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by an253362＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all! Interested in discussing underground matters of cypherpunks. Send your pgp pub key for more privacy. FYI, my pub key: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2i mQCNAzCao3cAAAEEANtplwCQqBOzXFfnHqUj6DCUfxhGPNH4J5/GadrqHjxSboDd E0PEaXqg3JvAxMckmvasugDSK80rzEwgYJspeVuh6Cuq2fLhcFwGi1zn2mDrDlzO 0rQB8+CPj3dc03Eih9h8UvMcPl41VDwdtSV7CYXa5isMqw1fwh4YWpiTx+FtAAUR tAxIZWxsJ3MgQW5nZWyJAJUDBRAw8rfgHhhamJPH4W0BAdezA/9hu5OUg6hiEuJ4 CU2cPdeoesTt8IfyGmAI7QCe5fXnGuNFTDjdlzS7FBUUE13ci5RNBUUs+jUNHeWp ubyNBT0jvZUsTOBsrftrBxCW9PpeqZCXXSpxFx8XOgjdAQmf7a9bAKvq0IWx5/19 0NozRdmy61sBGMzFMNuSayLS3qR7kbQfQW5nZWxvIDxhbjI1MzM2MkBhbm9uLnBl bmV0LmZpPg== =Wv6H -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION*** Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED. Please, report inappropriate use to abuse(a)anon.penet.fi For information (incl. non-anon reply) write to help(a)anon.penet.fi If you have any problems, address them to admin(a)anon.penet.fi

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Re: Futplex makes the news!
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Duncan Frissell <frissell(a)panix.com> wrote in "Re: Futplex makes the news!": [..] "Then there was the time that my RA (Resident Assistant) in my dorm in a small (private) liberal arts college in the Northwest found out I had a gun in my room..." Ah. The only semester I lived on campus, the RA was our roommate, who just finished doing a round of bong hits with us, then walked around the hall and busted everyone else who was smoking dope. It's sad when a noneteen year old kid tries to act like your mother or father.

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Trans World Specials Fare Sales
by Trans World Specials 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Welcome to Trans World Specials for February 17th, 1998. All tickets must be purchased by February 20th, 1998. Domestic fares are valid for outbound travel 2/21/98 and returning 2/23 or 2/24/98. New York to Milan fare is valid for outbound travel 2/20 or 2/21/98 and returning 2/24/or 2/25/98. We have great fares to help you enjoy the weekend. Relax on the beaches of San Diego, or stroll the world class shopping district in Milan. On to this week's Trans World Specials. Roundtrip fare: From: To: $248 New York (JFK) Milan(MXP) Out International fare is valid FROM New York TO Milan only. As usual, Domestic fares may originate in either city. Roundtrip fare: To/From: $69 St. Louis, MO (STL) / Nashville, TN (BNA) $69 St. Louis, MO (STL) / Cedar Rapids, IA (CID) $69 St. Louis, MO (STL) / Dayton, OH (DAY) $79 St. Louis, MO (STL) / Oklahoma City, OK (OKC) $79 St. Louis, MO (STL) / Shreveport, LA (SHV) $79 St. Louis, MO (STL) / Knoxville, TN (TYS) $79 Nashville, TN (BNA) / Cedar Rapids, IA (CID) $99 Nashville, TN (BNA) / Oklahoma City, OK (OKC) $129 Cedar Rapids, IA (CID) / Ontario, CA (ONT) $129 Newark, NJ (EWR) / Cedar Rapids, IA (CID) $129 Newark, NJ (EWR) / Oklahoma City, OK (OKC) $129 Newark, NJ (EWR) / Shreveport, LA (SHV) $129 Newark, NJ (EWR) / St. Louis, MO (STL) $129 Oklahoma City, OK (OKC) / Dayton, OH (DAY) $159 Dayton, OH (DAY) / Ontario, CA (ONT) $159 Dayton, OH (DAY) / San Diego, CA (SAN) $159 St. Louis, MO (STL) / Ontario, CA (ONT) $159 St. Louis, MO (STL) / San Diego, CA (SAN) $159 Ontario, CA (ONT) / Shreveport, LA (SHV) Call TWA at 1-800-221-2000 and book your Trans World Special today ! ***********************************GETAWAY VACATIONS******************** HAWAII OUTRIGGER MAILE SKY COURT INCLUDES: - roundtrip economy airfare - 5 nights accommodations at the Maile Sky Court - all rooms have refrigerator, cable TV and in-room movies - hotel features T.G.I. 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Rates valid for rentals commencing on Saturday and ending by 11:59 PM on Tuesday. Rates only valid during week in which they are published via TWA Internet site. A 24-hour advance reservation is required. Availability is limited. Hotel Conditions: Hilton Hotels and Resorts special rates are available only during the specific week in which they are published via the TWA Hot Deals Internet site and the HiltonNet Internet site. Limited availability; rooms at these Hilton Value Rates are sold on a first-come, first-served basis. Availability, rate, and terms of occupancy are not guaranteed and will be confirmed at time of reservation. Participating hotels, rates and terms are subject to change without notice. Single or double occupancy. Early check-in, late check-out subject to availability. No extra charge for children when they stay in parents' or grandparents' room; total room occupancy subject to local fire safety regulations and other applicable laws or regulations. Rates vary by season, do not include any other fees or charges, including without limitation state or local taxes or gratuities and are subject to change without notice. Advance booking required. Advance deposit may be required. Offer cannot be combined with any other special discounts, coupons, certificates, special rates, promotional offers, award stays, or meeting/group stays. Hilton reserves the right to cancel any Hilton Value Rate at any time without notice. Hilton is not responsible for the terms of other offers in the program, or for any electronic, computer, telephone, security, virus or any other problem or damage related to use of the program or its offers. For reservations call 1-800-221-2000 (domestic) or 1-800-892-4141 (international) or call your travel agent and ask for TWA's special Internet fares. Remember to ask for Trans World® Electronic Ticketing when you book your special Internet fare!

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Re: Downsizing the NSA
by Karl A. Siil 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:18 PM 1/28/96 EST, Dr. Dimitri Vulis wrote: >I went to a talk by Andy Koenig a few weeks ago and he claimed that even >though AT&T is laying off people (and splitting) they're still hiring every >internet/security person they could find. I don't know if this is tacky or politically incorrect for this list (so I'll keep it short), ... Speaking for my security group, this is correct. Anyone interested is urged to send me private e-mail. Karl

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail, which is available at: ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/premail/premail-0.33a.tar.gz For the PGP public keys of the remailers, finger pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{"extropia"} = "<remail(a)extropia.wimsey.com> cpunk pgp special"; $remailer{"portal"} = "<hfinney(a)shell.portal.com> cpunk pgp hash"; $remailer{"alumni"} = "<hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu> cpunk pgp hash"; $remailer{"bsu-cs"} = "<nowhere(a)bsu-cs.bsu.edu> cpunk hash ksub"; $remailer{"c2"} = "<remail(a)c2.org> eric pgp hash reord"; $remailer{"penet"} = "<anon(a)anon.penet.fi> penet post"; $remailer{"ideath"} = "<remailer(a)ideath.goldenbear.com> cpunk hash ksub reord"; $remailer{"hacktic"} = "<remailer(a)utopia.hacktic.nl> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{"flame"} = "<remailer(a)flame.alias.net> cpunk mix pgp. hash latent cut post reord"; $remailer{"rahul"} = "<homer(a)rahul.net> cpunk pgp hash filter"; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord ?"; $remailer{"ford"} = "<remailer(a)bi-node.zerberus.de> cpunk pgp hash ksub ek"; $remailer{"hroller"} = "<hroller(a)c2.org> cpunk pgp hash latent ek"; $remailer{"vishnu"} = "<mixmaster(a)vishnu.alias.net> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord"; $remailer{"robo"} = "<robo(a)c2.org> cpunk hash mix"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{"spook"} = "<remailer(a)valhalla.phoenix.net> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek reord"; $remailer{"rmadillo"} = "<remailer(a)armadillo.com> mix cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"ecafe"} = "<cpunk(a)remail.ecafe.org> cpunk mix"; $remailer{"wmono"} = "<wmono(a)valhalla.phoenix.net> cpunk mix pgp. hash latent cut"; $remailer{"shinobi"} = "<remailer(a)shinobi.alias.net> cpunk mix hash latent cut ek reord"; $remailer{"amnesia"} = "<amnesia(a)chardos.connix.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub"; $remailer{"gondolin"} = "<mix(a)remail.gondolin.org> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek reord"; $remailer{"tjava"} = "<remailer(a)tjava.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut"; $remailer{"pamphlet"} = "<pamphlet(a)idiom.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ?"; $remailer{'alpha'} = '<alias(a)alpha.c2.org> alpha pgp'; $remailer{'gondonym'} = '<alias(a)nym.gondolin.org> alpha pgp'; $remailer{'nymrod'} = '<nymrod(a)nym.alias.net> alpha pgp'; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. Groups of remailers sharing a machine or operator: (c2 robo hroller alpha) (gondolin gondonym) (flame hacktic replay) (alumni portal) (vishnu spook wmono) Use "premail -getkeys pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu" to get PGP keys for the remailers. Fingering this address works too. Note: The remailer list now includes information for the alpha nymserver. Last update: Mon 29 Jan 96 6:45:43 PST remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- nymrod nymrod(a)nym.alias.net *+***+* 10:20 99.99% pamphlet pamphlet(a)idiom.com +-++++++++++ 44:43 99.99% ecafe cpunk(a)remail.ecafe.org #####*###*## 6:24 99.98% c2 remail(a)c2.org +**+******** 16:42 99.96% flame remailer(a)flame.alias.net ++-++++--+++ 2:20:51 99.96% ford remailer(a)bi-node.zerberus.de -+___.-+--++ 13:18:57 99.96% tjava remailer(a)tjava.com ** ###-*#### 3:55 99.94% alpha alias(a)alpha.c2.org #**** ****** 3:33 99.89% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com -------++-+ 1:34:41 99.83% alumni hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu *#+ *+*+-+## 17:44 99.82% portal hfinney(a)shell.portal.com *## # #*#+*# 2:10 99.72% hroller hroller(a)c2.org ############ :31 99.53% penet anon(a)anon.penet.fi .__--.._ .- 27:57:50 97.03% shinobi remailer(a)shinobi.alias.net + #+### #### 2:06:45 94.21% extropia remail(a)extropia.wimsey.com ...-_.-_. 24:28:54 92.68% rahul homer(a)rahul.net *+***--** ## 17:20 99.69% vishnu mixmaster(a)vishnu.alias.net +**** +*+* 14:48 83.47% replay remailer(a)replay.com ** 6:00 56.93% hacktic remailer(a)utopia.hacktic.nl ** 8:12 55.13% bsu-cs nowhere(a)bsu-cs.bsu.edu * 8:49 8.99% History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien

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CAN WE SWAP LINKS? ******************Please DO NOT consider this SPAM!******************
by mark＠mtcnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Letter of the law
by rdew＠el.nec.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ken, I guess I was thinking about the NSA, recording the message and deciding to make an example. They seem to do that occassionally just to keep the rest of us folks 'in line'. I can't see the INS even understanding what they were looking at, even if you showed them. "My, my, my! All those bits are really in that little box?" You have to understand the difference between a 'large possibility' and a 'fat chance', yes? Now, drugs! That they understand ... But a PKI key? Or, a file?? Or, a crypto program (especially renamed)??? What piece of this trick question am I missing? Bob De Witt, rdew(a)el.nec.com The views expressed herein are my own, and are not attributable to any other source, be it employer, friend or foe. > From jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu Tue Feb 17 10:56:22 1998 > X-Authentication-Warning: c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu: jkwilli2 owned process doing -bs > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:56:29 -0500 (EST) > From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu> > X-Sender: jkwilli2(a)c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu > To: Bob De Witt <rdew(a)el.nec.com> > cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: Letter of the law > X-Copyright: The contents of this message may not be reproduced in any form > X-Copyright: (including Commercial use) unless specific permission is granted > X-Copyright: by the author of the message. All requests must be in writing. > X-Disclaimer: The contents of this email are for educational purposes only > X-Disclaimer: and do not reflect the thoughts or opinions of either myself > X-Disclaimer: or my employer and are not endorsed by sponsored by or provided > X-Disclaimer: on behalf of North Carolina State University. > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Bob De Witt wrote: > > >Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute > >an act of export?? > > well, yes, of course. that was taken for granted in my comments. > likewise, if you go to a tattoo parlor and get the infamous 4 line > crypto-sig tattooed on your ass, then you are classified as a munition, > and you cannot leave the US. > > the only relevant question here regards the odds that a US Customs officer > is going to want you to drop your drawers and bend over... > ;-) > > ken > > >> >>I'm in El Paso Texas... so close to the border > >> >>I can see Old Mex outside my window as I write this.. > >> >>I'm over there nearly every day for lunch ( I actually > >> >>walk there from my house it's so close) If I write > >> >>a crypto program on my laptop over there and ftp > >> >>it to a web page I have on a server outside the US > >> >>will I have avoided the foolish export regs?? > >> >>Does anyone know of someone trying this before?? > >> > > >> >My guess is this: > >> > if it has the name of a US citizen in the copyright > >> >notice, it will be assumed to have been made in the > >> >US. if the morons even go after you. you still may have > >> >a plausable excuse if ever taken to court. > >> >after all, you "exported" youself, which is a perfectly > >> >legal thing to take out of the country, and "yourself" > >> >accidentally spewed a copy of something that couldn't > >> >cross the border. > >> >I don't think anybody has tried this and been challenged. > >> >then again, a lot of us don't have the opportunity. > >> >It's easier to ask forgivness than permission... > >> >Another easier excuse would be to publish it freely in > >> >hardcopy form, and just "happen" to have somebody end up > >> >"typing" in your source code abroad, making a legit > >> >international copy... > >> >-Anon2 > >> > >> i would think that the big question here, legally, is whether or not you > >> would be ustilizing a US ISP and/or cellular provider to make the upload > >> of the crypto program to the foreign server via ftp. as long as all the > >> packets stay outside of US borders, in other words, as long as you don't > >> use a US ISP and cellular provider, then i don't see how you would be > >> violating any laws in this case. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> TATTOOMAN > >> > >> http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ > >> > >Bob De Witt, > >rdew(a)el.nec.com > >The views expressed herein are my own, > >and are not attributable to any other > >source, be it employer, friend or foe. > > > > > > TATTOOMAN > > /--------------------------[ TATTOOMAN ]--------------------------\ > | ORG: NC State Computer Science Dept VP of The E. H. A. P. Corp. | > | EML: jkwilli2(a)adm.csc.ncsu.edu ehap(a)hackers.com | > | EML: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu ehap-secure(a)hackers.com | > | WWW: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/ http://www.hackers.com/ehap/ | > | FTP: ftp://152.7.11.38/pub/personal/tattooman/ | > | W3B: http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/w3board/ | > | PGP: finger tattooman(a)152.7.11.38 | > \----------------[ http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ ]----------------/ > > >

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Re: Downsizing the NSA
by wlkngowl＠unix.asb.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 28 Jan 1996 02:04:52 -0800, Tim wrote: [..] >However, as Phill notes, the NSA and other intelligence agencies are now in >that most dangerous of positions: a powerful agency or department casting >about for something to do. >Spying on citizens and keeping the keys to their private communications and >diaries is not an appropriate option. >AT&T is downsizing, IBM downsized a while back, so why couldn't the NSA >just do the right thing: admit that the Soviet threat is no more, >congratulate the victors, and downsize by 20,000 employees? Perhaps they are worried about the implications of putting thousands of cryptographers into the private sector? And what if you were one of them? You'd probably have a hard time using or publishing anything classified. Not to mention the usual governmental conflict-of-interest work rules (for low-level employees the standards of who you can work for after leaving the government is a lot stricter than if you were a cabinet member). Just a thought.

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Slip over non-slip ports
by fc＠all.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(please respond directly to fc(a)all.net and not to the list) I am looking for a way to run slip over a telnet connection on a local Ethernet. Does anyone know of any freely available software that allows me to start a SLIP connection over a telnet channel? -> See: Info-Sec Heaven at URL http://all.net/ Management Analytics - 216-686-0090 - PO Box 1480, Hudson, OH 44236

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Of course. My signature was bad. I got a message in response to a request I made to someone for their public key. I wanted to check the signatures that they included with their posts to cypherpunks, but their key was not on the keyservers. The key they included was completely unsigned, and when I use it to validate their previous posts as well as the message they sent which included the key, the signatures come back as bad, the contents of the file changed. Names are appropriately withheld (I hope). As I understand the bcc: definition, only I and the first smtp server this message hits should know who it's to. I don't know if anyone else reading this mailing list needs this info, but just in case... here's my reply to the message. At 10:03 PM 1/28/96 -0800, you wrote: >Sorry, I'm a newbie to Internet, and also the Internet usage of PGP. I just >participated in a local keysigning meeting, so maybe my key will find its >way to a server. Don't worry about being a 'newbie'. Everyone starts somewhere. However, your key will usually not 'find its way' to a server without you specifically sending it. The keyserver I usually use is accessed by sending a mail message which fits the following format. As far as I know, all the keyservers use this format to add or update keys in their databases. You only have to send it to one keyserver, and it will propagate to all the others. I have indented the text so that no handlers decide to interpret it as a new message. - - To: pgp-public-keys(a)pgp.iastate.edu - - Subject: ADD - - - - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- - - Version: 2.6.2 - - - - [key deleted to protect the innocent] - - - - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >I'm sorry to have to admit that I don't even know how to do this! Newbie >alert! If you don't admit you don't know something, nobody will usually tell you how to do it. Also, you should sign your own key. That will make it harder to forge, I think. The reasons were spelled out in a couple of the web pages I read, but I've forgotten them. It has something to do with either a denial of service attack or a man in the middle attack, or both. The command to do this is: pgp -ks 0xHEXKEYID Honestly, I've only just begun to use pgp myself. Also, you should add your e-mail address to the user-id of your key. The command to do so is: pgp -ke 0xHEXKEYID You will be asked if you wish to add a user id to the key. Say yes, and give it your e-mail address. What this does is it allows people who are using pgp-enabled mailers to directly encrypt messages to you without choosing your key manually. The reason that I have not encrypted this message to you using the key you provided is that when I extracted the key and re-checked your message, the signature was no good. I've found that (using eudora) I must turn off the word wrap feature of my mailer to allow for good signed messages out. Of course, having said this, I'll probably not get a good signature on this message. Let me know if it signs ok. Now, I have a question. Which attack(s) is/are a person vulnerable to when distributing an unsigned public key in the open? Could this actually be a complex man-in-the-middle attack? Am I paranoid? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMQzROLTS4SjerN/RAQGLNwP8DMXP1BLdeygfEaBF//lYZHkxWGFaFx9L R59KJQ/VaYVU/Q17bFDhXyCztu2IRlzLhBqno+5uHsZTL01M3D1dyXGDBvlxY+FB kNaClKzeXYqA3Or7Ny2mcgyZW/bGXA6v3Z+RQgDuVrXsJz5wGP/UxBU3Ppr05+qL i+5KB2efLxA= =iXlS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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