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Re: Report from Germany on "backdoor" net-censorship
by jaed＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:10 PM 6/9/96, Ulf Moeller wrote: >Furthermore, sample news articles will be suject to detailed legal >evaluation. Should this result in suspicion or proof of transportation >of illegal contents, the ICTF can launch various steps to work against >propagation of these contents. For example, it can arrange for >blocking of complete newsgroups or retrospect "Cancel" of articles >already transmitted. Um. Does this ICTF understand the implications of sending forged cancel messages outside its own server, when the cancels are based strictly on disapproval of the content? Do they realize what the consequences will be for carriage of traffic from their node? Is Germany about to become known as "Cancelbunny Nation"? >Internet Media Counsil presents fist measurements for Voluntary >Self-Control This is a wonderful type in the fifth word above... ;-) -- The Internet interprets the US Congress as system damage and routes around it. - with apologies to John Gilmore

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Re: Gore opposes unwarranted'' Internet censorship
by shabbir＠vtw.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We should not cut the Administration slack on the basis of some carefully spun comment by Al Gore's handlers. We're going to win this one for ourselves. The fact that the White House has begun the process of backing away from their own case through ol' Al should not, and will not, change my mind. If you're going to give them credit for anything, give them credit for directing the Justice dept. to state that they were opposed to Exon's ideas very early on in the game. (even if that position became amazingly low profile when faced with the certainty of the rest of the telecomm bill) -Shabbir J. Safdar * Online Representative * Voters Telecomm. Watch (VTW) http://www.vtw.org/ * Defending Your Rights In Cyberspace Mike McNally writes: >Joseph M. Reagle Jr. wrote: >> >> Sounds good but I had to laugh when I heard it... is he at odds with >> other members of the administration, or is this rhetoric? > >Good cop, bad cop. > >______c_____________________________________________________________________ >Mike M Nally * Tiv^H^H^H IBM * Austin TX * pain is inevitable > m5(a)tivoli.com * m101(a)io.com * > <URL:http://www.io.com/~m101> * suffering is optional

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New Encryption Algorithm and Program
by Benjamin Grosman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello there everyone subscribing to this mailing list... My name is Benjamin Grosman and I am a 17 year old student from Sydney, Australia...but please, don't hold any of that against me :) Anyway, for my major assignment I wrote an encryption program under Turbo Pascal for Dos, version 7.0, and for this program I developed the algorithm myself... Now, what I am wodnering is, is there anyone on this list who might be interested in testing my program, and or analyisng the strength of the encryption and reporting there findings back to me? The more people who are knowledgeable in the field of encryption who want to have a look, the better, so please, don't hesitate, as I would really appreciate all input.... As you all might have guessed, I am definitely pro-encryption. I have some particularly malicious "friends" who go to great pains to find out what you typed in your latest assignments...before they are due...and so I have undertaken this project out of necessity as much as interest, and I find the US governments ban on the exportation of cypher technology and knowledge a great burden on the academic community in their efforts to further their knowledge...but please don't sledge me for my views, just please respond to: bgrosman(a)healey.com.au if you are interested in obtaining a copy of my program... Many thanks.... Ben

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Re: [SF Bay Area] Internet security course at Stanford
by bogdan＠ljextra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > >Seen on the net: > > >The Western Institute of Computer Science announces >a week-long course on > >INTERNET SECURITY > >taught at Stanford University > >July 29 -- August 2, 1996 > >Course Fee: > $1,450 (includes instruction, complete set of course notes, > break refreshments, and Tuesday night reception.) > $1,575 for registration after July 15 Any guys from this list are gonna take a class for $1500??

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Re: Terrorism Hysteria on the Net
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:21 PM 6/10/96 -0500, snow wrote: >On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, John Young wrote: > >> "You bring me a select group of hackers and within 90 days I'll bring this >> country to its knees, " says Jim Settle, retired director of the FBI's >> computer crime squad. > > Give me 15 well trained soldiers(near special forces level) and I >can do it in less than 60 days. Without touching a computer. > There was a blue print published by Omni Magazine in the mid to >late 80's written by Henry Kissinger (IIRC). > Give me 15 McVey's with the ability to follow orders and I'll have >this country in chaos in 2 weeks. > > It isn't that hard, it is just that almost everyone prefers the >current system to total death & destruction chaos that follows a strong >government collapsing. Doesn't this statement represent something of a bias in favor of today's system? Is the "total death and destruction chaos" a function of the collapse of that strong government, or the immediate tendency of it to be replaced with dictator wannabes? In other words, if a "strong government" could be brought down with a guarantee that nobody would be able to even begin to replace it, might that not be an entirely different matter? >Society holds itself together in large part not >because of the rule of law, but becaue most people want it to. Doesn't this statement contradict the previous statement you made? If there's "chaos" perhaps that's merely because a small group of people is trying to take control. Most people want peace, but it can be disturbed by a minority. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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[NOISE] "Fascism is corporatism"
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:44 AM 6/9/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: > All you're doing is blathering on with some > anti-intellectual lumpenlibertarian claptrap that tries to smear anything > you disagree with as tantamount to fascism. > > [...] > > Heidegger only really supported Nazism from 1933-34; in the 40's and > thereafter, he referred to Nazism as a disease. > > [...] > > any attempt to smear them as a bunch of Nazis is ludicrous > > [...] > > Your foaming-mouth projections on people who disagree with you are > laughable. During the war Heidegger wore full Nazi regalia, and compelled his students to participate in fascist rallies which he led. He consistently claimed that his philosophy led logically to fascism. See "A normal Nazi" by Thomas Sheehan, in the New York Review of Books, early 1993. Also in the same journal see a dozen of the leading lights of the academic left enthusiastically supporting a murderous Nazi and the ideas that he loudly proclaimed were fascist ideas. You revised history in favor of a couple of fascist philosophers, one of whom sent one of his former teacher to one of Hitler's concentration camps. See the following URLs for the real history. http://www.wavefront.com/~contra_m/cm/reviews/cm13_rev_heidegger.html http://www.inlink.com/~dhchase/heidig.htm You also revised history in favor of a system of ideas that has in the past been used to justify and organize the deaths of millions of people, and which has recently in America been used to justify and organize mild but widespread repression, (including the PC laws that you recently denied existed), the system of ideas that many people reasonably argue has been recently been used to justify and organize the narrowly focused severe repression, including government murder of women and children, that we have recently seen in America (which you recently denied was the intended outcome of government policy). And *you* are calling *me* an extremist. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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InfoWar and a.r.s
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems to me we are seeing an example of Information Warfare in the doings around alt.religion.scientology. The board game "Go" models warfare by having a goal of controlling territory. In the a.r.s war, we see the combatants trying to control the newsgroup. We even see an arms race with weapons such as cancelbots being developed and employed. The major difference between newsgroup war and conventional war is that the dimension a victor needs to control is time and not space. One question to ponder is whether the a.r.s war will perform the same role as the Spanish Civil War vs. WW2. Will we see newsgroup war expand to other news groups? I would think a few of the .culture.* groups could be candidates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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New type2.list/pubring.mix (revisited)
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Everyone, The corrected (downed remailers deleted) type2.list/pubring.mix combination is available on jpunix.com. This list now contains only remailers that have responded to pings sent out by myself and by Raph. I'll automate this shortly to insure that the remailers on the list actually respond to traffic. Apologies to ecafe for saying it was down. It was poor eysight on my part. John Perry - perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCUAwUBMb1PQ1OTpEThrthvAQHn7gP4rHjupKUM4hWPsbFIxdXWk09KdEZLbpK3 uumHpAlApXfu7n9umOG1evxp9SRy9yUg3PvtV5pHtMGcebv8ngpQEzDekC55RCBz Rghon7Rqknte+9eRbpbqhq1e/LAzebxwJv+vRSOkYEOmiq6KWdhQ0LZyGjV1VfHA D/eWCOf2ig== =w/xe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: lambda 2.08 (1/2) - Surveillance du contenu : l'oeil biais_
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 10 Jun 96 at 19:08, Jerome Thorel wrote: > DANS LE NUMERO --> 2.08 <-- du bulletin lambda > http://www.freenix.fr/netizen/ <snip> > - Les agents, lors des PV, ne signent plus par leur nom, mais par > des numeros d'immatriculation, a remarque la revue Chroniques Bonjour Jerome! Que signifie PV? Traduction libre par: / non-official translation by: jf_avon(a)citenet.net ... The agents, during PVs(?), are not signing with their own names anymore but with an ID number, pointed out "Chroniques" magazine... La version anglaise de ce texte a-t-elle ete envoye a cypherpunks(a)toad.com? Si non, pourriez-vous l'y envoyer. Aussi, en faire parvenir une copie anglaise a jimbell(a)pacifier.com, ca sera du plus grand interet pour lui. Salutations JFA DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee; Limoges porcelain, silverware and crystal JFA Technologies, R&D consultants: physicists, technologists and engineers. PGP keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891

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USS_hit
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

6-11-96. FiTi: "US squares up to cyberterrorists." Until recently, the concept of "information warfare" has been widely dismissed as alarmist rhetoric and viewed as "post Cold War hysteria" generated by those with an interest in maintaining the vast US intelligence apparatus. But the potential use of computer networks to undermine public confidence, disrupt essential services, play havoc with the economy or damage military capabilities is now being taken seriously in Washington. Encryption may be just one of many battlegrounds -- others include: proposals for mandatory reporting of corporate computer intrusions and for exceptions to US laws that prohibit intelligence agencies from snooping on domestic communications; the forthcoming ruling by US courts on free speech on the Internet, in response to laws aimed at stopping distribution of pornographic material; and possible limits on information that marketers may gather and use about children who surf the Internet. Also the Clinton administration is planning a rapid-response team to take charge in the event of a cyberterrorist attack. USS_hit

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