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Re:The Value of Money
by trestrab＠GVSU.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert Hettinga writes: > GRABOW_GEOFFREY(a)tandem.com asked: > >>Didn't Nixon take the U.S. off of the gold standard? >> >I believe Nixon made two changes. First, he decoupled the dollar from >the price of gold, thus making the dollar more explicitly a >part of the floating exchange rate mechanism (or more so, >anyway). Second, he started making it legal for americans >to own gold again, something FDR outlawed during the >depression. The US$ was devalued from $35 to $38 /oz gold and the Treasury stopped redeeming dollars from anyone other than central banks in '69. This created a two tier market. The US devalued again in '70 (0r '71) to $45 /oz, and then threw in the towel and stopped backing the currency with anything other than "the full faith and credit of the US government" [:)]. US citizens were permitted to own gold bullion again as of Jan '75, under Ford. Jeff trestrab(a)gvsu.edu

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re: one time pad plus
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ben replies; >Ok, I'm new to this crypto bit so I probably will have more >mistakes here than correct answers. Anyways I'm going to give a >shot. >1)If you have the secure channel(sneakernet) that you have to >re-init each time you use th eone time pad, then this will be most >likely a novelty, since Lousie could have slipped Thelma the >plaintext when she slipped her the pad. >2)If you're using a pad like this, if I'm not mistaken isn't this >what Kahn calls a 'book cipher' where it would be simpler to crack >than a true one time pad that is truly random. >3)Thelma could have used stenographic technology to send the same >information, she could have used faxes that when decoded could >yield a message(kinda like the old punch cards) >Anyways, this is just the view of a complete rank amateur. Give >me feedback y'all. Thanks for your comments Ben. Yes this does suffer from all the same problems of a classic one time pad. (pad exchange etc) Obviously Thelma and Louise should have exchanged mutiple pads well in advance,(and are co-conspirators) and the "pseudorandom pad" E would be exchanged through an alternate path (intercompany mail,sneakernet,messenger,etc). The part I find fun is that assuming random file B is truly random, say from an RS232 "crypto-dongle" (if anyone builds them, count me in!) then ciphertext file C is unbreakable, It dosen't matter if E is random or not, C is still unbreakable, and using E to decrypt will only produce D. This was not intended as a cure all, just an interesting application of cryptography that has interesting effects in the world of corporate politics as well. One small step for cypherpunks..... Brian Williams Extropian Cypherpatriot "Cryptocosmology: Sufficently advanced comunication is indistinguishable from noise." --Steve Witham "Have you ever had your phones tapped by the government? YOU WILL and the company that'll bring it to you.... AT&T" --James Speth -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLckIjNCcBnAsu2t1AQEubAP7B3t3cIiUkZXESOA53OMcXbpdLnu7qZXf Z+Q7tFC9kzYL9+weGXHVC2aEnjsjDUbxEYHgz4vw+T9fBdFr2g2RcQqM36+dKee+ BfuOtwKY4UCKtjw8W/BETaUpK2aNjeO2pXBdrzVpZHXu6xyM2n2QFmm4GiUDYPO9 xdzq0JcVH4U= =oPn1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Anonymous phone calls.
by dmandl＠lehman.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Duncan Frissell <frissell(a)panix.com> > "Why did William Jefferson Blythe Clinton accept a Rhodes scholarship when > women (and non Commonwealth citizens) were excluded from same? Sounds like a > racist, sexist, bigoted, and (for all we know) homophobic act to me." Current theory here in Brooklyn: Freemasonic/Trilateral/Illuminati connections (you know about Cecil Rhodes, right?). Looks like Willy was groomed for his present assignment from an early age. This is as good a time as any to post the following, which is not much less relevant to cypherpunk issues than a lot of other recent threads. And it's hilarious. As mentioned above, though, our current theory is slightly different. Enjoy. --Dave. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Impeach Clinton --------------- by Rev. P. Lamborn-Wilson, M.O.C., U.L.C., etc., etc., The Deanery, Chatsworth, NJ Feb. 14, 1994 (no copyright--please reproduce freely) Clinton first came to the attention of the ILLUMINATI when he saved the asses of Grand Master Oliver North & Past Master G. Bush (the Freemasonic Messiah) by quashing the investigation into Mena Airport in Arkansas. We can use this cracker, they thought. Another Southern Democrat whose name starts with "C." The Konspiracy may have to lay low for four years & this yuppie redneck'll fill the Bill. Sure enough, Bush loses it--bigtime--openly proclaims the Novus Ordo Seclorum--bombs Babylon in a vain attempt to destroy Illuminati archives--etc., etc. The CFR/Bilderbergers declare:--Bush must "lose." The Pres. of Japan (an inner-circle member) dons his special Medici-ring & sits next to Bush at sushi-time:--the whole world gawks as Bush pukes in the lap of this unsmiling samurai--Who's losing face? Who's losing _lunch_? ///// Lloyd Bensen (32-degree) takes hick Clinton to Bilderberg Konklave in Baden-Baden 6 months before the "election." Ushered into the inner sanctum Clinton hears the Offer from a hooded figure mit a Cherman accent und Harvard manners. "Look, Bill, all zis can be yours: real estate, blow-chobs, Sviss bank account, revenche, your name in 'History.' All you haff to do is serve Us for four years. Betray 'Liberalism' for four years. Stab in the back all those minorities who will vote you in:--Blacks, queers, women, the poor. Always you vill say 'compromise'--but holding a dagger in your schleeve. Betray Haiti. Betray homosexuals (and alienate the military!), betray Christians & burn their children, betray peace-lovers--bomb Iraq _again_! (we'll think of some lame excuse); betray women--transform them into their own oppressors. As for the poor, I have a great plan, Bill:--you will fund poverty programs by _taxing food stamps_. Hilarious, eh? Environmentalists? Talk green, dump chemicals in the wetlands. We will spread rumors about your use of 'pot,' Bill, so all the drug-fiends will vote for you--then we'll _intensify_ the 'War on Drugs.' You see? Beautiful concept, _nein_? In four years they will _beg_ us to return to power. The 'Liberals' themselves will vote for Quayle & Noriega in '96! Ha ha ha! Und zen, ve shall enchoy anuzzer tvelf years of Undiluted Power! Perhaps a war in Mexico? Hmm, let me think. Here, Bill, here's a million dollars for your 'election' campaign fund--that's just for starters, Bill. Now, sit here on this throne while this naked starlet sucks your crank, Bill. Promise them anything! I know! I've got it! Promise them _health-care_. Outlaw all herbs, vitamins, everything like that--we can't allow the unwashed swine to prescribe for themselves, can we now? Tsk tsk dear me no. Promise them health-care--& then raise their taxes! Give them SHIT, Bill. Eh? How do you like it? That wife of yours (sorry, Bill)--she can pose as an angel of mercy ... while you--tinpot JFK--pure simulation--first 'virtual' president--bumble toward Armageddon like some sinister clown. Power--the great aphrodisiac, eh Governor? Or should I say ... _Mr. President_???"

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Re: The Value of Money
by f_griffith＠ccsvax.sfasu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>Unless of course you have a $ bill that is a specie note. I have a few ten >>dollar bills that state that they are redeemable for specie. > >You'll have much better luck taking them to a numismatist than to Fort >Knox. Specie notes are, to the best of my knowledge, no longer redeemable >in specie. > >-- >Lefty (lefty(a)apple.com) >C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:. Right! All redemption promises were repudiated. Gold in 1933, silver somewhat later.

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Re: Anonymous phone calls...
by SGT=DARREN=S.=HARLOW%ISB%MCTSSA＠nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One of the problems of using the pre-paid cards was brought to light recently in the Olympic incident of Harding/Kerrigan. Harding's husband bought one of the cards to make phone calls and they traced the calls back to him via the card, since you have to present valid ID to purchase those. Sgt Darren Harlow - Computer Security MCTSSA, Camp Pendleton, USMC Internet: harlowd(a)nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil or another less reliable & slower: harlow(a)mqg1.usmc.mil Voice: Comm: (619) 725-2970 DSN (Autovon): 365-2970 Fax: Comm: (619) 725-9512 DSN (Autovon): 365-9512 PGP Public key available upon request "The views expressed are my own, and always will be..."

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Re: Keyserver service outRAGE
by Tom Allard 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- gtoal(a)an-teallach.com (Graham Toal) sez: [...] > The restriction on what new keys they accept was part of the deal, but > stop and think what it really means - is it going to affect *anybody*? Yes, it will effect those not in the U.S. Or did you forget about them? > And what's to stop you fetching 2.5 and loading/re-dumping your old > key from that version? ITAR. [...] rgds-- TA (tallard(a)frb.gov) I don't speak for the Federal Reserve Board, they don't speak for me. pgp fingerprint: 10 49 F5 24 F1 D9 A7 D6 DE 14 25 C8 C0 E2 57 9D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLcjYyKAudFplx0TNAQH+cgP9EG7/jn0XdD1ZmCZTK4mk+VEjie13LXwH V927mWRLLgSu11Tj+6SsdNg9g9R2xIpXt47mMGetr3n6A6hB35UshaGAxyMPNI4V bBetgRTZUx2wzKbd2V3Gyi8hxw6Kf64FuCZnUZNe5Ds6Jg2w8Do8a4AYCbV5Ua/M 1s/MtSUY9Dk= =1vax -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Anonymous phone calls...
by autarchist＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>One of the problems of using the pre-paid cards was brought to light >recently in the Olympic incident of Harding/Kerrigan. Harding's husband >bought one of the cards to make phone calls and they traced the calls back to >him via the card, since you have to present valid ID to purchase those. I have bought these cards without having to present any kind of ID. Most truck stops sell them (at least in the southeast). However, there could be other ways for them to figure out who you are, such as interrogating all the people whom you used the card to call.

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MIT PGP Announcement
by Brian A. LaMacchia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

MIT has just officially announced the upcoming availability of PGP 2.5. The announcement was just made at Networld+Interop '94 in Las Vegas by Jeff Schiller, MIT's Network Manager. The text of the actual announcement is available via WWW at http://www.media.org/. Look under "MIT PGP Security Announcement."

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Re: Valid MacPGP??
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:58 PM 05/04/94 -0400, Black Unicorn wrote: >Mr. Hawk: > >Which version do you have? > >Mr. Frissell: > >The most recent version is MacPGP2.3.hqx.cpt > >Do NOT distribute MacPGP2.3 V1.1 as the source code is not "out there." > >I will be happy to send you a copy if you like. > >-uni- (Dark) If it is an annoyance, ignore this message, but could you mail me a copy? I have ver. 2.2 and no ftp, and ftpmail won't send to my site a good 3/4 of the time (and the sysadmins here don't think this is a problem...) thanks- -j

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Re: Valid MacPGP??
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry to everyone on the list about that last message from me. Teach me to watch the headers closer... -j

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