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Re: Netscape sub rosa?
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:30 AM 9/20/95 -0700, you wrote: > >Gee, where's that "Cypherpunks logo" when you really need it? > >A rose covering the Netscape "N" logo? A crypto eagle swooping down and >pecking at weak keys? > >Netscape sub rosa? Or a big burning Netscape logo? Or an NSA agent licking the hot end of an electrical power cord for a Cray? Or a picture of a lock with a big bullet hole through it? Oh no! Not the "Logo Wars(tm)" again! | Visualize whirled keys | alano(a)teleport.com | |"It's only half a keyserver. I had to split the | Disclaimer: | |other half with the government man." - Black Art | Ignore the man | | -- PGP 2.6.2 key available on request -- | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano | <fnord> |

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17 Dec '03

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A message from Joe Six-Pack
by m5＠dev.tivoli.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, the original sender of this is actually anything but "Joe Six-Pack"; his taste in beer is well-developed, and he's no moron. This is, however, an interesting take on the Netscape thing from a non-cypherpunk. He came across the Community ConneXion press release and responded: ------- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) ------- From: XXXXX Subject: Re: Fwd: HackNetscape promotion (fwd) >For Immediate Release >Contact: sameer(a)c2.org 510-601-9777 > >COMMUNITY CONNEXION OFFERS REWARD FOR EXPOSING ENCRYPTION FLAWS > >Sept 19 1995 - Community ConneXion ... Am I the only one who finds this silly? All this fuss about credit card encryption is such BS. My totally unencrypted credit card number is in the hands of brain-dead minimum-wage waitrons and green-haired retail clerks dozens of times a week with no encryption. Gas station attendants, restaurant clerks, supermarkets and banks have the number, and an unscrupulous type could use it and hose me at any time. I've had credit cards for 15 years and nothing like that has ever happened. If it does, I'm out $50 and a bunch of pain in the butt phone calls. So the thought of some geek with a LAN sniffer and too much time on his hands sucking simply encrypted numbers off the internet does not exactly make my heart go pitter-pat. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Nobody's going to listen to you if you just | Mike McNally (m5(a)tivoli.com) | | stand there and flap your arms like a fish. | Tivoli Systems, Austin TX | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Linking = Showing = Transferring?
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:18 PM 9/20/95 +0200, you wrote: >> Browser in the US, text in US, crypto gif imported from UK, both legal. >> >> Browser outside US, text in US, crypto gif imported from UK, both legal. >> >> See a flaw in that? > >Not directly, but... what if for some strange reason the image is routed >through US gateways on its way from the UK to, for example, Germany? >I mean, The Net (tm) is a strange beast, and you can rarely tell which way >the message flows... you can't even DO anything about it. It can get pretty weird. A friend did a traceroute on a site across town. It was relayed half-way across the world to get there. (Through Poland or some such absurdity.) It seems that no matter what you do, you are breaking the law... | Minister of Forced Caffinization in the DNRC | alano(a)teleport.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmerman unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | | -- PGP 2.6.2 key available on request -- | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano | <fnord> |

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MacRandoms
by W. Kinney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've uploaded the cryptographic random number code for the Mac to ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/randomness/MacRandoms.sea.hqx This file contains Colin Plumb's randpool code, my Macintosh wrapper for it, and a nice 68K assembler implementation of MD5. Enjoy. (Sorry if this has gotten posted twice, but my original post seems to have disappeared.) -- Will

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Netscape closes up 1 3/8 today!
by carolann＠censored.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lookit that! 416 trades and 11 times there was more buying pressure than selling pressure.. The rumors of bug fix are outweighing the facts of the crack! I am totally amazed! But think company insiders are probably supporting the stock. Holding up better than ascii armor, it is. NSCP is currently trading at $54 3/4 Symbol : NSCP Exchange : NASDAQ Description : NETSCAPE COMMUNICATIONS CORP COM Last Traded at: 54 3/4 Date/Time : Sep 20 4:01 $ Change : 1 3/8 % Change : 2.576113 Bid : 54 3/4 Ask : 55 1/4 Volume : 310500 # of Trades : 416 Opening Price : 53 1/2 Last Shares : 8 Day Low : 53 1/4 Day High : 55 1/4 52 Week Low : 45 3/4 52 Week High: 74 3/4 -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

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cypherpunks press releases/contact list: YES!! DO IT!!
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm going to argue against TCM and others who are opposed to a "cypherpunk press release" because this is not an "organized group". a press release mechanism is one way by which the organization of this group can be increased. and I'm going to say something heretical in cypherpunk circles, but imho, ORGANIZATION == POWER. this is a basic rule of life that all the rabid libertarians and cryptoanarchist loners here hate to admit, but it's really true and inescapable. anyone who wants to issue press releases for the "cypherpunks", I say, GO FOR IT. don't let someone discourage this because this is an "anarchy". that's actually an excellent reason for you to JUST DO IT!! some will be willing to have their names on the list, and they will email you. others will flame you and not want their name included. simply ignore the later category!! the cypherpunk logo is not copyrighted. no one has any say on who or what a "cypherpunk" is. so, let someone pick a reality and let it prosper or wilt by assent and "voting with the feet". just be careful not to misrepresent anyone. start a list, just like anyone can start a FAQ. a list of names to contact and their specialties would be *excellent* for this purpose. occasional press reports on what is happening on list traffic would be very useful, too. look, there are some very tangible and definite ways to advance the cypherpunk agenda. there are many here who like to play in the dark and shadows and not make any noise. that's fine!! but don't expect everyone to share your disinterest in publicity or organization. if this is in fact an anarchy, why are you discouraging anyone from pursing that which interests them?? IMHO playing in the dark, not trying to appeal to the widespread masses through the media and everything else at hand, is just the NSA's way of trying to manupulate reality through "back door" approaches. I again suggest that a simple list of poeople here who are willing to talk to the press, organized under their expertise/speciality, is an *excellent* idea that is an idea whose time has come. this is such a great idea that *I* may do it if nobody does it after a week or two. --Vlad Nuri

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French Navy Security Compromised (Current by Shallow)
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Heard that a very large break from computer 'hackers' has taken place in France's navy. Information regarding ship-identification was stolen. ------------------------- Regards, Joseph M. Reagle Jr. http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu 0C 69 D4 E8 F2 70 24 33 B4 5E 5E EC 35 E6 FB 88

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17 Dec '03

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netscpe will release code?
by sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just spoke with a reporter from the sfchronicle who told me that when she talked to Netscape they said that they would be releasing parts of their source code to the net. -- sameer Voice: 510-601-9777 Community ConneXion FAX: 510-601-9734 An Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 http://www.c2.org (or login as "guest") sameer(a)c2.org

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