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-728-0152 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Corralitos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Grassley: Lick my Gorton, Exon me all night long...
by K. M. Ellis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I don't know if anyone has taken this into consideration: several people have noted that the anti-racket-whatever bill doesn't have too much chance of getting out of committee because its wording is a bit, well, broad. It's being reviewed by the Senate Judiciary committee. This is a problem for us, because Sen. Grassley is the chair of that committee. His e-mail address is chuck_grassley(a)grassley.senate.gov, fire away! Proud to be an Amurican, -=Kathleen M. Ellis=- "Buy your data, encrypt a rifle, and wait to be revolting..." -=The Book of Phil 7:1=- kelli(a)zeus.towson.edu http://zeus.towson.edu/~kelli/ GAT d? H+ s+++:-- !g p? !au a- w++@ !v@ c++++ UL++ P+ L+ 3 E---- N+ K W--- M-- V-- po- Y++ t+ 5-- jx R G'''' tv- b+++ D-- B e+ u** h* f++ r--- n+ z** Diverse Sexual Orientation Coll.Towson State University DSOC(a)zeus.towson.edu BigBrotherSystemsBBS........BigBrotherIsWatchingYou.......(410)494-3253#11

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Re: Encryption and ITAR
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:30 PM 7/13/95 EST, It's supposed to crash like that. wrote: >Anyone know how far ITAR reaches? Is there a list of programs that are illegal >to take from america anywhere else? My company does a LOT of buisness (80%) >outside the US, and I wonder if they are maybe pissing off the NSA or somthing >with some software they take with them. (a DES encrypter, and some other >encryption stuff) It's the other way around. Anything that does encryption that they _haven't_ explicitly given you permission to export, or that isn't subject to subtle and arguable interpretations of the law (or blatantly obvious interpretations of the First Amendment) is verboten. So buy your crypto stuff overseas, and import it, and write letters to your COngresscritters about how annoyed you are that you have to do this. Might as well send them a bill for the extra expenses you've had to incur; they won't pay it, of course, but it should amuse some of the Republicans.... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com

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