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Re: Penet-style web remailer?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:17 PM 5/8/96 EDT, "E. ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH(a)ocelot.Rutgers.EDU> wrote: > As a result of scanning through the Nando Times' > (http://www.nando.net/nt/) Infotech section, I came across a piece on email > with the following address: http://noah.pair.com/anon.html. It appears to > be sort of a penet-style anonymous remailer, only without return messages. > Anyone know anything else about it? Of course, given the number of web > interfaces to fully anonymous remailers, I wouldn't encourage anyone > to use it. Well, if you look at the remailer part of the web page, it's just one of many web pages that are a form interface to a remailer CGI program. Basically a friendly way to use a standard 1-way Cypherpunks remailer. The guts of the page (from View Source) are use replay's CGI and the ecafe remailer: <form method="post" action="http://www.replay.com/cgi-bin/anon.exe"> <input type="hidden" name="remailers" value="cpunk(a)remail.ecafe.org"> <table border=2> <tr><td align=right> to: <input size=20 type=text name="to" value=""><br> subject: <input size=20 type=text name="subject" value=""></td> <td align=center><input type="submit" value="send mail"></td></tr> <tr><td align=center colspan=2> <textarea name="message" rows=12 cols=70 value="test"> Put your message here.</textarea> </td> </tr> </table> </form> There is an amusing stealthed message at the bottom of the page, designed to attract high relevancy ratings from spiders..... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Re: Hacktic remailer shutdown
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-rich sez: : > Is there any information available on why the Hacktic remailer was shut : > down? : Church of Scientology. Someone posted too many Secret Scriptures, it : seems. The details, nobody has shared. Conspiracy theories, galore, but I : have faith in their judgement and commitment to free speech and anonymity. : I'm sure it was a tough decision. : Btw, I don't believe it has shut down yet. Rather, the operators announced : that due to "recent events," there would be a planned shutdown on May : 20th. : I *would* like to know if the mail2news gateway is going down in addition : to the remailer. I'm assuming that it is. utopia.hacktic.nl is currently MX'ed to basement.replay.com, and the mail2news gateway has been installed there to. mail2news(a)utopia.hacktic.nl will work as long as utopia is MX'ed so one better use the one installed directly by mailing your posts to mail2news(a)basement.replay.com. bEST Regards, -- -AJ-

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Re: Mandatory Voluntary Self-Ratings
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:58 PM 5/9/96 -0700, you wrote: >For every proposed "ratings" system that involves value judgments about who >should see something, I can think of examples where a quite opposite view >is held. Yes, but it is possible to have "descriptive" systems. Of course, to make them easy, things are aggregated into groups, and these groupings have a value judgement. But it is possible to have rating systems that don't tell you diddley about who sees it. _______________________ Regards, Men govern nothing with more difficulty than their tongues, and can moderate their desires more than their words. -Spinoza Joseph Reagle http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E

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Re: distinctive properties of ecash, netbill, cybercash and iKP
by Jüri Kaljundi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sat, 11 May 1996, Jon Moore wrote: > Bert-Jan said: > > >=B7 Monetary value: it must be backed by either cash (currency), bank > >authorized credit, or a bank-certified cashier's check, so that it is > >easily accepted by others. > > The banks/cash-issuing corporations are likely to support anything > that is secure enough, and looks like a runner, because any e-money > scheme is profitable to them (they earn interest on the > corresponding real cash while the e-money is in circulation). This is one question why the central bank in Estonia (I am not sure about other countries) does not allow issuing e-cash here in Estonia. While the banks issue e-cash to people, they get some real cash from people. This leads to actually doubleing the money in circulation, each monetary unit, either dollar or kroon, can at the same time be used by owner of e-cash and at the same time by the bank. The central banks are afraid that when the amount of e-cash in circulation gets big, this could lead to devalvation of money, especially a small country like Estonia is afraid of such development. Anonymity of monetary transactions is another thing that Bank of Estonia has declared illegal. Juri Kaljundi jk(a)stallion.ee AS Stallion

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Re: Publicity on PICS
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Whoops... I misread the press release from the ACLU. The judges haven't made such a decision yet, unfortunately. Sorry. -Allen

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Re: Penet-style web remailer?
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com" "Bill Stewart" 11-MAY-1996 06:53:43.98 >Well, if you look at the remailer part of the web page, it's just >one of many web pages that are a form interface to a remailer CGI program. >Basically a friendly way to use a standard 1-way Cypherpunks remailer. Yes... but he does appear to keep track of the log file; he had up the name of someone who allegedly misused it a few days ago. He states: "If this remailer is used for something illegal, it can be traced. Also, if people use it to insult me, I will probably want to look in the logs and find out who it is!" >There is an amusing stealthed message at the bottom of the page, >designed to attract high relevancy ratings from spiders..... Have people never heard of the "keyword" meta header? -Allen

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Re: Publicity on PICS
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"reagle(a)mit.edu" "Joseph M. Reagle Jr." 10-MAY-1996 02:18:58.44 >From: IN%"EALLENSMITH(a)mbcl.rutgers.edu" "E. ALLEN SMITH" > It is _very_ confusing to follow though. >>CompuServe, Microsoft, Prodigy and Netscape Communications will soon give >>their customers software enabling them to block access to material they >>judge objectionable on the Internet's Worldwide Web. > Consider that Compuserve had a deal with SurfWatch, which was >incorporated in it "Internet" in a box, with a lot of Spry goodies. Now >Surfwatch has been purchased by Spyglass (a competitor or Spry). Also, >Compuserve offers RSACi services through CyberPatrols RSACi compliance (got >some weird derivitive and cross-liscencing works going on here!) and urges >its users and 3rd party people to use RSACi... I don't suppose that someone at Netscape can give us more information on this than is currently out there? All we've seen so far are the press reports, which are often inaccurate. -Allen

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Re: Again: [hrdware] anti-Tempest video settings
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 12 May 96 at 13:51, Julian Assange wrote: <technical tips snipped> > Equipment > capable of the latter would be extremely complicated and expensive > to design and produce; Even too expensive for entities with the power of taxation? > I suspect there has been no call for it to > date, given that if you are dealing with a target who understands > the risks of van-eck they usually have shielding and or a faraday > cage. You have a point for big outfits. But for small companies or cypherpunks on a restricted budget, they also know that there is most likely *no* shielding of any sort... Regards jfa Why is it that govt employees makes the best spouses? Because after they come back from work, they are not tired and they already read the newspapers. PGP key ID# C58ADD0D at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon Key Fingerprint: 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 Unsollicited commercial e-mail will be proofread at US165 $/h Any sender of such material will be considered as to have ac- cepted the above mentionned terms.

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Again: [hrdware] anti-Tempest video settings
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> It won't make any diifference to the potential attacker. > His aim is to recover the text/shapes of what you are displaying. He > is not generally concerned with the "niceness" of the display, but > rather the contents. But of course. But what I want to know is: is there some combination of display colors that will be visible for the eye, but not for the Tempest equipment? > Also, many guns - red, blue, green actually do > radiate on slightly different frequencies, allowing differentiation > of signals - due to the slightly different physical geometry of the > guns themselves. That might answer it. I suppose that if some "stealth" settings exists, they are highly hardware dependent. My question was not "would it work in all instances?" but rather "had this tactic been implemented successfully in *some* instances?" Or, to the contrary, is it reasonable to assume that modern Tempest equipment can work around theses impediments almost all of the time, therefore making any attempts at this futile? Regards JFA PGP key ID# C58ADD0D at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon Key Fingerprint: 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 Unsollicited commercial e-mail will be proofread at US165 $/h Any sender of such material will be considered as to have ac- cepted the above mentionned terms.

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Re: distinctive properties of ecash, netbill, cybercash and iKP
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 16:40 5/11/96, Jüri Kaljundi wrote: >This is one question why the central bank in Estonia (I am not sure about >other countries) does not allow issuing e-cash here in Estonia. While the >banks issue e-cash to people, they get some real cash from people. This >leads to actually doubleing the money in circulation, each monetary unit, >either dollar or kroon, can at the same time be used by owner of e-cash >and at the same time by the bank. The central banks are afraid that when >the amount of e-cash in circulation gets big, this could lead to >devalvation of money, especially a small country like Estonia is afraid of >such development. That's simply silly. The same argument would hold true for travelers checks. Are Estonian banks allowed to issue them? I thought so. Disclaimer: My opinions are my own, not those of my employer. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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